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A66525 Infant=baptism asserted & vindicated by Scripture and antiquity in answer to a treatise of baptism lately published by Mr. Henry Danvers : together with a full detection of his misrepresentations of divers councils and authors both ancient and modern : with a just censur of his essay to palliate the horrid actings of the anabaptists in Germany : as also a perswasive to unity among all Christians, though of different judgments about baptism / by Obed Wills ... Wills, Obed. 1674 (1674) Wing W2867; ESTC R31819 255,968 543

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save_v and_o consequent_o our_o child_n can_v be_v save_v because_o they_o can_v believe_v the_o same_o condition_n be_v require_v to_o precede_v baptism_n that_o be_v require_v to_o precede_v salvation_n you_o see_v whether_o the_o argument_n may_v be_v carry_v and_o what_o little_a ground_n of_o comfort_n such_o doctrine_n afford_v in_o the_o death_n of_o our_o child_n to_o conclude_v then_o whereas_o they_o argue_v from_o this_o place_n of_o mark_n we_o must_v believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v but_o infant_n can_v believe_v therefore_o may_v not_o be_v baptise_a will_v it_o not_o as_o direct_o follow_v that_o since_o they_o can_v believe_v they_o must_v be_v damn_v let_v they_o frame_v a_o answer_n to_o the_o one_o and_o then_o they_o have_v answer_v both_o for_o look_v say_v mr._n martial_n by_o what_o distinction_n they_o will_v maintain_v the_o salvation_n of_o infant_n against_o this_o argument_n by_o the_o same_o will_v i_o more_o clear_o justify_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n against_o this_o argument_n have_v thus_o clear_v the_o text_n from_o the_o false_a gloss_n antipaedobaptist_n put_v upon_o they_o we_o shall_v next_o examine_v the_o passage_n out_o of_o author_n which_o my_o antagonist_n quote_v for_o his_o opinion_n the_o first_o he_o bring_v be_v mr._n baxter_n who_o have_v so_o notable_o wound_v their_o cause_n in_o his_o plain_a scripture_n proof_n for_o infant_n church-membership_n and_o baptism_n be_v become_v the_o man_n of_o their_o indignation_n and_o indeed_o i_o fear_v the_o author_n with_o who_o i_o have_v to_o do_v be_v possess_v with_o a_o malevolent_a spirit_n against_o that_o learned_a and_o godly_a divine_a and_o be_v glad_a of_o any_o occasion_n to_o wound_v his_o reputation_n as_o appear_v by_o his_o deal_n with_o he_o in_o his_o preface_n and_o divers_a other_o place_n in_o the_o treatise_n mr._n baxter_n say_v he_o do_v full_o acknowledge_v in_o his_o book_n call_v the_o second_o disputation_n of_o right_a to_o sacrament_n pag._n 149_o 150._o where_o he_o say_v this_o speak_v of_o the_o commission_n of_o christ_n to_o his_o disciple_n be_v not_o like_o some_o occasional_a mention_v of_o baptism_n but_o it_o be_v the_o very_a commission_n itself_o of_o christ_n to_o his_o disciple_n and_o purposely_o express_v their_o several_a work_n in_o their_o several_a place_n and_o order_n their_o first_o task_n be_v to_o make_v disciple_n which_o be_v by_o mark_n call_v believer_n the_o second_o work_n be_v to_o baptize_v they_o whereto_o be_v annex_v the_o promise_n of_o their_o salvation_n the_o three_o work_n be_v to_o teach_v they_o all_o other_o thing_n which_o be_v after_o to_o be_v learned_a in_o the_o school_n of_o christ_n to_o contemn_v this_o order_n say_v he_o be_v to_o contemn_v all_o rule_n of_o order_n for_o where_o can_v we_o expect_v to_o find_v it_o if_o not_o here_o i_o profess_v my_o conscience_n be_v full_o satisfy_v that_o the_o minister_n must_v expect_v a_o profession_n of_o faith_n before_o baptism_n to_o discover_v the_o craft_n and_o sinister_a deal_n of_o our_o opponent_n i_o must_v first_o acquaint_v the_o reader_n that_o mr._n baxter_n dispute_v with_o mr._n blake_n who_o be_v for_o a_o