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affair_n 47._o for_o even_o there_o i_o mean_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la he_o declare_v 12._o that_o albeit_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o natural_o know_v what_o pass_v in_o earth_n neither_o be_v ordinary_o conversant_a with_o we_o yet_o they_o may_v know_v our_o action_n 9_o as_o well_o by_o the_o relation_n of_o angel_n as_o by_o divine_a revelation_n yea_o and_o that_o they_o may_v be_v present_a with_o we_o and_o help_v we_o per_fw-la divinam_fw-la potentiam_fw-la by_o divine_a power_n as_o shall_v further_o appear_v in_o the_o nine_o chapter_n where_o i_o shall_v have_v somewhat_o more_o to_o say_v to_o m._n andrew_n concern_v his_o gross_a and_o shameful_a abuse_n both_o of_o the_o cardinal_n 21._o and_o s._n augustine_n touch_v this_o place_n therefore_o whereas_o he_o also_o
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appear_v that_o he_o err_v not_o of_o ignorance_n but_o of_o mere_a malice_n and_o impugn_v a_o know_a truth_n against_o his_o own_o conscience_n and_o knowledge_n 71._o well_o then_o i_o will_v conclude_v concern_v the_o 12._o father_n allege_a by_o the_o cardinal_n epilogo_fw-la and_o i_o with_o the_o word_n of_o s._n augustine_n defend_v the_o authority_n and_o faith_n of_o 11._o father_n allege_a by_o he_o against_o julian_n the_o pelagian_n who_o desire_v to_o have_v judge_n of_o his_o cause_n his_o igitur_fw-la eloquijs_fw-la say_v s._n augustine_n andrews_n &_o tanta_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o with_o these_o testimony_n and_o so_o great_a authority_n of_o holy_a man_n either_o thou_o will_v through_o god_n mercy_n be_v cure_v which_o how_o much_o i_o desire_v he_o see_v who_o i_o beseech_v to_o work_v it_o or_o if_o which_o god_n forbid_v thou_o still_o remain_v in_o thy_o great_a folly_n for_o so_o it_o be_v though_o it_o seem_v wisdom_n 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same_o say_v i_o to_o m._n andrews_n with_o like_a hearty_a desire_n of_o this_o good_a leave_v the_o application_n of_o the_o whole_a partly_o to_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o discreet_a reader_n and_o partly_o to_o himself_o according_a to_o the_o light_n and_o feel_v he_o may_v have_v thereof_o in_o his_o own_o conscience_n 72._o it_o rest_v now_o that_o i_o say_v somewhat_o brief_o to_o certain_a trifle_a objection_n which_o he_o make_v against_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n out_o of_o origen_n s._n cyril_n and_o s._n athanasius_n athanasius_n urge_v the_o cardinal_n to_o show_v somewhat_o out_o of_o they_o to_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a and_o particular_o out_o of_o origen_n against_o celsus_n and_o s._n cyril_n against_o julian_n the_o apostata_fw-la and_o out_o of_o athanasius_n against_o the_o arian_n because_o he_o suppose_v that_o those_o father_n shall_v in_o those_o their_o treatise_n have_v teach_v that_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v lawful_a if_o 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say_v once_o of_o the_o cardinal_n 82._o to_o these_o example_n of_o his_o egregious_a impudence_n in_o this_o kind_n i_o may_v well_o add_v one_o or_o two_o other_o example_n of_o his_o impudent_a assertion_n of_o notable_a lie_n without_o allegation_n of_o author_n or_o witness_v as_o when_o he_o charge_v certain_a jesuit_n to_o have_v affirm_v or_o as_o it_o seem_v to_o have_v write_v that_o they_o commit_v no_o sin_n abannis_fw-la jesuit_n say_v he_o nescio_fw-la quot_fw-la i_o know_v not_o for_o how_o many_o year_n together_o which_o i_o dare_v bold_o affirm_v to_o be_v a_o monstrous_a lie_n i_o mean_v that_o