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A39364 Polemica Christiana, or, An earnest contending for the faith which was once deliver'd unto the saints in I. a letter to the author of the Dialogue, &c., II. a vindication of the doctrine of Mr. Richard Hooker, against the mis-representation of an anti-trinitarion, in a pamphlet entitled, Considerations on the explications of the doctrine of the trinity, III. reflections upon some passages in a book entitled, The history of religion, IV. a vindication of Vincentius Lirinensis, from the unjust reproach cast on him, by an anonymous writer, in a book entitled, Animadversions on Mr. Hill's book / by Edmund Elys ... Elys, Edmund, ca. 1634-ca. 1707. 1696 (1696) Wing E685; ESTC R41121 13,781 30

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Elder Brother by the same Venter to the Duke of Buckingham had been brought into the High Commission Anno 1627. for Living openly in Adultery with Sir John Howard one of the Younger Sons of Thomas the First Earl of Suffolk of that Family Sentenc'd among other things to do Penance at St. Paul's Cross she escap'd her Keepers took Sanctuary in the Savoy and was from thence convey'd away by the French Ambassador The Duke being dead all further Prosecution against her dyed also with him which notwithstanding the Proud Woman being more terrified with the fear of the the Shame than the sence of the Sin vented her malice and displeasure against the Arch-Bishop who had been very severe against her at the time of her Tryal when he was come unto his Greatness spending her Tongue upon him in words so full of deep Disgrace and Reproach unto him that he could do no less than cause her to be laid in the Gate-House But being not long after deliver'd thence by the Practice of Howard aforemention'd Howard was seiz'd upon and laid up in her Place which Punishment tho' it was the least that could be lookt for he so highly Stomach'd that as soon as the Arch-Bishop was Impeach'd by the House of Commons and committed to Custody by the Lords which happened on Friday Decemb. 18. 1640. he Petition'd for Relief against the Arch-Bishop and some others of the high Commissioners by whom the Warrant had been sign'd The Lords upon the reading of it impos'd a Fine of 500 l. on the Arch-Bishop and 250 a piece upon Lamb and Duck and prest it with such cruel Rigour that they forced him to sell his Plate to make Payment of it the Fine being set on Monday 21 of December and Order'd to be paid on Wednesday after Let any sincere Christian in any Part of the World that has ever heard this Story be Judge whether this most Reverend Prelate were not Persecuted for Righteousness sake Most certainly the Wrath of God shall Burn throughout all Generations against the Posterity of his Persecutors if they Approve the MURTHER which their Fore-fathers Committed and against all others who shall ever undertake to Vindicate that Diabolical false Pretence of Justice I pray God that all the Enemies of Truth and Goodness particularly the Anti-Trinitarians may know and feel the Power and Efficacy of these sacred words Matth. 21. 44. Whosoever shall fall on this STONE shall be broken but on whomsoever it shall fall it will Grind him to Powder A VINDICATION OF VINCENTIUS LIRINENSIS c. I Am so sensible of the Orthodoxy of Vincentius Lirinensis in Matters of the greatest Importance to all Mankind that I think it my Duty to Exhort all Young Students in Divinity to the diligent Perusal of that Excellent Book Entitled Vincentii Lirinensis Commonitorium And to declare to all the World my Abhorrency of the unjust Reproach that an Anonymous Writer hath endeavour'd to fix upon this most Zealous Assertor of the Doctrine of the H. B. and Glorious Trinity even in these Days in which we have Heard even from those Men who wou'd retain the Name of Christians such horrid Blasphemies and open Detestations of The Onely True God in whose NAME we are Baptized The Father The Son and The Holy Ghost Animadversions c. pag. 61. Mr. Hill makes a strange use of the Maxim of Vincentius Lirinensis Quod ubique quod semper quod ad omnibus c. That Priest was a Semipilagian that is he thought that a Man could Believe by his own strength and that afterward God gave him Grace to execute his Good and Pious Resolutions He introduced this Maxim meerly in opposition to St. Augustine c. Answ Vincentius Lirinensis was so far from being tainted with the Pelagian Heresy that he Condemn'd Pelagius as a most detestable Heretick or Wrester of the Holy Scriptures as he did Arius Macedonius Nestorius c. He shews us the best way that can ever be to