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A85233 A reply unto severall treatises pleading for the armes now taken up by subjects in the pretended defence of religion and liberty. By name, unto the reverend and learned divines which pleaded Scripture and reason for defensive arms. The author of the Treatise of monarchy. The author of the Fuller answer his reply. By H. Fern D.D. &c. Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1643 (1643) Wing F799; Thomason E74_9 75,846 101

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people_n see_v above_o towards_o the_o end_n of_o the_o five_o section_n that_o limitation_n of_o the_o monarch_n power_n infer_v not_o a_o power_n of_o resistance_n in_o subject_n he_o add_v to_o the_o same_o reason_n if_o a_o prince_n be_v teach_v that_o he_o may_v take_v what_o he_o pleaseath_n from_o his_o subject_n without_o be_v resist_v case_n and_o reason_n will_v soon_o be_v bring_v to_o persuade_v he_o etc._n etc._n pag._n 53._o answ_n he_o be_v not_o teach_v he_o may_v lawful_o do_v so_o but_o if_o subject_n be_v teach_v that_o they_o may_v lawful_o take_v arm_n upon_o such_o or_o such_o case_n and_o take_v from_o their_o fellow_n subject_n what_o they_o please_v to_o maintain_v those_o arm_n pretence_n and_o case_n will_v not_o be_v want_v as_o at_o this_o day_n in_o a_o word_n some_o must_v be_v final_o trust_v when_o all_o be_v do_v and_o who_o may_v better_a challenge_v it_o then_o the_o supreme_a governor_n that_o stand_v next_o to_o god_n above_o the_o people_n as_o be_v say_v above_o in_o the_o four_o rea●on_n and_o it_o be_v fit_a we_o shall_v for_o the_o redress_n of_o evil_n in_o government_n trust_v god_n and_o depend_v upon_o his_o providence_n more_o than_o these_o man_n will_v have_v we_o h●s_n three_o reason_n eccause_fw-mi such_o power_n be_v due_a to_o a_o public_a state_n for_o its_o preservation_n as_o be_v due_a to_o a_o particular_a person_n pag._n 55._o answ_n the_o proposition_n be_v not_o universal_o true_a but_o be_v thus_o far_o grant_v such_o power_n be_v due_a to_o a_o state_n for_o its_o preservation_n as_o be_v allow_v by_o the_o just_a law_n thereof_o for_o as_o the_o body_n natural_a defend_v itself_o from_o outward_a force_n by_o its_o law_n so_o the_o body_n politic_n by_o its_o law_n now_o though_o a_o particular_a person_n by_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n have_v power_n of_o self_n preservation_n against_o the_o force_n of_o another_o private_a person_n yet_o be_v this_o power_n yield_v up_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o 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be_v often_o show_v 4._o such_o near_a personal_a defence_n be_v not_o destructive_a of_o order_n but_o this_o by_o the_o civil_a contention_n of_o the_o head_n and_o body_n be_v as_o at_o this_o day_n the_o pleader_n for_o defensive_a arm_n make_v a_o long_a reply_n to_o that_o which_o in_o my_o first_o trea●_n be_v speak_v concern_v this_o personal_a defence_n the_o substance_n of_o it_o be_v first_o though_o the_o body_n natural_a can_v do_v nothing_o against_o or_o without_o the_o guidance_n of_o the_o head_n yet_o the_o body_n politic_n can_v be_v a_o company_n of_o reasonable_a man_n who_o action_n may_v be_v divide_v from_o their_o head_n pag._n 14.15_o answ_n they_o be_v reasonable_a man_n but_o as_o they_o make_v up_o the_o body_n politic_a the_o law_n be_v their_o reason_n and_o they_o can_v move_v or_o act_v further_o than_o it_o direct_v they_o nor_o can_v they_o divide_v themselves_o from_o the_o head_n to_o which_o the_o law_n join_v they_o nor_o of_o themselves_o 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