any_o jesuit_n have_v so_o write_v or_o say_v either_o of_o himself_o or_o any_o other_o man_n for_o although_o i_o make_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o many_o jesuit_n and_o other_o good_a man_n both_o religious_a and_o secular_a by_o the_o help_n of_o god_n grace_n do_v live_v free_a from_o all_o mortal_a sin_n that_o be_v to_o say_v such_o sin_n as_o do_v utter_o deprive_v man_n of_o god_n favour_n &_o grace_n and_o deserve_v eternal_a damnation_n yet_o i_o be_o well_o assure_v that_o no_o catholyke_n will_v say_v that_o any_o man_n live_v free_a from_o all_o sin_n such_o i_o mean_v as_o be_v call_v venial_a which_o can_v not_o be_v say_v of_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o as_o s._n john_n testify_v 1_o say_v si_fw-la dixerimus_fw-la quod_fw-la peccatum_fw-la non_fw-la habemus_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o we_o say_v that_o we_o have_v no_o sin_n we_o seduce_v ourselves_o and_o truth_n be_v not_o in_o we_o and_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n also_o the_o scripture_n say_v else_o where_o 24._o septies_fw-la in_o die_fw-la cadet_fw-la iustus_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o just_a man_n shall_v fall_v seven_o time_n a_o day_n and_o shall_v rise_v again_o 83._o and_o this_o be_v so_o know_v and_o firm_o believe_v of_o all_o catholykes_n that_o it_o be_v incredible_a that_o any_o one_o who_o profess_v the_o catholic_a religion_n shall_v affirm_v of_o any_o man_n and_o 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church_n presbytery_n subject_n to_o the_o church_n submit_v their_o sceptre_n to_o the_o church_n and_o throw_v down_o their_o crown_n before_o the_o church_n and_o that_o as_o beza_n testify_v they_o can_v be_v exempt_v from_o this_o divine_a domination_n of_o the_o presbytery_n whereupon_o i_o gather_v two_o thing_n the_o one_o that_o the_o supremacy_n which_o as_o m._n andrews_n say_v the_o puritan_n do_v acknowledge_v in_o the_o king_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v only_o in_o temporal_a matter_n wherein_o they_o do_v indeed_o admit_v he_o to_o be_v their_o supreme_a head_n and_o governor_n though_o as_o you_o see_v in_o m._n rogers_n they_o hold_v he_o in_o spiritual_a matter_n to_o be_v whole_o subject_a to_o the_o presbytery_n the_o other_o be_v that_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n be_v also_o of_o the_o same_o mind_n see_v that_o they_o profess_v the_o same_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a supremacy_n that_o the_o puritan_n do_v as_o m._n andrews_n himself_o confessethâ—_n whereupon_o it_o also_o follow_v that_o the_o king_n majesty_n have_v no_o spiritual_a power_n or_o authority_n at_o all_o over_o the_o english_a church_n see_v that_o by_o m._n andrew_n his_o own_o confession_n he_o have_v no_o other_o power_n but_o that_o which_o the_o puritan_n and_o the_o reform_a church_n do_v admit_v in_o their_o temporal_a prince_n 66._o beside_o that_o albeit_o we_o shall_v grant_v that_o the_o puritan_n and_o reform_v church_n do_v allow_v the_o temporal_a magistrate_n to_o have_v some_o power_n and_o authority_n in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n yet_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o they_o do_v not_o allow_v they_o that_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n and_o authority_n king_n which_o our_o parliament_n have_v grant_v to_o our_o king_n to_o wit_n that_o all_o the_o spiritual_a power_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v reside_v principal_o in_o they_o and_o be_v to_o be_v deduce_v from_o they_o to_o the_o church_n as_o from_o the_o head_n to_o the_o body_n &_o 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majesty_n