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A26959 More proofs of infants church-membership and consequently their right to baptism, or, A second defence of our infant rights and mercies in three parts ... / by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1675 (1675) Wing B1312; ESTC R17239 210,005 430

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kingdom_n at_o the_o first_o p._n 72_o sect._n 46._o infant_n church-membership_a continue_a or_o renew_v by_o the_o first_o law_n of_o grace_n make_v to_o adam_n gen._n 3.15_o to_o sect._n 49._o christ_n be_v the_o head_n in_o infancy_n prove_v what_o it_o be_v bring_v for_o and_o force_v mr._n t._n to_o grant_v the_o cause_n p._n 81_o sect._n 49._o the_o same_o prove_v by_o the_o exposition_n of_o this_o covenant_n in_o that_o make_v to_o abraham_n vindicate_v against_o mr._n t._n who_o again_o forsake_v his_o cause_n p._n 97_o sect._n 50._o no_o proof_n that_o there_o be_v ever_o one_o church-member_n who_o in_o that_o state_n have_v a_o infant_n bear_v to_o he_o who_o be_v not_o also_o a_o church-member_n p._n 104_o sect._n 51_o 52._o how_o far_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n prove_v what_o i_o assert_v the_o church-state_n of_o infant_n no_o disadvantage_n but_o a_o great_a benefit_n wherein_o prove_v to_o sect._n 59_o p._n 105_o sect._n 60._o more_o particular_a proof_n as_o of_o cain_n abel_n seth_n noah_n son_n etc._n etc._n p._n 116_o sect._n 70_o to_o 79._o prove_v the_o point_n full_o from_o the_o covenant_n with_o abraham_n p._n 124_o sect._n 79_o to_o 86._o the_o point_n prove_v by_o the_o promise_n to_o the_o israelite_n a_o virtual_a cause_n may_v be_v long_o in_o be_v before_o it_o be_v formal_o a_o cause_n and_o may_v cause_v at_o last_o without_o any_o change_n in_o itself_o but_o in_o the_o recipient_a p._n 130_o sect._n 86._o the_o proof_n from_o the_o second_o commandment_n vindicate_v p._n 135_o sect._n 87_o to_o 93._o proof_n from_o divers_a other_o text_n p._n 137_o sect._n 93_o to_o 96._o the_o case_n of_o infant_n in_o the_o womb_n p._n 140_o sect._n 96_o 97._o these_o statute_n not_o repeal_v mr._n t.'s_n conceit_n that_o god_n promise_n can_v be_v repeal_v confute_v p._n 141_o sect._n 98_o to_o 107._o divers_a question_n offer_v to_o consideration_n p._n 145_o sect._n 107_o etc._n etc._n ten_o humble_v question_n to_o mr._n t._n publish_v by_o himself_o against_o my_o will_n p._n 157_o the_o full_a proof_n from_o the_o new_a testament_n only_o name_v as_o be_v before_o handle_v p._n 159_o a_o confutation_n of_o the_o many_o argument_n by_o which_o mr._n t._n will_v prove_v that_o infant_n be_v not_o church-member_n under_o christ_n p._n 161_o the_o content_n of_o the_o second_o part._n the_o preface_n sect._n 1_o of_o controversy_n how_o far_o good_a or_o bad_a with_o who_o sharp_a rebuke_n and_o earnest_n contend_v be_v a_o duty_n and_o with_o who_o not_o and_o who_o duty_n it_o be_v p._n 185_o sect._n 2._o of_o the_o weight_n of_o the_o present_a controversy_n that_o we_o make_v it_o not_o great_a or_o less_o than_o it_o be_v and_o the_o state_n of_o it_o in_o part_n p._n 198_o chap._n 1._o the_o occasion_n of_o this_o book_n from_o mr._n danvers_n p._n 211_o chap._n 2._o more_o of_o my_o present_a judgement_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o their_o cause_n with_o a_o motion_n to_o they_o for_o communion_n and_o peace_n p._n 216_o chap._n 3._o a_o general_a view_n of_o mr._n danvers_n book_n p._n 234_o chap._n 4._o mr._n danvers_n witness_n against_o infant-baptism_n