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A48363 An ansvver to Sir Thomas Manwaring's book, intituled, - An admonition to the reader of Sir Peter Leicester's books. Written by the same Sir Peter Leicester Leycester, Peter, Sir, 1614-1678. 1677 (1677) Wing L1941A; ESTC R217658 12,105 49

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year_n 1449_o and_o die_v several_a year_n before_o her_o husband_n answer_n but_o this_o mistake_n i_o rectify_v in_o print_n long_o since_o at_o the_o end_n of_o my_o say_a book_n among_o the_o errata_fw-la and_o also_o at_o the_o end_n of_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o defence_n of_o amicia_n so_o soon_o as_o i_o know_v the_o certainty_n of_o it_o and_o therefore_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v charge_v upon_o i_o to_o the_o 16._o pag._n 12._o here_o he_o say_v that_o i_o say_v sir_n john_n manwaring_n die_v about_o the_o very_a end_n of_o edw._n 4._o his_o reign_n but_o he_o be_v dead_a for_o certain_a the_o 14._o of_o april_n 20._o of_o edw._n 4._o answer_n have_v i_o but_o say_v towards_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o edw._n 4._o i_o have_v not_o much_o err_v and_o i_o can_v not_o put_v down_o the_o exact_a time_n till_o i_o know_v it_o now_o edw._n 4._o reign_v but_o 22_o year_n in_o all_o to_o the_o 17._o pag._n 12_o 13._o here_o he_o say_v that_o i_o omit_v agnes_n daughter_n of_o john_n manwaring_n of_o peever_n esquire_n and_o wife_n of_o sir_n robert_n nedham_n answer_n indeed_o at_o first_o i_o make_v some_o doubt_n of_o the_o truth_n hereof_o because_o i_o find_v in_o my_o lord_n kilmorey_n pedigree_n under_o the_o herald_n seal_n that_o the_o say_a sir_n robert_n nedham_n marry_v maud_n daughter_n of_o sir_n john_n savage_n but_o as_o soon_o as_o i_o find_v out_o the_o truth_n i_o rectify_v that_o omission_n in_o print_n at_o the_o end_n of_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o defence_n of_o amicia_n pag._n 87_o as_o will_v appear_v by_o the_o say_a book_n print_v 1673_o and_o do_v also_o blot_v out_o that_o match_n with_o savage_a in_o my_o own_o book_n in_o the_o pedigree_n of_o that_o family_n pag._n 233._o and_o yet_o he_o impute_v it_o now_o again_o as_o if_o i_o have_v not_o mend_v the_o same_o which_o be_v unjust_o charge_v here_o to_o the_o 18._o pag._n 13._o here_o he_o say_v that_o katherine_n manwaring_n marry_v william_n newton_n probable_o 1522_o and_o i_o 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know_v to_o the_o 22._o pag._n 14._o here_o he_o say_v that_o pag._n 336._o i_o say_v philip_n manwaring_n esquire_n be_v the_o five_o son_n of_o sir_n john_n manwaring_n but_o he_o be_v the_o seven_o son_n bear_v and_o not_o the_o five_o as_o appear_v by_o the_o monument_n of_o the_o say_a sir_n john_n in_o over-peev_a church_n wherein_o the_o monument_n of_o the_o say_v philip_n be_v also_o answer_n it_o may_v be_v so_o but_o they_o all_o die_v young_a and_o philip_n become_v heir_n if_o it_o be_v a_o error_n it_o be_v but_o a_o small_a one_o and_o not_o material_a to_o the_o 23._o pag._n 15._o here_o he_o confess_v what_o i_o say_v to_o be_v truth_n that_o the_o herald_n in_o the_o reign_n of_o queen_n elizabeth_n make_v for_o sir_n randle_n manwaring_n coat_n barry_n of_o twelve_o piece_n argent_fw-fr and_o gules_a see_v guillims_n heraldry_n pag._n 373._o but_o say_v he_o the_o manwaring_n since_o then_o have_v again_o give_v two_o bar_n only_o