have_v no_o such_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n and_o authority_n as_o have_v be_v grant_v he_o by_o our_o parliament_n for_o that_o as_o i_o have_v say_v the_o puritan_n &_o reform_a church_n who_o doctrine_n in_o this_o point_n he_o approve_v do_v not_o acknowledge_v any_o such_o spiritual_a authority_n in_o temporal_a prince_n but_o only_o a_o temporal_a power_n and_o obligation_n to_o maintain_v and_o defend_v the_o church_n so_o far_o forth_o as_o the_o same_o have_v need_n of_o external_a and_o humane_a help_n assistance_n or_o defence_n which_o be_v indeed_o the_o self_n same_o &_o all_o that_o m._n andrew_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v 47._o before_o allow_v to_o the_o king_n majesty_n when_o he_o say_v that_o he_o be_v no_o otherwise_o over_o the_o church_n but_o as_o a_o foster-father_n &_o a_o tutor_n to_o nourish_v and_o defend_v it_o and_o that_o the_o question_n of_o the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a supremacy_n concern_v 37._o only_o the_o external_a government_n of_o the_o church_n puritan_n so_o far_o forth_o as_o it_o require_v and_o admit_v humane_a help_n and_o authority_n so_o that_o you_o see_v m._n andrews_n be_v not_o in_o this_o point_n a_o english_a protestant_n but_o rather_o a_o flat_a puritan_n 68_o and_o if_o this_o be_v now_o the_o common_a opinion_n of_o the_o protestant_n in_o england_n as_o m._n andrew_n will_v have_v we_o to_o suppose_v we_o may_v more_o true_o say_v of_o they_o prince_n than_o he_o say_v of_o the_o puritan_n dies_fw-la diem_fw-la docuit_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la eo_fw-la facti_fw-la aequiores_fw-la recognoverunt_fw-la errorem_fw-la suum_fw-la time_n have_v teach_v they_o more_o wit_n and_o so_o now_o they_o have_v recant_v their_o error_n and_o no_o marvel_n see_v that_o their_o former_a doctrine_n be_v of_o itself_o so_o absurd_a &_o have_v be_v so_o canuass_v &_o batter_v by_o catholic_n that_o they_o be_v worthy_o ashamed_a of_o it_o especial_o such_o of_o they_o as_o have_v any_o learning_n or_o shame_n at_o all_o for_o some_o no_o doubt_n there_o be_v of_o the_o ministry_n that_o will_v not_o stick_v to_o defend_v it_o or_o any_o thing_n else_o how_o absurd_a soever_o it_o be_v among_o who_o m._n barlow_n may_v go_v for_o one_o who_o in_o his_o preambler_n epistle_n to_o the_o minister_n of_o scotland_n which_o i_o have_v mention_v before_o upon_o another_o occasion_n be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o make_v the_o pagan_a 77._o and_o infidel_n emperor_n supreme_a head_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o s._n paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n judgement_n as_o the_o supreme_a whereas_o papist_n and_o puritan_n will_v have_v the_o king_n to_o be_v but_o a_o honourable_a member_n not_o a_o chief_a governor_n in_o the_o church_n of_o his_o dominion_n so_o he_o 69._o wherein_o two_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v note_v the_o one_o that_o he_o do_v ridiculous_o make_v the_o pagan_a emperor_n the_o chief_a member_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o head_n or_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n who_o nevertheless_o be_v idolatour_n can_v not_o be_v so_o much_o as_o the_o mean_a member_n thereof_o the_o other_o that_o he_o seem_v to_o make_v the_o king_n majesty_n no_o other_o wise_a chief_a governor_n in_o the_o church_n than_o they_o be_v albeit_o i_o think_v he_o will_v not_o be_v so_o absurd_a as_o to_o acknowledge_v any_o spiritual_a authority_n in_o they_o be_v see_v they_o be_v altogether_o uncapable_a thereof_o be_v as_o i_o have_v say_v idolatour_n enemy_n and_o violent_a