his_o sad_a forgery_n against_o the_o donatist_n detect_v his_o marvellous_a falsification_n of_o augustine_n third_n and_o four_o book_n against_o they_o the_o bapt_v the_o say_v book_n vindicate_v they_o prove_v that_o the_o donatist_n consent_v to_o infant-baptism_n and_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n hold_v it_o and_o no_o christian_a think_v it_o vain_a his_o forgery_n against_o vincentius_n victor_n his_o slander_n of_o cresconius_n his_o slander_n of_o all_o the_o novatian_o his_o slander_n of_o the_o ancient_a britain_n detect_v his_o reason_n for_o the_o britain_n be_v against_o infant-baptism_n confute_v where_o many_o more_o untruth_n be_v detect_v of_o they_o and_o many_o other_o his_o forgery_n or_o false_a story_n of_o the_o messalian_o call_v by_o he_o dado_n sabas_n adulphus_n simonis_n his_o slander_n of_o faustus_n rhegiensis_n his_o deceit_n about_o albanus_n his_o gross_a falsification_n of_o nicephorus_n and_o slander_n of_o peter_n of_o apamea_n and_o zooras_n his_o false_a story_n of_o adrian_n bishop_n of_o corinth_n and_o his_o false_a report_n of_o gregory_n deal_n with_o he_o his_o fable_n of_o egyptian_a divine_n his_o fiction_n about_o one_o berinius_n and_o his_o falsification_n of_o beda_n concern_v he_o his_o forgery_n about_o hincmarus_n laudunensis_n and_o of_o hincmarus_n rhemensis_n charge_n against_o he_o his_o slander_n of_o the_o waldenses_n heretofore_o detect_v and_o further_o by_o nauclerus_fw-la a_o reference_n to_o our_o former_a proof_n of_o the_o antiquity_n of_o infant-baptism_n nazianzens_n judgement_n his_o audacious_a abuse_n of_o cyprian_a and_o the_o carthage_n council_n my_o repeat_v assertion_n of_o the_o novelty_n of_o antipedobaptism_n p._n 239_o chap._n 5._o mr._n d.'s_n great_a calumny_n of_o myself_o refute_v as_o if_o i_o have_v false_o report_v that_o some_o at_o that_o time_n be_v baptize_v naked_a p._n 281_o chap._n 6._o his_o abusive_a citation_n of_o my_o write_n as_o for_o his_o cause_n p._n 285_o chap._n 7._o his_o many_o personal_a accusation_n of_o i_o examine_v whence_o it_o be_v that_o so_o many_o bold_o speak_v evil_a of_o the_o thing_n they_o know_v not_o his_o reproach_n of_o every_o one_o of_o my_o nonconforming_a brethren_n that_o my_o doctrine_n in_o the_o particular_n accuse_v by_o he_o be_v heinous_a to_o every_o one_o of_o they_o when_o i_o remember_v not_o any_o one_o of_o they_o that_o have_v ever_o to_o i_o express_v his_o dissent_n much_o less_o endeavour_v to_o change_v my_o judgement_n but_o many_o that_o have_v profess_v their_o approbation_n his_o vain_a talk_n of_o my_o be_v lose_v with_o my_o friend_n by_o which_o he_o imply_v that_o they_o be_v hypocrite_n in_o conceal_v it_o and_o will_v make_v i_o one_o in_o seek_v the_o applause_n of_o man_n his_o many_o falsehood_n in_o his_o accusation_n of_o self-contradiction_n and_o mutability_n 1._o about_o episcopacy_n 2._o about_o nonconformity_n what_o he_o mean_v by_o my_o shelter_a myself_o in_o their_o tent_n in_o a_o storm_n and_o with_o their_o indulgence_n come_v forth_o of_o my_o hole_n 3_o of_o my_o friendship_n to_o calvin_n and_o arminius_n 4._o of_o the_o parliament_n cause_n etc._n etc._n 5._o of_o tradition_n 6._o of_o popery_n 7._o whether_o a_o controversy_n may_v have_v difficult_a objection_n against_o plain_a proof_n his_o catalogue_n of_o my_o heinous_a error_n a_o just_a demand_n from_o the_o nonconformist_n if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o who_o he_o do_v not_o slander_v and_o from_o himself_o p._n 288_o chap._n 