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king_n be_v of_o any_o i_o know_v not_o sect._n 37._o but_o p._n 152._o he_o come_v upon_o i_o why_o i_o think_v it_o not_o my_o duty_n all_o this_o while_n to_o baptise_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n be_v i_o not_o solemn_o bind_v by_o ordination_n to_o one_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o presbyter_n of_o old_a be_v rare_o allow_v to_o preach_v ans_fw-fr 1._o you_o tell_v the_o world_n what_o measure_n we_o must_v expect_v from_o such_o as_o you_o if_o we_o have_v all_o forbear_v any_o church_n gather_n and_o pastoral_n undertake_n of_o flock_n and_o both_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n and_o only_o preach_v as_o loath_a to_o offend_v you_o more_o than_o needs_o our_o accusation_n have_v but_o be_v the_o great_a which_o incourage_v your_o more_o ingenious_a dissenter_n to_o do_v what_o they_o also_o be_v accuse_v of_o 2._o do_v you_o not_o know_v our_o reason_n they_o be_v these_o 1._o because_o we_o suppose_v there_o be_v a_o great_a want_n of_o our_o preach_n than_o of_o our_o 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province_n or_o metropolis_n that_o be_v per_fw-la se_fw-la subsistentes_fw-la and_o therefore_o when_o theodoret_n say_v how_o many_o church_n be_v under_o hand_n it_o be_v like_a he_o mean_v bishop_n church_n and_o not_o mere_a presbyter_n and_o either_o a_o cypher_n drop_v in_o corrupt_v the_o account_n or_o else_o the_o bishop_n have_v but_o single_a congregation_n but_o for_o my_o part_n as_o the_o case_n so_o late_o concern_v i_o not_o so_o i_o see_v nothing_o to_o persuade_v i_o that_o that_o epistle_n be_v genuine_a and_o uncorrupt_a but_o i_o will_v not_o have_v a_o diocese_n which_o then_o have_v many_o province_n or_o a_o province_n which_o have_v many_o bishop_n church_n be_v take_v for_o a_o single_a church_n sect._n 5._o the_o same_o i_o say_v of_o carthage_n which_o be_v the_o metropolis_n of_o africa_n and_o the_o first_o of_o six_o province_n before_o
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of_o ignorant_a malignant_a unfaithful_a or_o heretical_a man_n §_o 6._o v._o i_o have_v oft_o say_v that_o mutual_a consent_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o relation_n of_o pastor_n and_o flock_n and_o though_o sometime_o the_o ruler_n imposition_n and_o the_o patron_n choice_n may_v make_v it_o the_o people_n duty_n in_o prudence_n to_o consent_v when_o the_o good_a preponderates_n the_o hurt_n not_o else_o yet_o till_o they_o consent_v the_o relation_n be_v not_o existent_a as_o if_o child_n be_v bind_v to_o take_v wife_n and_o husband_n by_o the_o command_n and_o before_o choice_n of_o parent_n yet_o it_o be_v no_o marriage_n till_o they_o consent_v §_o 7._o the_o common_a objection_n be_v from_o the_o inconvenience_n if_o the_o several_a party_n agree_v not_o to_o which_o i_o answer_v 1._o the_o mischief_n of_o the_o contrary_a way_n be_v worse_a than_o that_o inconvenience_n 2._o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o this_o world_n without_o inconvenience_n where_o all_o 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for_o supposition_n of_o my_o own_o make_n and_o here_o he_o step_v over_o to_o another_o man_n §_o 10._o before_o i_o come_v to_o his_o undertake_n i_o will_v repeat_v another_o rail_n and_o undecent_a passion_n against_o his_o cause_n and_o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o note_v how_o well_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n agree_v and_o to_o learn_v which_o of_o they_o it_o be_v that_o we_o must_v believe_v both_o as_o to_o history_n and_o right_n it_o be_v mr._n herbert_n thorndike_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o forbearance_n of_o penal_a it_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n to_o talk_v of_o reformation_n in_o the_o church_n to_o regular_a government_n without_o restore_v the_o liberty_n of_o choose_v bishop_n and_o the_o privilege_n of_o enjoy_v they_o to_o the_o synod_n clergy_n and_o people_n