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A02779	A discoursiue probleme concerning prophesies how far they are to be valued, or credited, according to the surest rules, and directions in diuinitie, philosophie, astrologie, and other learning: deuised especially in abatement of the terrible threatenings, and menaces, peremptorily denounced against the kingdoms, and states of the world, this present famous yeere, 1588, supposed the greatwonderfull, and fatall yeere of our age. By I.H. physition.	Harvey, John, 1564-1592.	1588 (1588)	STC 12908; ESTC S103904	90,621	134

his second comming determined in respect of any such astrologicall coniecture when the science it selfe being Humane and Natural hath not any ascertained intelligence or experience of such diuine and supernaturall vnsearchable mysteries which being onely inrolled in the great volume of Gods owne secrets cannot possiblie by any secundary causes or passe remitting the studious reader in this kinde vnto his foresaid Commentaries Finally such violent mutations or mortall warres and slaughters as Leouitius and other haue inferred are they not the proper acts and effects of Mars rather than of Saturne as Messahalah saith Or is there at all any Astrologicall science or assured prediction of such Martial sturs and garboils which euen Cardane himselfe a great protector otherwise of this prognosticall art durst neuer auow Segment 7. Aphor 120. Why then néede we feare any such sudden hurliburlies or confusions from this Coniunction of Saturne and Iupiter where Mars hath little to do in respect who must play such bloodie and deadly feats Or if he had neuer so much to do why should we be dismaied or discomforted thereby when this art cannot any way determine of such militarie and Martiall euents being in this behalfe no lesse vncertaine Quàm ipsi incerti bellorum exitus What then May it be still imagined that the Coniunction of Saturne and Iupiter was originally or may consequently be reputed the true foundation of this prophesie Or that it is the liker to be true or credible bicause that concurreth therewith in effect Neither is that in any my knowledge expressed either by Leouitius or any other fauourer of that threatening said sawe so that if there were indéed any such terrible coincidents to be ascribed or imputed vnto that congresse we haue yet no vndoubted or assured proofe that they should take place rather in 88. the yéere of this oracle than in 87. or in 89. or in any former or later yéere Cardane in his Commentaries vpon Ptolomeys second Apotelesmaticall booke Cap. 9. Text. 54. writeth that the effects of such a Coniunction take place and hold out vntill another Coniunction or at least vntill such time as the said planets shall be in Opposition but he maketh no certaine difference or distinction of yéeres and Leopoldus Austriacus affirmeth that the yéere it selfe shall be the woorse wherein the Coniunction appéereth but Albumazar 2. diff tract 1. auoweth that the significations of this Coniunction happening in the watrie Trigon are procrastinated or prolonged vntill after sixe Coniunctions immediately insuing How then by any of these obseruations or other like determinations shall the consequents of the Coniunction 83. be appropriately and singularly reduced or particularized to the yéere 88 Besides the present prophesie threateneth either an vniuersall consummation finall dissolution of the world or at least a generall subuersion and alteration of principalities kingdoms monarchies empires wheras not the greatest Coniunction of superior or inferior planets that euer did or shall happen can by any artificiall argument or intelligible conceit extend the force or preuaile any farther than such places onely and such territories as are vnder the subiection of the signe of the Copulation or at the vttermost vnder the partition of that Quadrangle wherof the signe of the Coniunction is presently recounted Wherfore neither that way can 88. be so terrible a yéere bicause of the Coniunction as the prophesie specifieth nor the Coniunction at any time so terrible in works as the prophesie in words appéereth to be Which either in respect of the Annuall Progression thereof or the consent it hath with the Reuolutions of this yéere or with Eclypses héerafter mentioned which kind of naturall Accidents Eclipses I meane are by the sounder doctrine of Ptolomey the principall effecters or abrogaters of the Consequents of such Coniunctions or any like present circumstance or coincident consideration as it is vnlike extraordinarily or excessiuely to afflict this yéere vnlesse peraduenture now and then with some vnaccustomed cold and decay in the fruit of the earth so néedeth it not in my simple opinion to be finally regarded or commonly feared as any notable or powerable author of the pretended Martiall calamities thereof How then Are there yet remaining any other farther causes or artificiall likelihoods of such imminent calamities Be there any forcible or notable Eclipses or fierie Comets to be séene or the sights therof being already passed are there any such to take déepe roote or mightie effect this yéere To which alone as to the most naturall causes or most effectuall Arguments of future horrors Ptolomey and with him the soundest Mathematicians ascribe most certaine and actuall significations Indéede there was an Eclipse of the Moone the last yéere 87. the sixt day of September being Wednesday about 38. Minutes after 8. a clocke at