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A08344 Spiritus est vicarius Christi in terra. A treatise wherein dicing, dauncing, vaine playes or enterluds with other idle pastimes [et]c. commonly vsed on the Sabboth day, are reproued by the authoritie of the word of God and auntient writers. Made dialoguewise by Iohn Northbrooke minister and preacher of the word of God; Treatise wherein dicing, dauncing, vaine plaies or enterludes with other idle pastimes, etc. commonly used on the Sabboth day, are reprooved, by the authoritie of the worde of God and auncient writers Northbrooke, John. 1577 (1577) STC 18670; ESTC S113358 126,370 164

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that Chapter you maye reade throughly wherein you shal finde most terrible plagues vpon those that are contemners and disobeyers of God and his worde In Samuell you may reade also that Saule was reproued for this fault and loste his kingdome for it Hath the Lorde saith Samuell as greate pleasure in burnt offrings and sacrifices as when the voyce of the Lorde is obeyed Behold to obey is better than sacrifices and to harken is better than the fat of Rammes Bicause thou hast cast away the worde of God therefore he hath cast away thee from being king Salomon sayth bicause I haue called and yee refused I haue stretched out my hande and none woulde regarde but ye haue despised all my counsels and wold none of my correction I will laugh at your destruction and mocke when feare commeth Then shall they call vpon mee but I will not annswere they shall seeke me earely but they shall not finde me bicause they hated knowledge and did not choose the feare of the Lorde they woulde none of my counsell Therefore shall they eate the fruite of their owne way and be filled with their owne deuises Againe he sayth He that turneth awaye his eare from hearing the law euen his praier shal be abhominable Reade Ieremie and see what plagues came vpon the people for their neglecting of Gods worde Ezechiell sayth that a booke was deliuered him against those that contemned and woulde not heare the worde of the Lorde and frame their liues aunswerable to it which was writtē within and without Lamentations mournings and wo. They that were called to the supper and refused to come had pronoūced against them that none of them which were bidden shall taste of his supper He sayeth also that the kingdome of God shall be taken from you and shall be giuen to a nation which shall bring fruites thereof Also you may perceiue by Christes weeping ouer Ierusalem when hee prophecied of their destruction for not comming to him when he called and for killing his Prophetes who were sent to call them to repentance howe wrathfull Gods indignation is against all such c. Uerye well did Saint Paul saye See that ye despise not him that speaketh for if they escaped not whiche refused him that spake on earth much more shall we not escape if we turne awaye from him that speaketh from heauen c. Chrysostome sayth Quanto nāque maior gratia tanto amplior postea peccantibus poena The greater benefites we receyue at Gods handes and doe abuse them or not regarde them the greater punishment shall fall vppon them afterwarde YOVTH These sayings out of the Scriptures are terrible and pearce my heart and conscience very deepely AGE You knowe that the worde of God is a two edged sworde and entreth through sayth Saint Paule euen to the deuiding asunder of the soule and the spirite and of the ioyntes and the marie and is a discerner of the thoughts and ententes of the heart Whereby you see that it woundeth mortally the rebellious but in the elect it killeth the olde man that they should liue vnto God. YOVTH These paines and curses are terrible which maketh me to tremble for feare AGE Si horrescimus poenam horrescamus etiam causam poenae If we doe abhorre and feare the punishment let vs also abhorre and feare the cause of punishment which is sinne YOVTH I perceyue nowe that it is a greate sinne and they are in a great daunger that contēptuously refuse to heare the word of God when it is preached AGE It is most true For as Augustine sayth Non minor erit reus qui verbum dei negligenter audierit quàm ille qui corpus Christi indignè sumit That is He is no lesse guiltie that negligently heareth the worde of God than he that eateth vnworthily the bodie of Christ. Saint Cyrill sayth If we doubt of them that he are the worde preached what shall we doe of them that doe neuer heare the worde preached at all YOVTH Will not ignorance excuse vs AGE Nothing lesse for it will rather accuse vs as Augustine sayth Ignorantia in eis qui intelligere noluerunt sine dubitatione peceatum est in eis autem qui non potuerunt poena peccati Ergo in vtriusque non est iusta excusatio sed iusta damnatio Ignorance in them that woulde not vnderstande without doubt it is sinne in them that coulde not vnderstande it is the punishment of sinne For in eyther of them there is no iuste excusation but iust damnation Therefore was it called the mother not of denotion as the Papistes terme it but of all mischiefe and vice But we