large_a admission_n to_o the_o sacrament_n explain_v the_o thesis_n in_o his_o second_o disputation_n thus_o viz._n that_o minister_n must_v not_o baptise_v the_o child_n of_o those_o that_o profess_v not_o save_v faith_n upon_o profession_n of_o any_o faith_n that_o be_v short_a of_o it_o these_o be_v his_o very_a word_n pag._n 53._o and_o after_o it_o nine_o line_n low_a that_o he_o may_v not_o be_v mistake_v have_v this_o by_o way_n of_o caution_n viz._n that_o he_o will_v have_v the_o reader_n to_o understand_v that_o all_o along_o in_o the_o discourse_n of_o the_o whole_a book_n the_o dispute_n be_v about_o the_o age_a themselves_o whether_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v so_o that_o it_o be_v none_o of_o our_o work_n at_o this_o time_n say_v he_o to_o defend_v the_o subject_n as_o to_o their_o age_n against_o the_o anabaptist_n but_o our_o present_a business_n be_v to_o inquire_v what_o that_o faith_n be_v that_o quallifi_v person_n to_o be_v just_a subject_n of_o baptism_n or_o to_o be_v such_o who_o child_n may_v receive_v it_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o their_o faith_n or_o profession_n disp_n 2._o p._n 4._o moreover_o in_o his_o four_o disputation_n he_o have_v this_o passage_n we_o take_v it_o for_o grant_v that_o the_o right_n of_o infant_n be_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o their_o parent_n faith_n therefore_o we_o manage_v this_o discourse_n with_o respect_n to_o the_o adult_n p._n 351._o what_o can_v any_o man_n in_o the_o world_n say_v more_o to_o prevent_v the_o cavil_n of_o unworthy_a person_n and_o certain_o he_o have_v not_o say_v so_o much_o unless_o he_o have_v know_v how_o our_o opposite_n lie_v at_o the_o catch_n and_o yet_o we_o see_v this_o will_v not_o do_v for_o we_o have_v find_v a_o man_n of_o so_o much_o dis-ingenuity_n as_o to_o traduce_v and_o pervert_v the_o say_n of_o this_o worthy_a person_n to_o countenance_v his_o error_n i_o have_v be_v the_o large_a in_o set_v down_o mr._n baxters_n word_n that_o it_o may_v leave_v some_o impression_n on_o the_o reader_n memory_n when_o he_o find_v any_o thing_n quote_v out_o of_o mr._n baxters_n disputation_n about_o the_o right_n to_o sacrament_n that_o so_o it_o may_v be_v as_o a_o key_n to_o open_v his_o meaning_n in_o all_o those_o numerous_a passage_n the_o author_n have_v pikt_v up_o out_o of_o that_o dispute_n which_o indeed_o fill_v up_o many_o page_n of_o his_o book_n next_o we_o have_v mr._n calvin_n introduce_v as_o speak_v something_o in_o favour_n of_o their_o opinion_n etc._n ergò_fw-la ut_fw-la se_fw-la ritè_fw-la ad_fw-la baptismum_fw-la offerant_fw-la homines_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la confessio_fw-la ab_fw-la illis_fw-la requiritur_fw-la alioqui_fw-la nihil_fw-la quam_fw-la inane_fw-la esset_fw-la ludicrum_fw-la tota_fw-la actio_fw-la notandum_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-la adultis_fw-la he_o verba_fw-la fieri_fw-la calv._n in_o mat._n 3.6_o verùm_fw-la quia_fw-la docere_fw-la prius_fw-la jubet_fw-la christus_fw-la quam_fw-la baptizare_fw-la &_o tantum_fw-la credentes_fw-la ad_fw-la baptismum_fw-la vult_fw-la recipi_fw-la videtur_fw-la non_fw-la ritè_fw-la administrari_fw-la baptismus_fw-la nisi_fw-la fides_fw-la praecesserit_fw-la etc._n etc._n eos_n qui_fw-la fide_fw-la in_o ecclesiam_fw-la dei_fw-la ingressi_fw-la sunt_fw-la videmus_fw-la cum_fw-la sva_fw-la sobole_fw-la censeri_fw-la in_o christi_fw-la membris_fw-la &_o in_o salutis_fw-la haereditatem_fw-la simul_fw-la vocari_fw-la nec_fw-la modò_fw-la seperatur_fw-la hoc_fw-la modo_fw-la baptismus_fw-la a_o fide_fw-la &_o doctrina_fw-la quia_fw-la licet_fw-la pveri_fw-la infant_n nondum_fw-la per_fw-la aetatem_fw-la fidem_fw-la babent_fw-la deus_fw-la tamen_fw-la eorum_fw-la parent_n compellans_fw-la etc._n etc._n whereas_o few_o ever_o write_v