persecutor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o faith_n of_o christ._n so_o as_o hereby_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o also_o concur_v with_o m._n andrews_n to_o deprive_v his_o majesty_n of_o all_o the_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n and_o authority_n which_o the_o parliament_n have_v grant_v to_o our_o king_n and_o that_o consequent_o they_o be_v both_o of_o they_o in_o one_o predicament_n of_o disloyalty_n towards_o his_o majesty_n and_o defection_n from_o the_o wont_a protestantisme_n of_o england_n in_o the_o point_n of_o the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a supremacy_n 70._o now_o then_o to_o conclude_v concern_v they_o both_o &_o all_o the_o premise_n thou_o have_v see_v good_a reader_n how_o well_o these_o two_o prelate_n of_o the_o english_a church_n do_v symbolize_v &_o agree_v not_o only_o in_o seek_v to_o delude_v their_o reader_n with_o divers_a lie_n fraudulent_a shift_n and_o device_n but_o also_o in_o betray_v their_o own_o cause_n and_o fortify_v we_o which_o be_v so_o evident_a in_o they_o both_o that_o they_o may_v well_o be_v account_v the_o most_o harmless_a or_o rather_o the_o most_o propitious_a enemy_n that_o ever_o the_o catholic_n have_v and_o therefore_o may_v in_o some_o sort_n be_v compare_v to_o the_o scorpion_n which_o be_v a_o most_o venomous_a serpent_n why_o yield_v a_o sufficient_a remedy_n against_o his_o own_o poison_n and_o so_o do_v they_o for_o albeit_o they_o be_v replenish_v with_o venom_n and_o malignity_n yea_o and_o sting_v sometime_o most_o malicious_o not_o with_o solid_a argument_n but_o with_o spiteful_a gibe_n and_o contumelious_a jest_n yet_o their_o malice_n do_v common_o carry_v with_o it_o the_o remedy_n of_o itself_o be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n so_o manifest_a and_o accompany_v with_o such_o apparent_a falsehood_n and_o evident_a folly_n that_o no_o man_n of_o learning_n and_o consideration_n can_v receive_v any_o harm_n thereby_o but_o rather_o great_a benefit_n by_o the_o discovery_n of_o their_o imbecility_n &_o the_o weakness_n of_o their_o causeâ—_n see_v they_o can_v otherwise_o defend_v it_o then_o by_o such_o contumelious_a and_o malicious_a proceed_n 71._o insomuch_o that_o the_o learned_a stranger_n who_o read_v m._n andrew_n his_o book_n in_o latin_a bellarmine_n and_o do_v consider_v withal_o the_o special_a choice_n that_o the_o english_a clergy_n have_v make_v of_o he_o to_o maintain_v the_o combat_n against_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n in_o the_o eye_n and_o view_v of_o the_o christian_a world_n 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exceed_o wonder_v as_o well_o at_o the_o penury_n of_o learned_a divine_n in_o england_n as_o at_o their_o want_n of_o judgement_n in_o venture_v the_o credit_n of_o their_o cause_n upon_o so_o weak_a a_o champion_n who_o valour_n consist_v in_o nothing_o else_o but_o in_o certain_a thrasonical_a brag_v satirical_a scoff_n and_o a_o vain_a presumption_n of_o his_o latin_a stile_n obscurityâ—_n which_o nevertheless_o seem_v to_o learned_a man_n more_o fit_a for_o a_o comical_a or_o satyriall_a poet_n them_z for_o a_o doctor_n of_o divinity_n wherein_o also_o they_o observe_v such_o obsurdityâ—_n that_o they_o hold_v it_o for_o no_o less_o vicious_a in_o a_o divine_a writing_n of_o matter_n in_o controversy_n than_o it_o will_v be_v in_o a_o orator_n or_o advocate_n plead_v a_o cause_n in_o who_o nothing_o be_v more_o requisite_a than_o perspicuity_n and_o therefore_o quintilian_n great_o reprehend_v such_o as_o affect_v a_o extraordinary_a brevity_n necessaria_fw-la subtrahunt_fw-la 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