and_o the_o coat_n which_o the_o say_a sir_n randle_n do_v then_o usual_o bear_v be_v six_o barrulet_n and_o that_o i_o know_v the_o ancient_a coat_n to_o be_v six_o barrulet_n pag._n 330._o and_o not_o barry_n of_o twelve_o piece_n answer_n it_o be_v true_a that_o i_o say_v the_o ancient_a deed_n of_o roger_n manwaring_n make_v in_o the_o reign_n of_o king_n henry_n the_o three_o be_v seal_v with_o a_o escocheon_n of_o six_o barrulet_n pag._n 330._o but_o that_o coat_n devise_v for_o the_o say_a sir_n randle_n guillim_n the_o herald_n call_v it_o barry_n of_o twelve_o piece_n i_o know_v not_o the_o criticism_n in_o these_o term_n of_o heraldry_n the_o herald_n themselves_o be_v the_o best_a judge_n herein_o and_o whether_o we_o call_v it_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o it_o be_v not_o a_o pin_n matter_n nor_o have_v i_o commit_v any_o error_n at_o all_o for_o i_o there_o vouch_v guillim_n for_o it_o to_o the_o 24._o pag._n 15._o here_o he_o say_v that_o i_o say_v the_o say_a sir_n randle_n manwaring_n the_o elder_a build_v the_o hall_n of_o over-peev_a anew_o 1586._o but_o say_v he_o part_n of_o the_o say_a house_n be_v build_v 1585._o and_o another_o part_n be_v build_v 1586._o answer_n be_v not_o here_o a_o worshipful_a exception_n it_o be_v more_o proper_a to_o ascribe_v the_o time_n when_o it_o be_v build_v to_o the_o finish_n of_o it_o than_o when_o it_o be_v begin_v for_o it_o be_v not_o all_o build_v till_o it_o be_v finish_v to_o the_o 25._o pag._n 16._o here_o he_o say_v that_o pag._n 336._o i_o call_v sir_n philip_n manwaring_n secretary_n of_o ireland_n to_o the_o earl_n of_o stafford_n 1638._o whereas_o the_o say_a sir_n philip_n be_v his_o majesty_n secretary_n of_o state_n there_o answer_n here_o i_o confess_v my_o word_n be_v not_o well_o order_v for_o i_o intend_v no_o more_o there_o than_o that_o he_o be_v secretary_n of_o ireland_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o earl_n of_o stafford_n then_z lord_z lieutenant_z there_o 1638._o but_o i_o have_v correct_v this_o in_o my_o note_n 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uncertainty_n omission_n and_o mistake_v which_o he_o have_v charge_v i_o withal_o answer_n whereunto_o i_o say_v that_o i_o shall_v write_v no_o more_o concern_v this_o admonition_n than_o this_o answer_n here_o publish_v unless_o he_o shall_v also_o publish_v more_o scandalous_a thing_n against_o i_o only_o i_o observe_v he_o will_v not_o or_o rather_o can_v show_v any_o proof_n for_o my_o partiality_n for_o that_o be_v leave_v out_o here_o among_o the_o other_o general_a head_n mention_v and_o it_o have_v be_v better_a to_o have_v leave_v that_o out_o before_o for_o i_o dare_v appeal_n to_o god_n and_o his_o own_o conscience_n that_o he_o very_o believe_v that_o i_o intend_v nothing_o of_o partiality_n to_o any_o family_n nor_o especial_o any_o malignancy_n to_o he_o and_o therefore_o more_o unhandsome_o do_v to_o charge_v it_o upon_o i_o before_o and_o most_o unjust_a and_o what_o he_o say_v of_o show_v proof_n of_o all_o the_o uncertainty_n omission_n and_o mistake_v here_o charge_v upon_o i_o unto_o any_o one_o that_o shall_v come_v unto_o he_o i_o believe_v he_o will_v have_v very_o few_o to_o resort_v unto_o he_o on_o that_o account_n only_o unless_o they_o be_v more_o weighty_a and_o concern_v which_o i_o refer_v myself_o to_o my_o answer_n here_o above_o write_v mobberley_n sept._n the_o 20._o 1676._o finis_fw-la