so_o smart_o against_o they_o it_o be_v from_o that_o same_o passage_n of_o he_o on_o mat._n 6._o etc._n etc._n therefore_o that_o man_n may_v right_o offer_v themselves_o to_o baptism_n confession_n of_o sin_n be_v require_v otherwise_o the_o whole_a action_n will_v be_v but_o sport_n the_o word_n indeed_o be_v mr._n calvin_n so_o that_o i_o confess_v my_o antagonist_n speak_v truth_n but_o he_o shall_v have_v do_v well_o to_o have_v speak_v the_o whole_a truth_n for_o mr._n calvin_n also_o cauteous_o add_v it_o be_v to_o be_v note_a that_o these_o word_n be_v speak_v of_o adult_n person_n and_o that_o we_o may_v see_v his_o judgement_n full_o take_v notice_n of_o his_o paraphrase_n upon_o the_o 28._o of_o mat._n 19_o and_o that_o other_o text_n mark_v 16.16_o but_o because_o say_v he_o christ_n command_v we_o to_o teach_v before_o he_o command_v we_o to_o baptise_v and_o he_o will_v have_v believer_n only_o admit_v to_o baptism_n it_o seem_v baptism_n be_v not_o right_o administer_v unless_o faith_n go_v before_o from_o this_o place_n say_v calvin_n the_o anabaptist_n oppose_v infant_n baptism_n to_o which_o he_o present_o answer_v that_o those_o who_o we_o see_v by_o a_o profession_n of_o their_o faith_n to_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n we_o be_v to_o look_v upon_o they_o together_o with_o their_o offspring_n as_o the_o member_n of_o christ_n and_o to_o be_v joint_o call_v to_o the_o inheritance_n of_o the_o saint_n neither_o be_v baptism_n hereby_o separate_v from_o faith_n and_o teach_v because_o though_o child_n have_v not_o yet_o faith_n by_o reason_n of_o their_o age._n nevertheless_o god_n take_v their_o parent_n into_o covenant_n they_o themselves_o be_v also_o to_o be_v embrace_v in_o the_o same_o covenant_n after_o calvin_n comes_fw-la piscator_fw-la to_o as_o little_a purpose_n who_o word_n on_o mark_n 1.4_o be_v these_o it_o be_v call_v the_o baptism_n of_o repentance_n because_o john_n preach_v remission_n of_o sin_n to_o the_o penitent_a believer_n but_o why_o shall_v this_o worthy_a author_n be_v thus_o curtail_v whenas_o he_o far_o express_v himself_o thus_o baptismus_fw-la
will_v amount_v unto_o in_o this_o chapter_n his_o first_o testimony_n be_v from_o luther_n de_fw-fr sacrament_n tom._n 3._o fol._n 168._o where_o he_o say_v luther_n have_v these_o word_n viz._n that_o in_o time_n past_o it_o be_v thus_o that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n be_v administer_v to_o none_o except_o it_o be_v to_o those_o that_o acknowledge_v and_o confess_v their_o faith_n etc._n etc._n the_o which_o when_o i_o read_v i_o be_v not_o well_o assure_v but_o that_o my_o antagonist_n may_v be_v guilty_a of_o forgery_n know_v luther_n to_o be_v a_o most_o fierce_a and_o zealous_a opposer_n of_o their_o way_n wherefore_o i_o do_v very_o careful_o examine_v the_o three_o tome_n of_o luther_n concern_v sacrament_n i_o read_v the_o 168._o pag._n and_o read_v it_o again_o with_o a_o friend_n and_o do_v profess_v that_o there_o be_v not_o one_o syllable_n to_o the_o purpose_n for_o which_o the_o author_n bring_v he_o no_o nor_o in_o any_o page_n thereabouts_o the_o next_o that_o he_o cites_n be_v bullinger_n who_o it_o ●●ns_n have_v such_o word_n as_o these_o in_o his_o house●●k_n 48_o sermon_n baptism_n have_v no_o prescribe_a ●e_n by_o the_o lord_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v leave_v to_o the_o ●_o choice_n of_o the_o faithful_a i_o have_v not_o the_o book_n by_o i_o to_o examine_v the_o ●●th_n of_o this_o but_o however_o i_o be_o certain_a there_o ●othing_v in_o that_o passage_n against_o infant-baptism_n ●hat_n this_o testimony_n can_v do_v we_o no_o hurt_n and_o we_o ●●w_v very_o well_o how_o large_a a_o book_n bullinger_n have_v 〈◊〉_d contra_fw-la anabaptistas_n against_o the_o anabaptist_n ●hat_n i_o wonder_v the_o author_n shall_v bring_v he_o 〈◊〉_d