8._o the_o new_a religion_n of_o my_o backbiter_n or_o a_o catalogue_n of_o some_o doctrine_n of_o mr._n danvers_n and_o the_o rest_n that_o join_v in_o his_o accusation_n of_o my_o write_n if_o indeed_o they_o hold_v the_o contrary_n to_o that_o which_o they_o accuse_v as_o their_o accusation_n seem_v to_o suppose_v viz._n fifty_o six_o new_a commandment_n and_o doctrine_n the_o good_a that_o these_o man_n do_v p._n 313_o chap._n 9_o mr._n william_n allens_n vindication_n of_o himself_o against_o mr._n d.'s_n misreport_n and_o my_o testimony_n concern_v mr._n allen_n and_o mr._n lamb._n p._n 333_o conclusion_n a_o admonition_n to_o mr._n danvers_n for_o his_o repentance_n p._n 337_o the_o content_n of_o the_o three_o part._n chap._n 1._o the_o frightful_a aspect_n of_o his_o reply_n p._n 345_o chap._n 2._o his_o impenitent_a false_a allegation_n of_o witness_n against_o infant-baptism_n of_o tertullian_n whether_o cyprian_n doctrine_n be_v antichristian_a wickliff_n vindicate_v at_o large_a from_o his_o express_a word_n berengarius_fw-la vindicate_v p._n 349_o chap._n 3._o mr._n d.'s_n justification_n of_o his_o slander_n of_o the_o waldenses_n confute_v his_o witness_n examine_v and_o his_o unfaithfulness_n open_v and_o the_o case_n of_o the_o waldenses_n more_o large_o explicate_v p._n 379_o chap._n 4._o his_o impenitence_n in_o calumniate_a the_o donatist_n and_o novatian_n as_o against_o infant-baptism_n reprehend_v p._n 400_o chap._n 5._o his_o renew_a calumny_n of_o the_o old_a britain_n reprove_v p._n 402_o chap._n 6._o his_o rash_a report_n of_o bishop_n usher_n censure_n of_o i_o consider_v p._n 404_o postscript_n the_o testimony_n of_o smaragdus_n full_o open_v and_o the_o report_n of_o peter_n abbas_n cluniacensis_fw-la and_o bernard_n abbas_n clarevallensis_n their_o weak_a disingenuous_a course_n of_o print_v my_o word_n as_o against_o myself_o in_o a_o sheet_n call_v mr._n baxters_n argument_n etc._n etc._n cry_v about_o the_o street_n as_o if_o the_o necessity_n of_o profess_a faith_n for_o ourselves_o will_v prove_v that_o our_o profess_a faith_n and_o dedicate_a they_o to_o god_n be_v not_o sufficient_a for_o the_o baptismal_a reception_n of_o our_o infant_n p._n 407_o reader_n my_o pain_n and_o great_a business_n deny_v i_o time_n
deliver_v down_o the_o form_n and_o word_n of_o baptism_n to_o we_o §_o 18._o afterwards_o pag._n 230._o ed._n 2._o mr._n danvers_n come_v to_o austin_n again_o and_o say_v that_o vincentius_n victor_n do_v oppose_v austin_n in_o the_o point_n of_o infant-baptism_n cite_v august_n li._n 3._o c._n 14._o de_fw-la anima_fw-la answ_n not_o a_o word_n of_o truth_n no_o such_o matter_n in_o that_o chapter_n or_o the_o whole_a book_n §_o 19_o next_o he_o say_v cresconius_n do_v also_o oppose_v austin_n in_o the_o point_n of_o infant_n baptism_n and_o do_v maintain_v that_o there_o be_v no_o true_a baptism_n but_o that_o which_o administer_v after_o faith_n answ_n utter_o false_a still_o there_o be_v no_o such_o controversy_n between_o they_o no_o wonder_n if_o he_o have_v miscit_v sentence_n that_o will_v thus_o go_v to_o falsify_v whole_a book_n as_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o they_o never_o meddle_v with_o augustine_n have_v write_v against_o petilian_n their_o best_a speaker_n have_v of_o a_o lawyer_n be_v make_v a_o bishop_n cresconius_n a_o donatist_n grammarian_n interpose_v for_o petilian_n and_o persuade_v austin_n to_o gentle_a thought_n of_o they_o but_o speak_v not_o a_o word_n against_o infant-baptism_n §_o 20._o nay_o lib._n 3._o