maye saye of our aduersaries the Papistes as Ireneus sayde agaynst the Ualentinian heretikes Veritatis ignorantiam cognitionem vocant Ignorance of the truth and blindenesse they call knowledge YOVTH There are a number that persuade with themselues cleane contrary and think no offence lesse nay that is no offence at all to absent themselues from the Sermons and neuer scarce come to the Temple at prayer hauing no iuste but rather vn●ust occasions to followe their owne pleasures in whatsoeuer and yet boldly will say and affirme as I my selfe haue heard thē they are Gospellers and Protestantes and doe beleeue verye well in God and knoweth as much as the Preacher can or is able to say or teach them AGE Christ sayth Not euery one that sayth Lord Lord shall enter into his kingdome nor euerye one that can saye the Lords prayer the beliefe and the ten commandements is a good Protestant but they that doe the will of our heauenly father so the Iewes bragged that they had Abraham to their father and that they were not borne of fornication but that they hadde one father whiche is God yet Christ pronounceth that they are of their father the Deuill for his workes they did And amongst all the workes Christe speaketh of this sinnefull worke of Satan which was their bragging that they were Gods children and yet woulde not heare Gods worde But to those shall be sayd What art thou that takest my couenant in thy mouth and hatest to be reformed and cast my wordes behinde thee c. Although these men can saye well yet for that they shewe not obedience to their heauenlye father that sayeth This is my onely begotten sonne heare him He will destroy them with the hypocrites that professe they knowe God but by workes they denie him and are abhominable and disobedient and vnto euery good worke reprobate as Saint Paule sayth Hillarie speaketh of these men saying Multi sunt qui simulantes fidem non subditi sunt fidei sibique fidem ipsi potius constituunt quàm accipiunt that is There are many that counterfeyte faith and yet they are not subiect or obedient to the true faith these men doe rather prescribe to themselues a fayth than
qui nullius eget c. Voluntas hominum diuites faciunt pauperes non pecuniarum vel abundantia vel defectus that is to saye He is not a poore man I saye that hath nothing but hee is a poore man that coueteth and lusteth Agayne he is not riche that hath and enioyeth muche goodes but hee that coueteth no other mannes goodes c. the willes and desires of menne maketh riche and poore not the want or abundance of monye Seneca sayeth Diues est non qui magis habet sed qui minus cupit He is riche not that hath much but that coueteth least Therefore Saint Paule sayth Godlynesse is great gaine if a man be content with that he hath c. Whereby you see proued that you and such others are couetous men YOVTH Well let this passe and let vs come agayne vnto our former talke Is it lawfull for Christians to playe at all or not AGE I haue sayde to you my mynde herein alredy what neede you to vrge me so often to tell you YOVTH I will shewe you the reason why that I doe aske you againe AGE What reason is there that so moueth you to reiterate this so often Declare it YOVTH I haue often times hearde affirmed at the mouth of certaine graue learned Diuines that it is not lawfull for any Christian man professing the fayth and true religion of Christe Iesu to play at any game or pastime at all AGE Although in this poynt I am not altogither of their iudgement yet no doubt they seeme to giue reasons for it but yet I must needes confesse these reasons of theirs are sifted very depe and very harde and marueylous precise YOVTH I pray you let me heare what their reasons are that they seeme to persuade by AGE Their reasons are these Seing saye they that wee must yelde account to God of the whole course of our life and of eche particular dede thereof they aske what account we are able to yeelde to God of the time that we leese in playe And seeing say they that we must forbeare euery ydle worde that God rebuketh vs for yea though it be neither othe nor blaspheming of the name of God but onelye bicause it is ydle and spoken to no purpose howe then say they can we excuse our selues of all the ydle time that we spende in playing We must doe all say they that we doe be we great or small riche or poore to the glorye of god And when we playe can we saye that therein wee glorifie God. Paule say they willeth vs to redeme the time which we haue lost in fonde and euill things when we were Idolaters shall we thinke that it is lawfull for vs to leese and spende the same in playe nowe when we are called to the glorie of God It is sufficient for vs sayeth Saint Peter that we haue spent the time past of this lyfe after the lust of the Gentiles walking in wantonnesse lustes drunkennesse in gluttonie drinking and in abhominable Idolatries to the ende that the rest of the time that we shall liue in this fleshe we should liue no more after the concupiscences of men but after the will of god There are so many duties say they that God by his worde requireth of vs so manye