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A17914 A stay against straying. Or An answer to a treatise intituled: The lavvfulnes of hearing the ministers of the Church of England. By John Robinson. Wherein is proved the contrarie, viz: The unlawfulnes of hearing the ministers of all false Churches. By John Canne. Canne, John, d. 1667? 1639 (1639) STC 4575; ESTC S115149 141,377 156

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