cap._n 31._o austin_n tell_v we_o that_o they_o hold_v it_o as_o well_o as_o the_o catholic_n say_v he_o circumcisionem_fw-la certe_fw-la praeputii_fw-la in_o figura_fw-la futuri_fw-la baptismi_fw-la christi_fw-la ab_fw-la antiquis_fw-la observatum_fw-la esse_fw-la negare_fw-la ut_fw-la arbitror_fw-la non_fw-la audetis_fw-la that_o be_v i_o suppose_v you_o dare_v not_o deny_v that_o circumcision_n be_v observe_v by_o the_o ancient_n in_o figure_n of_o the_o christian_a baptism_n it_o be_v a_o grant_v thing_n §_o 21._o and_o it_o be_v cresconius_n word_n to_o austin_n una_fw-la religio_fw-la eadem_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la nihil_fw-la in_o christiana_n observatione_fw-la diversum_fw-la &_o adhuc_fw-la adversus_fw-la inuicem_fw-la laboramus_fw-la say_v austin_n quare_fw-la ergo_fw-la rebaptiza_n christianum_fw-la ego_fw-la non_fw-la rebaptizo_fw-it that_o be_v we_o have_v all_o one_o religion_n the_o same_o sacrament_n there_o be_v nothing_o in_o our_o christian_a observation_n divers_a say_v cresconius_n and_o yet_o do_v we_o strive_v against_o each_o other_o why_o then_o do_v thou_o rebaptize_v a_o christian_n that_o differ_v not_o from_o they_o i_o rebaptize_v no_o christian_a say_v austin_n so_o that_o here_o be_v no_o disagreement_n in_o sacrament_n or_o any_o christian_a observance_n only_o as_o austin_n say_v lib._n 7._o the_o bapt_a c._n 2._o the_o quarrel_n be_v that_o the_o catholic_n be_v charge_v to_o be_v traditores_fw-la quia_fw-la ex_fw-la traditoribus_fw-la the_o successor_n of_o sinner_n thus_o be_v wise_a and_o righteous_a overmuch_o do_v tear_v and_o almost_o ruin_v the_o church_n §_o 22._o he_o add_v pag._n 223._o ed._n 2._o the_o say_n of_o osiander_n fuller_n bullinger_n that_o the_o donatist_n and_o the_o anabaptist_n hold_v the_o same_o opinion_n answ_n 1._o in_o what_o in_o all_o thing_n or_o some_o that_o be_v in_o the_o point_n of_o rebaptise_v person_n before_o baptize_v do_v you_o own_o that_o indeed_o but_o not_o as_o be_v against_o infant-baptism_n 2._o so_o many_o prelatist_n have_v call_v the_o puritan_n donatist_n and_o abundance_n of_o protestant_n say_v that_o the_o papist_n succeed_v the_o donatist_n in_o appropriate_v the_o church_n to_o their_o party_n do_v not_o write_v next_o that_o they_o say_v the_o papist_n be_v against_o infant-baptism_n lest_o you_o make_v yourselves_o antichristian_a also_o §_o 23._o reader_n the_o donatist_n be_v so_o great_a a_o party_n of_o man_n and_o have_v so_o great_a a_o number_n of_o bishop_n and_o so_o many_o write_v against_o they_o who_o work_n be_v yet_o extant_a and_o their_o cause_n have_v so_o many_o public_a examination_n that_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o thou_o if_o thou_o have_v the_o brain_n of_o a_o man_n to_o judge_v whether_o if_o they_o have_v be_v against_o infant-baptism_n in_o a_o time_n when_o austin_n say_v no_o christian_a deny_v it_o neither_o optatus_n nor_o austin_n nor_o any_o other_o of_o their_o most_o copious_a opposer_n will_v ever_o have_v charge_v they_o with_o such_o a_o opinion_n nor_o any_o examiner_n council_n or_o historian_n of_o their_o age_n even_o when_o the_o catalogue_n of_o heretic_n unhappy_o take_v in_o so_o many_o little_a matter_n as_o they_o do_v and_o make_v heretic_n some_o more_o and_o worse_o than_o they_o be_v and_o now_o if_o john_n becold_n will_v say_v they_o be_v of_o his_o side_n we_o must_v believe_v he_o §_o 24._o his_o deal_n with_o the_o novatian_o be_v the_o same_o or_o worse_o he_o fear_v not_o in_o the_o face_n of_o the_o