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A69533 Five disputations of church-government and worship by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1659 (1659) Wing B1267; ESTC R13446 437,983 583

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ex_fw-la lege_fw-la naturali_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la humano_fw-la aliquo_fw-la imperio_fw-la grotius_n de_fw-fr imperio_fw-la pag._n 209_o 210._o lege_fw-la &_o cap._n 9_o per_fw-la totum_fw-la totum_fw-la that_o synod_n be_v not_o absolute_o necessary_a and_o he_o think_v not_o of_o scripture_n institution_n but_o natural_a direction_n see_v grot._n d●_n imperio_fw-la cap_n 7._o per_fw-la totum_fw-la ap●stoli_n veer_fw-la erant_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la atque_fw-la ita_fw-la s●ipsos_fw-la vocant_fw-la nulli_fw-la tamen_fw-la loco_fw-la ascripta_fw-la ●●rum_fw-la functio_fw-la evangelistae_fw-la quoque_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la ●●ant_fw-la sed_fw-la nulli_fw-la loco_fw-la alligati_fw-la sic_fw-la &_o multo_fw-la post_fw-la à_fw-la demetrio_n alexandria_n episcopo_fw-la pan●aenus_n ab_fw-la athanasio_fw-la frumentius_n ordinati_fw-la missique_fw-la ut_fw-la evange●ium_fw-la per_fw-la indi●m_fw-la praedicarent_fw-la quoth_v ●odie_n quo_fw-la 〈◊〉_d vid●mus_fw-la atque_fw-la utin●m_fw-la dilig●ntius_fw-la fieret_fw-la fieret_fw-la ●rotius_fw-la de_fw-la imperio_fw-la p._n 271._o and_o of_o the_o can._n council_n calce_v 6._o against_o ordain_v presbyter_n sine_fw-la titulo_fw-la he_o say_v quum_fw-la ut_fw-la recte_fw-la notat_fw-la balsamon_n ipse_fw-la canon_n indicio_fw-la est_fw-la aliter_fw-la fieri_fw-la solitum_fw-la etiam_fw-la post_fw-la calced_fw-la synod_n justinianus_n periodentarum_fw-la meminit_fw-la quorum_fw-la &_o in_fw-la laodicenâ_fw-la aliisque_fw-la veteribus_fw-la synodis_fw-la est_fw-la mentio_fw-la ibid._n ibid._n authority_n be_v 1._o rational_a and_o of_o mere_a interest_n upon_o consenter_n 2._o imperial_a over_o dissenter_n also_o also_o if_o one_o be_v not_o mean_v of_o confirmation_n or_o give_v the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o the_o other_o of_o ordination_n which_o i_o rather_o incline_v to_o think_v essentiale_fw-la fui●_fw-la quod_fw-la ex_fw-la dei_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la perpetua_fw-la necesse_fw-la fuit_fw-la est_fw-la &_o erit_fw-la ut_fw-la presbyterio_n quispiam_fw-la &_o loco_fw-la &_o dignitate_fw-la primus_fw-la actioni_fw-la gubernandae_fw-la praesit_fw-la cum_fw-la ●o_o quoth_v ipsi_fw-la divinitus_fw-la attributum_fw-la est_fw-la jure_fw-la beza_n de_fw-fr minist_n evang._n grad_n cap._n 23._o 23._o i_o know_v bishop_n usher_n in_o his_o paper_n to_o the_o king_n do_v say_v that_o by_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n all_o presbyter_n be_v charge_v in_o the_o form_n of_o order_v of_o priest_n to_o administer_v the_o discipline_n of_o christ_n but_o the_o bishop_n understand_v that_o only_a of_o their_o publish_v their_o censure_n for_o no_o such_o administration_n be_v know_v among_o we_o or_o allow_v nor_o will_v they_o suffer_v man_n to_o suspend_v they_o from_o the_o sacrament_n as_o the_o rubric_n in_o the_o common_a prayer_n book_n require_v require_v it_o be_v a_o easy_a matter_n to_o preach_v or_o write_v a_o strict_a lesson_n but_o they_o that_o will_v practical_o when_o they_o 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inseparable_a so_o that_o its_o inseparable_a from_o a_o presbyter_n to_o have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n grot._n de_fw-fr imperio_fw-la pag._n 267._o c._n 1●_n pastorum_fw-la ergo_fw-la est_fw-la ordinare_fw-la pastor_n neque_fw-la id_fw-la officium_fw-la eye_n competit_fw-la qua_fw-la huius_fw-la au●_n illius_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la pastor_n