night but what Can that worke any such consequents being but a Partile not a Totall Eclipse Or are not the effects thereof alreadie in a maner consummated Besides who is chéefe gouernor or disposer thereof Was it not Iupiter And what I pray you are his significations when he so ruleth Peruse the 8. chap. of Ptolomeys 2. Apotelesmaticall booke and shall you not there find that Iupiter deliquij assequutus dominium generaliter rerum omnium incrementa contribuit sed peculiariter hominibus largitur gloriam corporis salubritatem animorum tranquillitatem gaudia pacem bonorum copiosa subsidia with such like wished prosperities and blessings And what may be déemed more ioifull fortunate or happie than these Iouiall contributions and bounties Howbeit some will stil obiect that the vnluckie Mars was partaker with him in this gouernment in respect that he was lord of the Terme and Decane wherein the Eclipse happened but what if he were principall gouernor too so he hurt or annoy vs not And how can he hurt or annoy vs this way when the date of the force or operation of the Eclipse it selfe is already worne out Or alas how silly should the effects of any such Defect haue béene in comparison of the gréeuous and huge terrors of this prophesie albeit Mars or Saturne himself had béene sole disposer thereof and his most malitious despitefull and rancorous actions continued most part of the whole yéere Wherefore it is not this Lunarie or a far greater Eclipse that so mightily must do the déede or verifie this prophesie But pawse there awhile I hope you cannot gainsay but that it may notwithstanding helpe somwhat toward the working of such a Tragedie Neither are you yet thoroughly entred into the very depth of the matter for lo in the self-same yéere 88. thrée other eclypses also imminent Yea that which is more you shall haue two of them in one moneth and what is or may rightly be said more fearfull or tragicall than such a reckoning The Sunne shall be eclipsed the 16. day of February at the change and shortly after at the very nextfull namely the second day of March there shall follow a Totall Eclipse of the Moone

Empyreall or Chrystalline heauens Did the holy Ghost descend miraculously vpon them in the likenes of fire or other visible shape Is not the date of such diuine mysteries and heauenly miracles expired many hundred yéeres ago Were extraordinarie and irregular operations euer durable Are we still to make account of supernaturall or seraphicall illuminations and rauishments of spirit Will either sound Diuinitie or discreete Humanitie beare any such doctrine either at these dates or by the time of our ancestors Are not Oracles vtterly ceased as well by the theologicall iudgement of best Diuines as by the philosophicall position not onely of Tullie in his second booke De Diuinatione or of Plutarch in his discourse De Abolitione oraculorum but also of Plinie in the thirtith booke of his Naturall historie of Porphirie in his Inuectiue Contra religionem Christianorum and of sundry other later philosophers Are not the préests of Vrim long ago dead Or were not the prophetical informations by the secrét and diuine vertues of the twelue pretious stones therein comprized altogither antiquated and extinct at least 200. yéeres before Iosephus as himselfe auoweth in his Iudaicall Antiquities Misticall men pretend diuers and sundry misticall causes but you must be faine to pardon many sensible and reasonable personages of good reckoning and sharpe conceit accompanied with discréet consideration and iudgement that will not easily be induced to beléeue more than either humane reason shall probably persuade or diuine authoritie canonically inforce I sée not any naturall or supernaturall excellencie neither am I so melancholique or furious as to attribute much vnto melancholy or furie howsoeuer some against Morall and Naturall reason account of these moodie and rauing passions as Delphicall or Sybilline properties procéeding in truth of very bad and distempered constitutions both of bodie and mind as elsewhere I am to discourse more at large both physically and otherwise But peraduenture for art they might be incomparable for what art Sacred or ciuill philosophicall mathematicall or other theoricall or practicall lawfull or vnlawfull white or blacke There neuer wanted many professors and vaunters of many arts but how few perfect or sufficient artists actually and infallibly approoued by their excellent artificiall works And amongst those pettyprophets what one in maner of any singular or especiall reckoning in any déepe and profound feate of art The greater part God knoweth full silly and sorrie artists in any kinde especially in the sound Theorie and effectuall practise of the woorthiest and noblest sciences mathematical philosōphicall and other of like auailable effect Lift vp your eies and looke into the Diuinitie Schooles were Saint Augustine S. Ierom S. Ambrose S. Gregorie or any notable Diuine either ancient or moderne coiners or fosterers of prophesies Descend to the Mathematicall Schooles heare you any such matter from the mouthes of Ptolomie Copernicus Rheniholdus Iofrancus Offusius or any singular Mathematician Procéede to the Philosophicall chaire and will Aristotle Plinie Cardane Scalliger Ramus or any excellent philosopher busie your brains with any such rauing and senselesse conceits You may well passe by the Physique and Law lectures where I warrant you is some thing else to do than to mispend their