sun_n to_o write_v that_o the_o novatian_o oppose_a infant-baptism_n and_o number_v they_o also_o with_o his_o party_n when_o it_o be_v a_o falsehood_n as_o much_o aggravate_v as_o these_o particular_n import_n 1._o they_o be_v a_o honest_a and_o numerous_a people_n and_o scatter_v almost_o all_o over_o the_o empire_n tolerate_v till_o innocent_n time_n in_o rome_n and_o long_o tolerate_v and_o much_o favour_v by_o many_o emperor_n and_o patriarch_n in_o constantinople_n because_o as_o socrates_n say_v they_o agree_v in_o doctrine_n with_o the_o catholic_n and_o can_v they_o have_v deny_v infant-baptism_n and_o not_o be_v accuse_v of_o it_o 2._o they_o have_v many_o bitter_a enemy_n that_o will_v soon_o have_v cast_v this_o in_o their_o tooth_n 3._o many_o council_n have_v to_o do_v with_o they_o where_o multitude_n have_v opportunity_n to_o accuse_v they_o 4._o they_o be_v a_o ancient_a sect_n arise_v even_o in_o cyprian_n time_n and_o long_o continue_v and_o in_o so_o many_o generation_n it_o will_v have_v be_v know_v 5._o they_o be_v put_v in_o the_o catalogue_n of_o many_o heresiographer_n that_o be_v keen_a enough_o and_o none_o of_o they_o that_o ever_o i_o find_v accuse_v they_o of_o any_o 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believe_v what_o this_o author_n have_v do_v till_o he_o needs_o must_v be_v yet_o far_o hard_a though_o we_o say_v he_o that_o will_v swear_v will_v lie_v and_o therefore_o we_o hardly_o believe_v a_o swearer_n yet_o if_o a_o man_n with_o many_o hundred_o bloody_a oath_n shall_v assert_v many_o particular_n of_o public_a cognisance_n we_o be_v ready_a to_o think_v it_o inhuman_a to_o suspect_v that_o the_o man_n be_v so_o inhuman_a as_o thus_o to_o swear_v if_o some_o of_o they_o be_v not_o true_a alas_o for_o the_o poor_a church_n of_o christ_n that_o must_v have_v such_o sore_a temptation_n how_o shall_v they_o be_v withstand_v §_o 3._o 2._o and_o how_o sad_a be_v it_o that_o a_o christian_a man_n profess_v not_o only_a truth_n and_o godliness_n but_o so_o much_o of_o these_o as_o to_o be_v above_o communion_n with_o such_o as_o we_o shall_v ever_o degenerate_v into_o such_o a_o thing_n as_o his_o present_a writing_n do_v discover_v o_o what_o need_n have_v we_o to_o lay_v to_o heart_n that_o of_o paul_n rom._n 11._o be_v not_o high-minded_a but_o fear_n and_o to_o learn_v over_o and_o over_o jam._n 3._o and_o christ_n word_n to_o the_o son_n of_o thunder_n you_o know_v not_o what_o manner_n of_o spirit_n you_o be_v of_o §_o 4._o and_o alas_o that_o ever_o the_o bitter_a voluminous_a reproach_n of_o the_o zeal_n of_o the_o present_a age_n shall_v have_v such_o a_o scandal_n or_o stumble_a block_n lay_v in_o their_o way_n to_o harden_v they_o in_o the_o justification_n of_o their_o reproach_n as_o if_o our_o zeal_n be_v the_o cause_n or_o cover_v of_o such_o heinous_a sin_n woe_n to_o the_o world_n because_o of_o offence_n and_o woe_n to_o they_o by_o who_o they_o come_v §_o 5._o 4._o but_o what_o a_o tremendous_a warning_n be_v this_o against_o the_o spirit_n of_o unwarrantable_a separation_n or_o true_a schism_n when_o the_o same_o person_n shall_v venture_v upon_o all_o that_o be_v here_o write_v by_o he_o who_o yet_o take_v our_o infant_n baptism_n for_o a_o mere_a nullity_n and_o the_o christian_a world_n that_o have_v no_o other_o to_o be_v uncapable_a of_o the_o church-communion_n of_o such_o as_o he_o me-think_a this_o be_v a_o pillar_n of_o salt_n i_o well_o remember_v that_o one_o of_o the_o mean_n of_o keep_v my_o ancient_a flock_n in_o concord_n be_v