preserve our Souls by the Grace of God from the Contagion of any Heresy whatsoever Sive ego says he sive quis alius vellet exurgentium Haereticorum fraudes deprehendere laqueosque vitare in Fide sana sanus atque integer permanere duplici modo munire Fidem suam Domino adjuvante deberet Primo scilicet Divinae Legis Auctoritate tum deinde Ecclesiae Catholicae Traditione Hic forsitan requirat aliquis Cum sit Perfectus Scripturarum Canon sibique ad omnia satis superque sufficiat quid opus est ut ei Ecclesiasticae Intelligentiae jungatur Auctoritas Quia scilicet Scripturam Sacram pro ipsa sua altitudine non uno eodemque sensu universi accipiunt sed ejusdem eloquia aliter atque aliter alius atque alius interpretatur c. 'T is Evident that by Divina Lex he understands the Holy Scriptures By making the Tradition of the Church subordinate to the Holy Scriptures he plainly Declares that ever since the New Testament was Written it has been the Duty of all Ministers of the Gospel to Confirm or Prove the Truth of their Oral Discourses by shewing their Conformity to the Writings of the holy Apostles 'T is Evident that by the Tradition of the Church we are to understand a Summary or Breviary of the Fundamental Points or Articles of the Christian Religion which the Holy APOSTLES and Their SUCCESSORS throughout all Ages have Delivered to the World by word of Mouth in their Preaching and Catechizing Injoyning all Christians in all Parts of the Earth to ponder them in their Hearts and to be always mindful of them This Summary or Breviary of the Prime Articles of the Christian Religion is contain'd in that Form of sound Words which we call the Apostles Creed And this is that TRADITION or FAITH once DELIVER'D to the Saints which St. Irenaeus speaks so much of which I doubt not but all Learned Men will acknowledge when they shall duly consider those words of that Blessed Saint which I shall here recite D. Irenaei adversus Haereses Lib. 1. Cap. 2. Ecclesia quanquam per universum orbem terrarum usque ad fines terrae dispersa ab Apostolis eorum Discipulis Fidem accepit quae est in unum Deum Omnipotentem qui fecit coelum terram maria omnia quae in eis sunt Et in unum Christum Jesum Filium Dei incarnatum pro nostra salute Et in Spiritum Sanctum qui per Prophetas Praedicavit Dispensationis mysteria adventus ex Virgine nativitatem passionem resurrectionem ex mortuis in Carne ad coelos assumptionem dilecti Christi Jesu Domini nostri ipsius ex coelis in gloria Patris adventum ad instauranda omnia excitandam omnem totius humani generis carnem cui Christo Jesu Domino nostro Deo Salvatori Regi juxta voluntatem Patris invisibilis omne genu flectatur coelestium terrestrium infernorum omnis lingua confiteatur
POLEMICA CHRISTIANA OR AN Earnest Contending For the FAITH Which was once deliver'd unto the SAINTS IN I. A Letter to the Author of the DIALOGUE c. II. A Vindication of the Doctrine of Mr. RICHARD HOOKER against the Mis-representation of an Anti-Trinitarian in a Pamphlet Entitled Considerations on the Explications of the Doctrine of the Trinity III. Reflections upon some Passages in a Book Entitled The History of Religion IV. A Vindication of VINCENTIVS LIRINENSIS from the unjust Reproach cast on him by an Anonymous Writer in a Book Entitled Animadversions on Mr. HILL's Book By EDMUND ELYS sometime Fellow of Baliol Colledge in OXFORD Magna est VERITAS Praevalebit Printed in the Year 1696. TO The AUTHOR of the Dialogue c. SIR I Entreat You by the Common Principles of Humanity that You would seriously Peruse what I have here written Considering that within a short Time both You and I shall be Call'd out of this World to give Account of all our Doings to the Maker of all Things and Judge of all Men. Since you Profess you believe all the Sayings of our Blessed Saviour I pray consider these sacred Words Mat. 5. 8. Blessed are the pure in Heart for they shall see GOD. I suppose You will not Deny but that Purity of Heart consists in the True Love of God and our Neighbour It seems to me that you are Guilty of great Irreverence towards the Divine Majesty in that You throw out such Words as these at every Turn Good God! But Good God then c. Bless me again and again You shew your self to be most Barbarously Vncharitable in Reviling Priests of all sorts In plain Terms say you the Priests of all sorts hope insensibly to raise themselves a Dominion over us The Priests of all Ages have rather strove as a Faction of Men to raise themselves Great than to seek through Self-denial and Humility for the truly Glorious and Incorruptible Crown Answ Those Holy Men in the Four First General Councils