golden time or waste their vitall breath about idle and vaine fantasies credulously termed prophesies I could neuer yet learne that Galen or Iustinian or any good Galenist or Iustinianist did greatly lend his eare or bend his mind vnto any such trifles And as for the famous professors of other liberall sciences and faculties how far are they from musing or buzzing vpon those melancholie imaginations Euen such as otherwise haue béen déepliest plunged and almost drowned in the profoundest Acroamatiques and Metaphysiques yea and Magiques and Negromantiques to yet haue little or nothing regarded these phantastiques Haue recourse to all ages and consider their notablest and woorthiest wits and doth it not manifestly appéere as well by histories and chronicles in all languages as otherwise by other credible writings and records that few or none of the learned were euer addicted to the maintaining fostering or fauouring of any such paultry as matters commonly repugnant and opposite to all good learning and to the very grounds of Arte The smaller skil the greater credulitie the lesser knowledge the more passiō Ignorance in many cases the moother of Deuction Simplicitie is soone perswaded and beguiled nothing more easie than to blind the rude multitude most cosenage where least suspition light men light of beléefe want of vnderstanding causeth want of iudgement alas blinde men are faine oftentimes to swallow downe flies and poore soules make as much of homely porrage as other do of finer and daintier fare It is néedles to dwell in this point and happily their actuall experience exercise and practise sheweth it selfe euen as great as their learning Most what solitary and forlorne men melancholy men Saturnine men cloystermen péeuish and wayward men méere Theoristes and phantastes onely delighted in themselues and offended with all the worlde besides vnfit for any ciuill company and vnméete for any practicable action whose whole action nothing but contemplation whose exercise idlenes whose practise vanitie whose finall experience what but selfe-conceite and selfe-liking with contempt of all things else and defiance of all men else whose soveraigne repose and felicitie in their owne priuate speculation and others publique confusion whose totall study and trauell to cosen the world to terrifie the credulous to fill mens mouthes and eares with lamentable and horrible rumours to bréede continuall matters of dreadful suspicions ielousies vndermininges commotions agonies vexations and tribulations of all sortes Mad companions and mates of strange and monstrous disposition but such and such hath béene the very nature and qualitie of our common melancholique and Saturnine prophets wherwith the worlde hath a long space béene perilously seduced and disguised till now at last it beginneth to be somewhat quicker sented and to smell out the sophisticall and hypocritical practises of these terrible skar-crowes and bul-beggers that ment still and still to play their furious parts on the stage and like Demiapolloes or rather like Elphes and Goblins to affright and distraught simple creatures Do I mistake the matter or maner of their procéedings I speake but vnder correction of my betters and am content to submit my slender opiniō to euery sounder iudgement neither dare I peremptorily or affirmatiuely auow euery part of the premisses but onely assay problematically and as our schoolemen tearme it disputatiuely what may therin appéere most probable My intention is not to teach but to learne neither do I affect the credite of a déepe Artist but am content to be reputed a reasonable Questionist I would be loath to misuse any person or disguise any matter in tearmes and therfore will not presume any farther but to put the case and like a tractable Peripatecian or rather Academique by demaunding and arguing to procéede tentatiuely and discoursiuely as the foresaid schoolemen vse to call

imagination of Orpheus as it is recited by Plato and why not to be valued as that heathen Poeticall Sonet But ynough in reason may séeme sufficient in proofe and in dutifull modestie I am to presume the lesse bicause it is a point which hath not béene hitherto particularly confuted or specially discussed by the pen of any man that euer yet came to my view albeit otherwise it hath a long time passed and repassed in the world as being either generally liked of all and plausibly imbraced of the most for a certaine truth or at least suspected of few and reiected of none as an vncertaine counterfet In which consideration notwithstanding all the premisses with other incident appurtenances I am respectiuely to conclude with this protestation that if any man of the learneder sort can alleadge more sufficient reasons and more forcible arguments in defence of the same than I haue addressed in confutation therof I will willingly giue ouer my former position and resolue wholy on their later information as grounded on better and surer iudgement What shall we now conceiue or estéeme of other semblable predictions Do they or any of them inforce any greater credence or assurance Or is there any speciall instigation of reason to mooue or excite vs to intertaine any those other imaginations and forlorne conceites touching the continuance and finall destinies of the world Is not the presumptuous and phantasticall tradition of Leo Haebreus like vnto the former Or rather more vnlike the sacred truth He iumpeth in sort with Rabbi Elias in the foresaide