the_o reader_n may_v observe_v how_o zealous_a a_o ●rtor_n of_o infant-baptisme_n this_o learned_a and_o ●●ly_a divine_a be_v by_o that_o one_o passage_n of_o he_o in_o 〈◊〉_d compendium_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n de_fw-fr ●cto_fw-la baptismo_fw-la ac_fw-la the_o ●_z baptizandis_fw-la lib._n 8._o pag._n 〈◊〉_d viz._n debet_fw-la quoniam_fw-la autem_fw-la christianorum_fw-la liberi_fw-la in_fw-la faedere_fw-la dei_fw-la suni_fw-la &_o christus_fw-la etiam_fw-la infantium_fw-la salvator_fw-la est_fw-la cumque_fw-la ad_fw-la ipsos_fw-la pertineat_fw-la ut_fw-la veteris_fw-la ac_fw-la novi_fw-la testamenti_fw-la literae_fw-la testentur-baptismus_a faeperis_fw-la figillum_fw-la iis_fw-la negari_fw-la non_fw-la debet_fw-la that_o because_o the_o ●dren_n of_o believer_n be_v in_o ●●nant_n with_o god_n and_o 〈◊〉_d be_v their_o saviour_n and_o promise_n also_o belong_v to_o 〈◊〉_d as_o both_o the_o old_a and_o 〈◊〉_d testament_n do_v wit●●●●_n baptism_n which_o be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o covenant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v they_o 〈◊〉_d and_o after_o this_o conclude_v horror_n autem_fw-la &_o ●●omnes_n pios_fw-la ac_fw-la verè_fw-la christianos_n ut_fw-la studiose_fw-la ●●terque_fw-la sibi_fw-la a_o contentiosa_fw-la &_o venenata_fw-la ana●●_n arum_fw-la sectâ_fw-la caveant_fw-la quae_fw-la externa_fw-la specie_fw-la qui●●_n &_o hypocrisi_fw-la splendet_fw-la reverà_fw-la autem_fw-la paestilen●●_n est_fw-la haeresis_fw-la atque_fw-la plurimas_fw-la baerese_n quibus_fw-la o●●te_fw-la aliquot_fw-la secula_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la chrsti_fw-la turbata_fw-la &_o lacerata_fw-la fuit_fw-la in_fw-la se_fw-la complectitur_fw-la illisque_fw-la plurimos_fw-la homines_fw-la inficit_fw-la i_o forbear_v to_o english_a it_o out_o of_o respect_n to_o some_o which_o i_o believe_v be_v godly_a and_o yet_o opposite_a to_o the_o baptism_n of_o believer_n child_n last_o the_o author_n quote_v a_o great_a deal_n out_o of_o mr._n baxters_n disputation_n with_o mr._n blake_n about_o right_a to_o the_o sacrament_n but_o we_o have_v before_o spoil_v his_o market_n by_o give_v the_o reader_n a_o key_n out_o of_o the_o same_o book_n by_o which_o he_o may_v understand_v he_o so_o that_o all_o those_o example_n from_o john_n the_o samritan_n the_o eunuch_n paul_n lydia_n the_o jailor_n crispus_n etc._n etc._n do_v but_o mind_n we_o again_o of_o the_o author_n dis-ingenuity_n in_o traduce_v that_o worthy_a divine_a chap._n iu._n wherein_o he_o labour_v to_o prove_v believer_n the_o only_a subject_n of_o baptism_n from_o the_o spiritual_a end_n of_o the_o ordinance_n where_o he_o give_v we_o a_o induction_n of_o the_o particular_a end_n of_o baptism_n as_o follow_v 1._o the_o first_o end_n of_o baptism_n say_v he_o be_v that_o the_o baptise_a might_n have_v that_o represent_v in_o a_o sign_n or_o figure_n and_o preach_v to_o his_o eye_n in_o the_o ordinance_n which_o have_v be_v preach_v to_o his_o ear_n and_o heart_n by_o the_o word_n and_o spirit_n respect_v the_o whole_a mystery_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o his_o duty_n and_o obligation_n therein_o a_o sign_n be_v as_o paraeus_n observe_v some_o outward_a thing_n appear_v to_o the_o sense_n through_o which_o some_o inward_a thing_n be_v at_o the_o same_o time_n apprehend_v by_o the_o understanding_n repl._n i._n i_o deny_v this_o to_o be_v the_o primary_n end_n of_o baptism_n for_o not_o to_o insist_v upon_o that_o which_o have_v give_v too_o great_a advantage_n to_o antipaedobaptist_n that_o the_o first_o end_n of_o baptism_n be_v to_o give_v a_o solemn_a entrance_n or_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n i_o conceive_v it_o to_o be_v more_o true_a to_o affirm_v that_o the_o first_o and_o chief_a end_n of_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v