the Arians themselves speak well of the Priests in Former Ages were such Glorious Examples of True Vertue and Godliness that whosoever is throughly acquainted with Church-History and has read the Writings of the Ancient Fathers that Assented to the Doctrines Explicated and Defended in those Councils he cannot but Reflect upon the Reproach you cast upon the Priests of all Ages with the greatest Abhorrency and Detestation This Black Turbulency of Spirit is not like to compose a Clear Confutation of any Error nor can it consist with a clear Speculation of any Sanctifying Truth But I must confess It is very suitable to your impious Boasting in calling what you write in your Second Sheet A clear Confutation of the Trinity Before we Reflect upon your Argumentations here which can hardly be found in the Croud of such a Multitude of Invectives and Vain Boastings we shall consider some Passages in your Dialogue Quest Are there no Texts in the Gospel where Christ himself Preacht up the Father to be the One and only God exclusive of all others as well as of himself Pray repeat them if there be Answ Mark 12. 29 c. And Jesus answered him the First of all the Commandments is Hear O Israel the Lord thy God is one Lord c. These words do no more Exclude our Saviour from being the One God than from being the One Lord Neither does his being the One Lord Exclude the Father from being the One Lord. But say you in your Clear Confutation To say of Three Persons each severally God that they are One God is as much a Contradiction as to say Three Men are One. Answ This Saying of yours is as manifestly False as it is to say There is no difference between an Infinite and a Finite Nature or Essence I shall here recite some of the words of my brief Animadversion on The Naked Gospel Is there any thing more Reasonable than to conceive that in God the One Infinite Essence there may be a Certain Trinity which cannot in any wise appertain to any Three Persons of a Finite Nature Can there ever be a more Impious Absurdity than this to Deny the Truth of that which the Almighty and Incomprehensible GOD Father Son and Holy Ghost in whose Name we are BAPTIZED has Reveal'd unto us concerning Himself because we cannot find any thing like it even amongst the Best of his Creatures To say that we ought not to Believe any thing but what our Reason can Fathom or Comprehend is in effect to say We ought not to Believe there is a GOD it being Essential to the Deity to Be infinitely beyond the Comprehension of our Reason In your Dialogue you say that our Saviour is called Alpha and Omega Rev. 1. 8. in Opposition to I AM in God for pure and simple Being I Beseech You as you believe there is a God and that these words which you recite were written by Divine Inspiration consider what I say Alpha and Omega the FIRST and the LAST is that which is beyond al● Bounds Absolutely Infinite The One Pure and Simple Being 'T is manifest therefore that the WORD which from Everlasting was God which is Alpha and Omega the FIRST and the LAST has the same Eternal Essence with God the Father Quest But pray what Authority have you to call the Son a God-Angel as you do You us'd to say That there is a Text where the Son as God is said to have the Angels for his Fellows if there be such pray let us see it to satisfy us in what you do Answ Heb. 1. 4. Being made so much better than the Angels as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent Name than they 5 For unto which of the Angels said he at any time Thou art my Son this day have I begotten thee And again I will be to him a Father and he shall be to me a Son 6 And again when he bringeth in the first-begotten into the world he faith And let all the angels of God worship him 7 And of the angels he saith Who maketh his angels spirits and his ministers a flame of fire 8 But unto the Son he saith Thy throne O God is for ever and ever a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom 9 Thou hast loved righteousness and hated iniquity therefore God even thy God hath anointed thee with the oyl of gladness above thy Fellows Answ 'T is Evident that by Fellows we are not to understand ANGELS but MEN For verily he took not on him the nature of Angels but he took on him the seed of Abraham Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his Brethren that he might be a merciful and faithful High-Priest in things pertaining to God to make reconciliation for the sins of the People Heb. 2. 16 17. I desire any Man that understands the Greek Tongue to compare these words Heb. 1. 8. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 with those Heb. 2. 14.