number of 6000. yéeres but otherwise what is his singular opinion Forsooth that in the circuite of euery such seueral period vz. 6000. yéeres there should onely happen a vicissitudinall conuersion or temporall transformation of the elementarie or terrestriall globe of this world but not any finall dissolution of the whole frame and masse thereof and so consequently that there should euery 7000. yéere insue a certaine subalternall time of peaceable calmenes and transitory rest onely after a temporanie fashion or intercourse not otherwise vntill the whole sum of 49000. yéeres fully determining after this maner the 50000. yéere of the worlde bring on the fatall ouerthrow and vtter subuersion as well of celestiall orbs as terrestriall bodies and so finally accomplish the great and mightie Iubilee of eternall rest O egregious figment woorthy the woorthines of so profounde a Kabyne O strange and monstrous Metamorphosis O queint and fantastique inuention O wyzardly dreame of dreames What From 6000. to 6. and almost halfe 6. times 6000 Marrie sir a few such leapes will soone amount In infinitum aeternum and Infernum to and whither not But Lorde from whence is this od farfeiched Babylonian deuise borrowed Is it not likewise collectiuely and extensiuely wroong from the said Mosaicall history of the 6. daies creation and the 7. daies rest Howbeit with what congruence of Analogy or proportion let reason decide or at least from some other like imaginatiue speculation of that clymacterical number of 7 Euen as also Elias his Allegoricall prognosticate was howsoeuer they strangely disagrée in circumstance of time Indéed euery scholer in maner knoweth that Tully In Somnio Scipionis auoweth Septimum numerum omnium ferè nodum esse that Hippocrates supposeth Hominum aetates septenario dierum numero constare that sundry as well diuines as philosophers and other philologers haue made very special account of this number as a very speciall number of most notable consideration for besides Tully Hippocrates Censorius Gellius Boaetius Philo Iudaeus Albertus Macrobius Marsilius Ficinus Tritemius Cornel. Agrippa Syluius Rauzouius and diuers other of like note for humanitie and philosophy is it not manifest that euen the chéefe fathers and doctors of the church to as S. Hierome S. Augustine S. Ambrose Arnobius Eusebius Christome Egidius Remigius and our venerable M. Beade with infinite other schoolemen and modernistes haue also made such woonderfull reckonings of the déepe mysteries thereof that they haue not spared to terme it a holy and sacred number aprecious and diuine number a typical and mysticall number Howsoeuer we now run altogither vpon 8. and 8. and what but 88 The 7. day God rested and hallowed the same also the 7. moneth he ordeined the celebration or solenmization of thrée principall feasts vz. the feast of Trumpets the feast of Reconciliation and the feast of Tabernacles Also euery 7. yéere he inioined the children of Israell to obserue as a Sabaoth or yéere of repose or rest in the lande allotted vnto them Noah was commanded to take into the Arke of euery cleane beast by seauens so Elisha willed Naaman to wash himselfe 7. times in the riuer Iordaine whervpon he was cured of his leprosie the apostles appointed the office of Deaconship vnto 7. chosen men of speciall méetnes for that function Item the 7. golden candlestickes the 7. spirits which are before the throne the 7. seales of the booke the 7. hornes and the 7. eies of the lambe the 7. angels with their 7. trumpets the 7. thunders with their 7. voices the 7. angels hauing the 7. last plagues the 7. golden vyals full of the wrath of God with other like notable seauens do they not séeme to imply some extraordinary or appropriate qualitie of that number And what incomprehensible mysteries appéered vnto Iohn when the said 7. seale was opened When the seuenth angell blew his trumpet when the seuenth angell powred out the seuenth viall into the aire And so foorth Which texts with sundry like verses of holy scripture namely expressing that number do they not figuratiuely containe great miracles and déepe mysteries But of what nature or propertie or how they are precisely to be interpreted without further scruple as I may modestly doubt whether it resteth in the certaine intelligence or definite skill of man to determine so it euidently appéereth that the abouesaid famous authors haue rather mentioned that number with plausible terms of admiration than measured it with any sensible or intelligible rule of vnderstanding Wherfore to returne againe vnto the great Iubileal yéere 50000. wherein the foresaid Leo Haebreus includeth the fatall destinie of the world may it not be déemed that euen himselfe neuer plunged into the depth of his owne conceit or otherwise that he was a false heretique or Apostata For if his prediction be fundamentally drawen from the recited mysterie of the number 7. and withall that position be presupposed true that euery 7000. yéere should bring foorth a temporall Requiem vntill 6. times 6000. yéeres being ouerpassed the finall 7000. should bring out the eternall Requiem then must the 49000. yéere it selfe which is also the great Climactericall Hebdomaticall Scalary Decretoriall yéere consisting of 7. times 7. and amounting of the od 1000. to succéed euery 6000. yéers be estéemed the mighty graund Iubileall yéere and not the 50000. yéere which indéede remaineth in account the first 1000. of a new reckoning or other 6000. yéeres But be