the_o initiatory_a sign_n or_o seal_v of_o god_n covenant_n and_o favour_n to_o we_o in_o christ_n for_o as_o dr._n ames_n observe_v in_o his_o bellarminus_n enervatus_fw-la tom._n 2._o lib._n 2._o unless_o person_n be_v to_o be_v repute_v member_n of_o the_o church_n 48._o nisi_fw-la habendi_fw-la tale_n essent_fw-la viz._n fidelium_fw-la infant_n pro_fw-la membris_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la non_fw-la deberent_fw-la baptizari_fw-la baptismus_fw-la enìm_fw-la suâ_fw-la naturâ_fw-la est_fw-la sigillum_fw-la insitionis_fw-la jam_fw-la factae_fw-la in_o christum_fw-la atque_fw-la adeò_fw-la in_o ecclesiam_fw-la act._n 10.47_o 48._o they_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptise_a for_o baptism_n in_o its_o own_o nature_n be_v the_o seal_n of_o our_o be_v already_o ingraft_v into_o christ_n and_o so_o consequent_o into_o the_o church_n act_v 10.47_o 48._o he_o speak_v concern_v the_o baptism_n of_o the_o child_n of_o believer_n and_o affirm_v they_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptise_a but_o under_o this_o consideration_n that_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o we_o shall_v hereafter_o make_v good_a in_o its_o proper_a place_n 2._o i_o acknowledge_v that_o to_o adult_v person_n baptism_n reprefent_n in_o a_o sign_n that_o to_o the_o eye_n which_o be_v preach_v to_o the_o ear_n respect_v the_o mystery_n of_o the_o gospel_n etc._n etc._n although_o i_o see_v not_o how_o it_o can_v be_v so_o in_o the_o way_n of_o dip_v for_o how_o can_v person_n under_o water_n see_v apprehend_v or_o hear_v any_o thing_n during_o that_o time_n when_o and_o 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appland_v by_o the_o author_n who_o be_v contemporary_a with_o munzer_n be_v one_o balthasar_n huebmer_n a_o dr._n in_o waldshnot_n a_o great_a preacher_n of_o this_o way_n in_o bohemia_n and_o moravia_n who_o be_v take_v prisoner_n with_o his_o wife_n by_o the_o emperor_n command_n who_o be_v himself_o burn_v at_o vienna_n and_o his_o wife_n drown_v for_o heretic_n in_o the_o year_n 1528._o this_o be_v mr._n tomb_n again_o tomb_n mr._n tomb_n examen_fw-la pag._n 23._o but_o because_o we_o have_v such_o a_o ample_a character_n of_o this_o man_n i_o have_v be_v the_o more_o curious_a in_o inquire_v what_o account_n we_o or_o he_o in_o history_n and_o before_o i_o shall_v enter_v upon_o that_o i_o shall_v tell_v thou_o reader_n that_o the_o author_n mind_v i_o with_o what_o i_o late_o meet_v with_o in_o a_o book_n entitle_v plus_fw-la ultra_fw-la be_v a_o examination_n of_o dr._n heylins_n discourse_n of_o the_o reformation_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o examiner_n observe_v 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deceive_v say_v zwinglius_fw-la i_o never_o perceive_v any_o thing_n in_o he_o but_o a_o immoderate_a thirst_n after_o profit_n and_o glory_n mr._n tomb_n conclude_v modest_o and_o say_v only_o this_o i_o leave_v he_o to_o his_o judge_n to_o who_o he_o stand_v or_o fall_v this_o huebmer_n be_v call_v by_o melchior_n adam_n princeps_fw-la catabaptistarum_fw-la the_o chief_a of_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o the_o head_n of_o they_o that_o dispute_v with_o zwinglius_fw-la at_o zurich_n 30._o alpha_n eorum_fw-la fuit_fw-la balthasar_n hubmerus_fw-la apostatà_fw-la iterum_fw-la iterumque_fw-la factus_fw-la qui_fw-la zwinglii_n beneficio_fw-la liberatus_fw-la tantis_fw-la convictis_fw-la utrum_fw-la bene_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la meritum_fw-la onerare_fw-la nebulo_fw-la non_fw-la dubitavit_fw-la ut_fw-la apologiâ_fw-la satisfacere_fw-la fratribus_fw-la habuerit_fw-la necesse_fw-la melch._n adam_n pag._n 30._o and_o he_o tell_v we_o he_o be_v a_o apostate_n several_a time_n who_o be_v free_v out_o 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