of_o each_o diocese_n so_o evident_a be_v the_o right_n of_o synod_n clergy_n and_o people_n in_o the_o make_n of_o those_o of_o who_o they_o consist_v and_o by_o who_o they_o be_v to_o be_v govern_v that_o i_o need_v make_v no_o other_o reason_n of_o the_o neglect_n of_o episcopacy_n than_o the_o neglect_n of_o it_o yet_o these_o two_o be_v doctor_n of_o one_o church_n but_o we_o be_v no_o member_n of_o it_o §_o 11._o i_o again_o say_v that_o either_o the_o reader_n have_v read_v the_o church_n history_n and_o canon_n or_o not_o if_o not_o how_o can_v he_o tell_v who_o to_o believe_v that_o report_n they_o the_o doctor_n or_o i_o but_o if_o he_o have_v i_o will_v no_o more_o dispute_v this_o case_n with_o he_o than_o i_o will_v do_v whether_o english_a parliament_n use_v to_o make_v law_n he_o be_v pass_v my_o conviction_n if_o he_o be_v not_o convince_v §_o 12._o and_o i_o will_v again_o say_v that_o i_o will_v yet_o suppose_v the_o doctor_n so_o humble_a as_o to_o acknowledge_v himself_o much_o inferior_a to_o paulus_n sarpi_fw-la servita_fw-la venerunt_fw-la in_o point_n of_o church_n history_n at_o least_o i_o say_v to_o the_o reader_n peruse_v what_o he_o have_v say_v of_o this_o controversy_n and_o of_o the_o alteration_n of_o church_n government_n in_o his_o history_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n and_o his_o book_n of_o church_n benefice_n late_o translate_v by_o dr._n denton_n and_o doubt_v if_o you_o can_v §_o 13._o and_o in_o general_n i_o add_v i._o i_o suppose_v no_o man_n of_o such_o read_n make_v any_o doubt_n of_o the_o first_o 300_o year_n whether_o any_o bishop_n be_v make_v over_o any_o church_n without_o the_o free_a election_n or_o consent_n of_o the_o flock_n and_o the_o whole_a clergy_n and_o the_o approbation_n of_o the_o ordainer_n i_o will_v not_o for_o shame_n stay_v to_o prove_v this_o have_v say_v so_o much_o of_o it_o in_o my_o first_o plea_n for_o peace_n and_o episcopal_a church_n history_n which_o be_v unanswered_a ii_o and_o since_o the_o first_o 300_o year_n it_o be_v so_o notorious_a in_o history_n that_o it_o be_v a_o shame_n to_o need_v proof_n of_o it_o that_o the_o christian_a emperor_n confirm_v the_o church_n in_o this_o right_a and_o use_v and_o for_o many_o hundred_o year_n after_o permit_v and_o order_v that_o bishop_n shall_v be_v choose_v by_o the_o people_n clergy_n and_o synod_n and_o when_o the_o people_n election_n be_v infringe_v the_o necessity_n of_o their_o consent_n long_o continue_v and_o it_o be_v only_o in_o the_o choice_n of_o the_o five_o patriarch_n that_o the_o emperor_n use_v to_o meddle_v and_o that_o not_o always_o nor_o at_o all_o choose_v they_o alone_o but_o commend_v some_o one_o to_o the_o people_n and_o clergy_n to_o choose_v or_o confirm_v some_o one_o that_o they_o have_v nominate_v and_o this_o hold_v on_o till_o popery_n spring_v up_o iii_o and_o even_o then_o the_o pope_n long_o continue_v it_o but_o 1._o they_o strive_v special_o in_o hildebrand_n day_n and_o
magistrate_n may_v restrain_v he_o and_o refuse_v to_o tolerate_v a_o intolerable_a man_n and_o yet_o the_o people_n ought_v not_o to_o accept_v a_o uncapable_a man_n offer_v by_o bishop_n or_o patron_n no_o nor_o a_o man_n next_o to_o uncapable_a when_o they_o need_v and_o may_v have_v much_o better_a many_o negative_n be_v safe_a §_o 53._o he_o say_v the_o profane_a have_v right_a to_o their_o own_o soul_n and_o to_o the_o care_n of_o they_o and_o therefore_o be_v equal_o concern_v with_o other_o to_o choose_v answ_n it_o be_v sad_a with_o the_o church_n when_o they_o need_v to_o be_v save_v from_o such_o reason_n of_o their_o great_a teacher_n 1._o a_o right_a to_o care_v for_o their_o soul_n give_v no_o man_n right_a to_o choose_v man_n for_o other_o soul_n to_o do_v that_o which_o they_o will_v not_o have_v do_v for_o their_o own_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o that_o man_n will_v communicate_v with_o the_o church_n on_o christ_n term_n he_o refuse_v and_o will_v not_o else_o 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