and_o gravity_n that_o the_o order_n which_o the_o apostle_n there_o use_v be_v still_o to_o be_v observe_v m._n bucer_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n in_o the._n 1._o book_n and._n 9_o chap._n say_v that_o s._n paul_n accuse_v the_o corinthian_n for_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n do_v not_o cast_v out_o of_o their_o company_n the_o incestuous_a person_n 6._o that_o chauncelors_n commissary_n official_n etc_n etc_n usurp_v authority_n in_o the_o church_n which_o belong_v not_o to_o they_o m._n caluin_n in_o his_o institution_n 4._o book_n 11._o chap._n 7._o sect_n speak_v against_o the_o office_n of_o official_n and_o allege_v diverse_a reason_n against_o they_o as_z that_o they_o exercise_v that_o part_n of_o the_o bishop_n charge_v and_o that_o they_o handle_v matter_n which_o pertain_v not_o to_o the_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n m._n beza_n in_o his_o book_n of_o divorce_n prove_v that_o the_o judicial_a decide_n of_o matrimonyall_n cause_n appertain_v unto_o the_o civil_a 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bucer_n upon_o the._n 5._o of_o matthew_n say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o man_n so_o wise_a &_o holy_a which_o be_v able_a to_o exercise_v both_o the_o civil_a &_o the_o ecclesiastical_a power_n and_o that_o therefore_o he_o which_o will_v exercise_v the_o one_o must_v leave_v the_o other_o 8._o that_o the_o sacrament_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v private_o administer_v nor_o by_o woman_n the_o foresaid_a confession_n c_o 20._o hold_v that_o baptism_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v minister_v by_o woman_n or_o midwives_n to_o the_o which_o also_o may_v be_v join_v the_o liturgy_n of_o the_o english_a church_n at_o geneva_n which_o condemn_v the_o minister_a of_o either_o of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o private_a house_n or_o by_o woman_n peter_n martyr_n upon_o the._n 11._o chap._n of_o the._n 1._o ep_n to_o the_o corinth_n in_o describe_v the_o corruption_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n note_v this_o to_o be_v one_o that_z the_o church_n do_v not_o communicate_v altogether_o which_o corruption_n as_o it_o be_v in_o divers_a place_n in_o time_n past_o so_o he_o complain_v that_o it_o be_v now_o m._n bucer_n in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n and._n 7._o chap._n prove_v out_o of_o the._n 10._o to_o the_o corinth_n that_o the_o whole_a church_n shall_v receive_v the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n together_o and_o that_o the_o use_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o this_o behalf_n aught_o with_o great_a and_o diligent_a endeavour_n to_o be_v restore_v unto_o the_o church_n &_o that_o it_o be_v a_o contempt_n of_o the_o mystery_n not_o to_o be_v partaker_n when_o they_o be_v call_v m._n beza_n against_o westphalus_n show_v that_o it_o be_v not_o decent_a that_o baptism_n be_v minister_v but_o in_o the_o church_n &_o that_o at_o stand_a hour_n and_o by_o the_o minister_n and_o further_o that_o upon_o no_o necessity_n as_o it_o be_v call_v it_o ought_v to_o be_v minister_v in_o private_a house_n and_o that_o if_o it_o may_v be_v minister_v in_o private_a house_n 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there_o be_v no_o agreement_n between_o christ_n and_o belial_n so_o those_o which_o be_v sincere_a christian_n can_v abide_v nothing_o of_o antichrist_n peter_n martyr_n upon_o the_o .10_o c._n of_o the_o .2_o book_n of_o the_o king_n say_v that_o the_o lutheran_n must_v take_v heed_n least_o while_o they_o cut_v of_o many_o popish_a error_n they_o follow_v jehu_n by_o retain_v also_o many_o popish_a thing_n for_o they_o defend_v still_o the_o real_a presence_n in_o the_o bread_n of_o the_o supper_n and_o image_n and_o vestment_n etc_n etc_n and_o say_v that_o religion_n must_v be_v whole_o reform_v to_o the_o quick_a bullinger_n in_o his_o decade_n 5._o book_n and._n 9_o sermon_n say_v that_o our_o saviour_n christ_n &_o the_o apostle_n use_v their_o accustom_a apparel_n in_o the_o supper_n and_o that_o although_o in_o time_n past_o the_o minister_n put_v on_o a_o kind_n of_o cloak_n upon_o their_o common_a apparel_n yet_o that_o be_v do_v neither_o by_o the_o example_n of_o christ_n nor_o of_o his_o apostle_n but_o by_o the_o tradition_n of_o man_n and_o that_o in_o the_o end_n after_o the_o example_n of_o the_o priest_n apparel_n in_o the_o old_a law_n it_o be_v cast_v upon_o the_o minister_n at_o the_o ministration_n of_o the_o supper_n but_o say_v he_o we_o have_v learn_v long_o ago_o not_o only_o that_o all_o levitical_a ceremony_n be_v abrogate_a but_o