hath his Substance or Essence of or from the Father he would seem to Obviate this Answer in these words They will say Mr. Hooker doth not affirm that the self-same Substance is Begotten and Unbegotten this indeed were a slat Contradiction But he saith That as 't is in the Father 't is Unbegotten as in the Son 't is Begotten Answ This is a most notorious Falshood Mr. Hooker does not assert That the Essence as in the Son is Begotten but that the Person of the Son is Begotten in that he hath his Essence of or from the Father Let us now consider what a Fast Friend this Disputer is to the Phanaticks i. e. The Despisers of the Liturgy of the Church of England which Mr. Hooker has so judiciously and irrefragably Defended What shall we do here says He shall we say Reverend Hooker has mistaken and mis-led his Sons who are all the Church of England into an Error concerning the Trinity Hath he ascrib'd to the Divine Essence Properties which he calleth Persons that are not in it To give up Hooker is to dishonour the Church of England it self to part with Father Hooker is to endangerthe very Surplice and even the Cross in Baptism nay that Book of Books the Common-Prayer If Mr. Hooker could Err about the Trinity what will the Phanaticks and Trimmers say Will not they be apt to pretend too He may have Erred in his profound Dissertations and Discourses for the Rites and Discipline of the Church Now I appeal to any Person of common Ingenuity in the whole World to Judge whether I had not Just Cause to Publish that Paper Entitled An earnest Call to those Non-conformists who really Believe the Doctrine of the Holy Blessed and Glorious Trinity To come into the Communion of the Church of England That by their Constant Regular Confession of the Christian Faith they may Confound the Devices of those Gain-sayers whom by their Separation they have so much Encourag'd I cannot imagine how 't is possible that any Nonconformist that has the least Spark of Grace that has in any measure the true Love of the Holy JESVS in his Heart should not be Inclin'd to the Communion of the Church of England upon the reading of these words of the most Judicious and Heavenly-minded Mr. R. Hooker in the Fifth Book of Ecclesiastical Polity The very Creed of Athanasius and that sacred Hymn of Glory the Gloria Patri than which nothing doth sound more Heavenly in the Ears of Faithful Men are now reckoned as superfluities which we must in any case pare away lest we cloy God with too much Service Is there in that Confession of Faith any thing which doth not at all times edify and instruct the attentive Reader Or is our Faith in the Blessed Trinity a matter needless to be so oftentimes mention'd and open'd in the principal Part of that Duty which we owe to God our Publick Prayer Hath the Church of Christ from the first beginning by a secret universal instinct of God's good Spirit always tied it self to end neither Sermon nor almost any Speech which hath concern'd matters of God without some special words of Honour and Glory to that Trinity which we all adore and is the like Conclusion of Psalms become now at the length an Eye-sore or a Gauling to their Ears that hear it Against which Poison Arianism if we think that the Church at this Day needeth not those ancient Preservatives which Ages before us were so glad to use we deceive our selves greatly The Weeds of Heresy being grown to such Ripeness as that was do even in the cutting down scatter oftentimes those Seeds which for a while lay unseen and buried in the Earth but afterwards freshly spring up again no less Pervicacious than at the first I shall not at this time recite any more of the words of this most Pious and Learned Man but only these with which I find my own Heart most Zealously affected Wisdom to the End she might save many built her House of that Nature which is common unto all she made not this or that Man her Habitation but dwelt in Vs The Good Lord give Grace to Thee and Me Dear Reader to Hold the Mystery of this Faith in a Pure Conscience Amen Reflections UPON Some Passages in a Book ENTITLED The History of RELIGION IT is to me most Evident and unquestionable that this Gentleman's Design is this in the Crowd of his Invectives against what he calls Priest-Craft of Heathens and Papists closely and subtlely to Convey into the mind of the Reader a Contempt of the Authority of the Church of England in Enjoyning all those that will be of her Communion to make Profession of Believing the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity exprest in those Forms of sound words which we commonly call the Creed of St. Athanasius and the Nicene Creed He tells us plainly p. 85. that The Council of NICE it self shew'd a Spirit of Contention rather than of Peace and Charity Truly this Man shews himself to be a Person of very ill Quality in using such vile Artifices to Delude the Reader as to endeavour to make him Conceit that St. Hilary and St. Gregory Nazianzen did not approve that most Orthodox Council Having thus Revil'd those most Orthodox Fathers of the Council of NICE affirming that they were led by a Spirit of Contention Hilary says he Bishop of Poictiers describes this saying we Decree every Year of the Lord a New Creed concerning God nay every Change of the Moon our Faith is alter'd c. Answ 'T is evident to every Man that knows any thing of Ecclesiastical History that St. Hilary speaks against those Creeds that were made in Opposition to the Council of NICE and that he would not allow the Arians to have the Name of Christians CHRISTIANUS sum says he non ARIANUS Lib. ad Constantinum Augustum Those other words of his which I shall here recite will most certainly put this Gentleman to a Blush if it be possible for him to Blush at any thing Deus Alius quam qui est Ex Deo Nullus est Hoc fidei nostrae secundum Evangelicam Apostolicam Doctrinam Principale Dominum Nostrum Jesum Christum Jesum Christum Deum Dei Filium a Patre nec Honoris Confessione nec Virtutis Potestate nec Substantiae Diversitate nec Intervallo Temporis separari Gregory Nazianzen says this Gentleman was so full of Detestation at these Quarrels of Christians that at last he resolv'd never more to come into an Assembly of Bishops because saith he I have never seen a good and happy End of any Council Answ Whatever St. Gregory Nazianzen said of any other Councils most certainly no Man ever had a greater Esteem of the Orthodoxy of the Council of NICE than this Blessed man abundantly declares in his Writings particularly in his most admirable Oration In Laudem Magni Athanasii Our Historian is not asham'd to own as great a Respect for