meanes and holy exercises and occupations to bestow our selues eyther to the glorie of God or the profit of our neighbours at all houres both daye and night yea though they were longer and that euery daye had eight and fortie houres But in stede of bestowing our selues in holye exercises and better businesses wee spende away our time in playing therefore it is intollerable and by no meanes lawfull for any man that calleth himselfe a Christian to play There is the reading of the worde of God and other good bookes there is comforting the sicke visiting prisoners relieuing the nedy and also the occupations that ech man hath in his estate and particular calling all the whiche with other lyke exercises are express●lye commaunded vs by the worde of God and we can scarce finde in our heartes to doe anye of them and yet can we bestowe say they so long time in playing Certainly all these things well considered we cannot perceyue say they howe it shoulde be seemely or lawfull for a Christian to lose any time be it neuer so little in play Saint Ambrose say they doth generallye condemne all kinde of playe As also Saint Chrysostome YOVTH I promise you they go very neare AGE Although they do yet for my parte I will not bee so straite or scrupulous For I say with Saint Augustine that it is the part of a wise man sometimes to recreate himselfe and reioyce the minde that he may the better away with longer continue and more chearefully returne to his ordinarie labour and vocation S. Ambrose sayth Licet interdum honesta ioca c. Honest pastimes are sometime lawfull YOVTH I woulde very gladly heare your answeres to their reasons which they haue made AGE My answere is this We must make distinction betweene the ordinarie things that a Christian is bounde of necessitie to doe and those things which are permitted and graunted him by God for the refreshing and helping of his infirmitie as to ease him when he is weary to sleepe after labour and to play after long paine Ouid sayth Quid caret alterna requie durabile non est The thing cannot indure that lacketh rest And therefore the holy Scriptures whiche are the rule of good and euill maketh mention of playing and alloweth Christians so to doe Zacharie sayth And the streetes of the citie shall bee full of boyes and girles playing in the streetes thereof Also when Saint Paule sayth Whether ye eate or drinke or whatsoeuer else ye doe doe all to the glorie of god Wee maye by this worde whatsoeuer ye doe vnderstande all honest recreations which certainely is as lawfull and permitted to vs by reason of our infirmttie as is either eating drinking or sleeping when wee haue neede thereof And as our Lorde Iesus Christ sayeth That man is made for the glorie of God and therefore the Sabboth serueth for man and not man for the Sabboth so honest recreation is inuented for man and for his health which maketh vs the better and more deuout to serue god Then to playe at honest games and pastimes is a thing both indifferent and lawfull and such as are lefte to Christian libertie as Paule sayth Brethren ye haue bene called vnto libertie onelye vse not your libertie as occasion vnto the fleshe but by loue serue one another which thing must be obserued in any wise Neuerthelesse I cōfesse we ought not to abuse through too great pleasure which we take in them no more than to abuse any other thing of the lyke kinde In very deede it should seeme too great a crueltie to restraine wearied natures ouertoyled bodies that they
sorts that you speake of are to be reproued but the thirde sorte is to be commended YOVTH I praye you let me heare your iudgement hereof and first of all as you promised of the beginning and institution thereof AGE As touching the first Men of the olde time were accustomed with common vowes to sing certaine solemne ditties both when they gaue thankes to God and also when as they woulde obteyne any thing of him Wherefore Orpheus Limus Pindarus and Horace and suche like Poetes which vsed the Harpe wrote their hymnes for the most part for these vses Also in the Romane publike wealth the Priests of Mars which were called Salij caried shieldes and sang their verses through the citie Furthermore it was the manner that Musicke and verses were had when the prayses of noble men were celebrated chiefly at feastes whereby they which stoode by might be admonished to imitate their noble actes and detest suche vices which were cōtrarie vnto their vertues Moreouer they vsed them to recreate the mindes and to comfort such as were pensiue beauy and sad for the deade As Saule being heauie c. caused Dauid to playe vpon the Harpe to refresh him c. The vse hereof also we maye reade in Mathews when as Christ our Sauiour came into the Rulers house to raise vp his deade daughter the Minstrels and people were making a noyse that is according to their custome to play and sing c. Contrariwise when any great cause of ioye happened it was expressed by Musicke and songs as wee maye reade many examples hereof in the holy Scriptures as of Moyses sister Miriam Iudith Iephtah his daughter c. Likewise in weddings they were