the_o terror_n of_o these_o horrid_a opinion_n and_o way_n which_o the_o two_o or_o three_o that_o desert_a we_o fall_v into_o chap._n ii_o his_o impenitent_a false_a allegation_n of_o witness_n against_o infant_n baptism_n tertullian_n etc._n etc._n special_o wickliff_n §_o 1._o i_o have_v before_o say_v that_o i_o have_v say_v so_o much_o out_o of_o scripture_n and_o antiquity_n for_o infant_n church-membership_a and_o baptism_n to_o which_o i_o have_v yet_o see_v no_o answer_n that_o shall_v satisfy_v a_o impartial_a man_n either_o from_o mr._n tomb_n mr._n danvers_n or_o any_o other_o that_o i_o will_v not_o lose_v time_n and_o labour_n in_o reply_v to_o their_o frivolous_a exception_n and_o here_o i_o meddle_v direct_o but_o with_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n because_o by_o ostentation_n of_o history_n mr._n d._n will_v seduce_v the_o ignorant_a into_o the_o belief_n of_o gross_a untruth_n i_o begin_v with_o tertullian_n who_o be_v his_o first_o witness_n in_o his_o catalogue_n reprint_v here_o in_o his_o reply_n §_o 2._o and_o why_o have_v we_o no_o satisfactory_a answer_n to_o these_o thing_n so_o oft_o reply_v 1._o that_o tertullia_n word_n prove_v that_o infant-baptism_n be_v then_o in_o use_n and_o it_o be_v the_o matter_n of_o fact_n that_o we_o be_v search_v after_o 2._o and_o do_v he_o think_v that_o antichrist_n be_v before_o tertullia_n time_n 3._o the_o opinion_n of_o tertullian_n seem_v not_o at_o all_o to_o be_v against_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o infant_n baptism_n in_o general_a but_o against_o the_o eligibleness_n of_o it_o in_o case_n of_o no_o apparent_a danger_n of_o death_n for_o i_o have_v oft_o prove_v that_o the_o judgement_n of_o that_o age_n and_o some_o follow_v be_v that_o none_o shall_v be_v compel_v to_o be_v baptise_a or_o to_o baptise_v their_o infant_n but_o they_o shall_v themselves_o be_v chooser_n of_o the_o time_n for_o the_o conceit_n of_o the_o absolute_a necessity_n of_o baptism_n to_o salvation_n come_v in_o afterward_o and_o when_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v holy_a and_o in_o god_n covenant_n or_o promise_n upon_o the_o parent_n mental_a dedication_n of_o they_o to_o god_n and_o so_o in_o a_o state_n of_o salvation_n no_o wonder_n if_o they_o be_v not_o so_o hasty_a and_o peremptory_a for_o the_o sudden_a investiture_n into_o the_o christian_a church_n state_n when_o they_o take_v it_o to_o be_v but_o the_o public_a solemnisation_n of_o a_o covenant_n real_o make_v and_o valid_a before_o and_o as_o nazianzen_n be_v for_o infant-baptism_n long_o after_o in_o case_n of_o danger_n but_o else_o for_o stay_v three_o or_o four_o year_n till_o they_o can_v speak_v so_o tertullian_n seem_v to_o prefer_v delay_n for_o such_o conveniency_n as_o he_o mention_v 4._o and_o if_o mr._n d._n doubt_v of_o this_o let_v he_o tell_v i_o why_o he_o say_v cunctatio_fw-la utilior_fw-la 5._o and_o give_v the_o reason_n from_o the_o inconvenience_n to_o the_o sponsor_n 6._o and_o why_o he_o also_o persuade_v the_o unmarried_a and_o young_a widow_n to_o delay_v their_o baptism_n till_o they_o be_v marry_v or_o grow_v corroborate_v to_o continency_n lest_o temptation_n carry_v they_o to_o sin_n and_o make_v this_o case_n of_o the_o like_a reason_n with_o that_o of_o infant_n do_v he_o think_v that_o it_o be_v flat_o unlawful_a for_o maid_n and_o young_a widow_n to_o be_v baptise_a or_o only_o less_o safe_a and_o eligible_a except_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n the_o case_n be_v plain_a 7._o