also_o that_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v bring_v again_o into_o the_o church_n of_o no_o man_n and_o therefore_o see_v we_o be_v in_o the_o light_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o not_o under_o the_o shadow_n of_o the_o law_n we_o do_v worthy_o reject_v that_o mass_o levitical_a apparel_n gualther_n upon_o the._n 21._o of_o the_o act_n among_o other_o bring_v this_o for_o one_o reason_n to_o improve_v paul_n shave_v of_o his_o head_n for_o that_o the_o gospel_n have_v be_v preach_v twenty_o year_n and_o that_o therefore_o the_o infirmity_n of_o the_o jew_n ought_v not_o to_o have_v be_v bear_v with_o and_o after_o he_o say_v that_o that_o teach_v how_o much_o the_o superstitious_a master_n of_o ceremony_n hurt_v the_o gospel_n which_o nourish_v the_o weakness_n of_o faith_n by_o the_o long_a keep_n of_o ceremony_n and_o by_o their_o long_a bear_n hinder_v the_o do_n of_o those_o minister_n which_o be_v more_o fervent_a finis_fw-la prouer._n 8._o 15._o 2._o chap._n 34._o 60._o chap._n 12._o 3._o deut._n 25._o 2._o samu._n 7._o 2._o psal_n 132._o esra_fw-la 3._o 3._o 10._o agg._n 1._o 14._o 2._o kin_n 22._o 23._o 2._o kin_n 18._o 2._o chr._n 17._o 8_o chap._n 17._o 18_o 1._o cor._n 1._o 27._o 28_o 2._o chro._n 29._o 34_o 2._o chr._n 30._o 17._o 2._o kin._n 5._o 4._o 14_o 1._o sam._n 25._o 18_o 1._o agg._n 234._o 1._o cor._n 3._o 12._o 13_o 2._o cor._n 6._o 15._o cap._n 2._o 42._o 43._o rom._n 12._o 18._o 2._o cor._n 10._o
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censure_n peter_n martyr_n upon_o the_o three_o to_o the_o rom._n teach_v that_o although_o the_o common_a wealth_n change_v her_o government_n yet_o the_o church_n always_o keep_v she_o still_o bucer_n in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n 15._o chapter_n lament_v that_o there_o be_v find_v amongst_o those_o which_o be_v count_v of_o the_o forward_a christian_n which_o will_v not_o have_v the_o same_o discipline_v use_v now_o that_o be_v in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n object_v the_o difference_n of_o time_n and_o of_o man_n 2._o that_o one_o minister_n ought_v not_o to_o have_v any_o dominion_n over_o a_o other_o the_o foresay_a helvetian_a confession_n etc_n etc_n in_o the_o sevententh_fw-mi chapter_n say_v that_o christ_n do_v most_o severe_o prohibit_v unto_o his_o apostle_n &_o their_o successor_n primacy_n &_o domynion_n &_o in_o the_o 18._o chap._n say_v that_o equal_a power_n &_o function_n in_o give_v unto_o all_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o 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election_n of_o minister_n pertain_v not_o to_o one_o man._n the_o foresay_a helvetian_a confession_n etc_n etc_n in_o the._n 18._o chapter_n say_v that_o the_o minister_n ought_v to_o be_v choose_v of_o the_o church_n or_o by_o those_o which_o be_v lawful_o depute_v of_o the_o church_n and_o afterward_o ordain_v with_o public_a prayer_n m._n caluin_n in_o he_o 4._o book_n of_o institution_n 3._o chap._n 15._o section_n show_v that_o the_o church_n do_v choose_v and_o that_o the_o apostle_n do_v monderate_v the_o election_n and_o confute_v they_o which_o upon_o the_o place_n of_o titus_n and_o timothe_n will_v prove_v that_o the_o election_n belong_v to_o one_o man._n 4._o that_o there_o ought_v now_o to_o be_v elder_n to_o govern_v the_o church_n with_o the_o pastor_n and_o deacon_n to_o provide_v for_o the_o poor_a touch_v elder_n the_o judgement_n of_o m._n caluin_n have_v be_v before_o declare_v in_o the_o first_o of_o these_o proposition_n m._n beza_n in_o his_o book_n of_o divorce_n page_n 161._o say_v that_o the_o eldership_n of_o the_o church_n ought_v to_o be_v where_o there_o be_v a_o christian_a magistrate_n touch_v deacon_n m._n caluin_n 4._o book_n 3._o chap._n 9_o section_n after_o that_o he_o have_v describe_v what_o deacon_n the_o church_n have_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n say_v that_o we_o after_o their_o example_n ought_v to_o have_v the_o like_a m._n beza_n in_o the._n 5._o cap._n and._n 23._o section_n of_o his_o confession_n show_v that_o the_o office_n of_o the_o distribution_n of_o the_o good_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o ordinary_a function_n in_o a_o church_n lawful_o constitute_v which_o office_n in_o the._n 30._o he_o call_v the_o deaconship_n p._n martyr_n upon_o the._n 12._o to_o the_o rom._n speak_v of_o the_o elder_n which_o do_v assist_v the_o pastor_n in_o every_o church_n &_o of_o the_o deacon_n lament_v that_o this_o order_n be_v so_o fall_v out_o of_o the_o church_n that_o the_o name_n of_o these_o function_n do_v scarce_o 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