wont to playe musically and to sing wedding songs All these things if they bee done moderately and in due time are tollerable For Musicke and songs containe three kindes of good things that is honest profite and pleasantnesse For although singing of it selfe delighteth the mindes of men yet when wordes are ioyned vnto it which are of a iust number and bounde by certaine feete as Uerses are is much more pleasant And vndoubtedly Poetrie had hereof his beginning and cannot be denied but it is an excellent gift of God yet this ought to bee kept pure and chast among men bicause certaine lasciuious men haue and doe filthily defile it applying it to wantonnesse wicked lusts and euery filthie thing YOVTH Why doth Musicke so rapte and vanishe men in a maner wholy AGE The reason is playne For there are certaine pleasures which onely fill the outwarde senses and there are others also which pertaine only to the mynde or reason But Musick is a delectation so put in the middest that both by the sweetnesse of the soundes it moueth the senses and by the artificiousnesse of the number and proportions it deliteth reason it selfe And that happeneth then chiefly when such wordes are added vnto it whose sense is both excellent and learned Pithagoras opinion was that they which studied his doctrine shoulde be brought in sleepe with a harpe and by the accordes thereof also wakened whereby they might quietly enioy the time both of sleeping and waking Cicero affirmeth that rockes and wildernesses doe giue a sounde and cruell beasts by singing are assuaged and made to stande still as it is reported of the Unicorne when as men will take him they put a yong mayden into the wildernesse and when the Unicorne seeth hir he standeth still and when hee heareth the mayde sing and play on an instrument he commeth to his and sleepeth harde by hir and layth his head vpon hir lap and so the hunters kill him I may also speake howe the Poetes fable that when the walles of Thebes the citie were buylt the stones of their owne motion came togither with the founde of the Harpe And no man is ignorant what the same Poetes haue written of Arion who being taken by pyrates playing so melodiously vppon his harpe the Dolphin fishe with the great Whales delyted so muche in his Musicke that when as the Pyrates cast him into the sea the fishes caried him safely vnto the shore So haue they fayned of Orpheus And also who knoweth not howe muche Dauid here and there in his Psalmes prayseth bothe Musicke and Songs Secondly we must consider whether it may be vsed in Churches In the Cast part the holy assemblies euen from the beginning vsed singing which we maye easily vnderstande by the testimonie of Plinie in his Epistle to Traiane the Emperour where he writeth that Christians vsed to sing hymnes before day vnto their Christ and therefore were called Antelucanos coetus the morning assemblies And this is not to bee ouerslipte that these wordes were written in that time that Iohn the Euangelist liued for he was aliue vnto the time of Traian Wherefore if a man shall saye that in the time of the Apostles there was singing in holy assemblies he shall not stay from the truth Paule who was before these tymes vnto the Ephesians sayth Be not drunke with wine wherein is excesse but be filled with the spirite speaking vnto your selues in Psalmes and Hymnes and spirituall songs singing and making melodie to the Lorde in your hearts giuing thankes alwayes for all things vnto God euen the father in the name of Iesus christ To the Colossians he sayth Let the worde of Christ dwell in you plenteously in all wisedome teaching and admonishing your owne selues in Psalmes hymnes and spirituall songs singing with a grace in your hearts to the Lorde To the Corinthians he sayth When ye assemble togither according as euery one of you hath a Psalme or hath a doctrine or hath a tongue or hath reuelation or hath interpretation let all things be done vnto edifying By which wordes is declared that fingers of songs and Psalmes had their place in the Church But the west Churches more lately receyued the manner of singing for Augustine testifieth that it happened in the time of Ambrose For when that holy manne togither with the people watched in the Church least hee shoulde haue bene betrayed vnto the Arrians be brought in singing to anoyde tedrousnesse and to driue away the time But as touching the measure and nature of the song which ought to bee retayned in Musicke in the Church these things must be specially noted Saint Augustine in his booke of Confession confesseth and is also sorie that hee hadde sometime fallen bicause he had giuen more attentiue hede vnto the measures and cordes of Musicke than vnto the wordes which were vnder them spoken Which thing hereby he proueth to be sinne bicause Musicke and singing were brought in for the wordes sake and not wordes for Musicke And he so repented this his faulte that hee exceedinglye allowed the manner of the Churche of Alexandria vsed vnder Athanasius who commaunded the Reader that when he sang hee shoulde but little alter his voyce so that he