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A19178 A reply to Dr. Mortons generall Defence of three nocent [sic] ceremonies viz. the surplice, crosse in baptisme, and kneeling at the receiving of the sacramentall elements of bread and wine. Ames, William, 1576-1633.; Calderwood, David, 1575-1650, attributed name. 1622 (1622) STC 559; ESTC S100126 108,813 126

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