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A41786 The quæries examined, or, Fifty anti-queries seriously propounded to the people called Presbyterians Occasioned by the publication of Fifty queries, gathered out of the works of Mr. Rich. Baxter. By J. B. Wherein the principal allegations usually brought to support infant-baptism are discovered to be insufficient. By T. G. Grantham, Thomas, 1634-1692. 1676 (1676) Wing G1543A; ESTC R223637 27,933 56

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unawares serve the design of the great enemy and whether you are not guilty of the fault wherewith you would charge us P●esbyterian 48. Whether too many well-meaning but weak Christians are not disaffected to lawful and warrantable things in the Worship of God meerly because they see such as are ungodly use and own them And whether if God should but let us have a King and other Rulers that were against Infant-Baptism and singing of Psalmes c. and would make Laws for their own way and impose it on others so that the ungodly multitude should fall in with them it would not presently cure many that are now for such Opinions Baptist Antiqu. 48. Whether many but weak Christians would hold to the errou● of Infant-sprinkling but meerly because J. B. and Mr. Baxter c. do so And whether this be not as much weakness of the one hand as the case put by you on the other and whether both ought not to be amend●d And whether the latter part of this Query do not shew that to follow the greatest number is not always the best way And why then would you discourage us by our Paucity And whether such Confiderations might not have discouraged the Apostles seeing they were to alter the state of Religion in the Jewish Church yea throughout the whole world Presbyterian Query 49. Whether Mr. Baxter in the second and third part of that his second defence of our Infants Rights have not sufficiently detected the great and notorious untruths in Fact and History wherewith Mr. H. D. Treatise of Baptism and Reply to Mr. Willes is fully stuffed Baptist Antiqu 49. Whether Mr. D. and Mr. Tombes have not sufficiently detected Mr. Baxters mistakes in many of his Works 〈◊〉 Infant-baptism and particularly in Mr. Tombes his Felo de se Also whether Mr. Wills exceptions against Mr. D. are not well foiled by Mr. D. in his twofold Defence of his Treatise of Baptism And whether Mr. Baxter did ever yet or ever will accept of Mr. Tombes his serious Challenge lately made in these words I Challenge him to set down distinctly his Theses concerning the Grace he meanes the Covenant of Grace what and whose it is how it is bap iswal what are the rights and benefits conferred to Infants by it using words in their proper sence and genuine notions and then without Questions Exclamations Flirts Suppositions improved set down his Scriptures and form his Arguments substantially --- and then I doubt not but learned and accurate Disputants will see his folly c. Postscript to Mr. D. second Reply p. 267. Presbyterian Query 50. Whether the Anabaptists schism or separation from Communion with our Churches be not worse yet then their simple Opinion And whether it be not desirable and possible that some may be found out and terms laid down in which good and sober men on both sides would agree and hold Communion Baptist. Antiqu. 50. Whether the Papists may not on fairer Grounds Query thus with the Protestantt then you can do with us especially when the Cause you manage against us is so doubtful in the judgement of its best friends as we shewed in our Preface and here we shall further add what Mr. Y. notes in his first Reply p. 126. Mr. Chillingworth saith he in his Answer to Knot 's Charity maintain'd part 1. c. 3. § 44. p. 152. saith The doctrine of Infant-baptism is of that sort of which the Scripture is silent And the Oxford-Divines in their Reasons os the present Judgement of the University c. June 1. 1674. Do. sect 4. p. 9. say That without the Consent Judgment and Practice of the universal Church which they distinguish from the Scriptures they should be at a loss when they are called upon for proof of the baptizing Infants Now this considered with what Dr. Taylor saith Dissuasive from Popery p. 118. That it is certain there is no universal or prime Tradition for baptizing infants then whether you may not more securely forbear baptizing your Infants till endowed with knowledge and faith then to do it without And in the mean time retain your opinion about their being in the Covenant of Grace and let Christs Ministers or your selves pray for them after the example of Christ And whether this might not be a more likely way for a lasting Peace between the Baptists and the Pedobaptists and more consonant to the Scriptures then the way propounded by you And seeing it shall come into your hearts to make some Overtures for peace we desire you would prosecute that needful Work And whether it may not better be done by personal Conference in a friendly and Christian manner then by writing Books one to another And whether the Baptists have not offered this and bin rejected by you in such their tenders of friendship May these Queries and Antiqueries have an effectual tendency to the increase of Love and Chirstian Friendship and if not whether it had not been better they had been unwritten FINIS The Postscript Shewing that Infant-baptism is contrary to the Command of Christ REceiving lately in Writing a Proposition from a Minister of the Church of England to which I sent him certain Arguments to prove what is denied in the said Proposition I shall here offer the same to Consideration The Proposition is this Prop. Infant-baptism is not contrary to the Command of Christ Contra. Infant-baptism is contrary to the Command of Christ Arg. 1. If Infant-baptism be not contrary to the Command of Christ then it is of divine Institution But Infant-baptism is not of divine Institution Ergo Infant-baptism is contrary to the Command of Christ The Major is true because there is only one Baptism instituted by Christ The Minor is true because no man can shew any divine Institution of Infant-baptism Arg. 2. If infant-baptism be not contrary to the Command of Christ then it agrees with Christs Commission for the perpetuity of Baptism Mat. 28. 19. But Infant-baptism is not agreeable to the Commission from the perpetuity of Baptism Mat. 28. 19. Ergo Infant-baptism is contrary to the Command of Christ The Major is true because Christ commanded nothing contrary to his own Commission The Minor is true sith no man can shew any Agreement between the Commission and Infant-baptism Arg. 3. If infant baptism be not contrary to the Command of Christ then it is agreeable to the practice of the Apostolical Churches But infant-baptism is not agreeable to the practice of the Apostolical Churches Ergo Infant-baptism is contrary to the Command of Christ The Major i● true because the Apostolical Church did observe all that Christ commanded in the case of baptism The Minor is true because no man can shew the Apostolical churches did baptize so much as one Infant Arg. 4. If infant-baptism be not contrary to the Command of Christ then it is the baptism of Repentance for Remission of sin But infant-baptism is not the baptism of repentance for remission of sins Ergo Infant-baptism is contrary to the Command of Christ The Major is true because christ commanded no baptism but the baptism of repentance for Remission of sins Acts 2. 38. and Eph. 4. 5. The Minor is true because Infants have all the Remission needful in Infancy without repentance else they can have no Remission Arg. 5. That which hath in a great measure and naturally tends wholly to make void the baptism commanded by Christ is contrary to the Command of Christ But infant-baptism hath in a great measure and naturally tends wholly to make void the baptism commanded by Christ Ergo infant-baptism is contrary to the Command of Christ The Major is true because Christ commands nothing to make void his own command The Minor is true for where Infant-baptism is generally rcceived there believers baptism ceaseth Arg. 6. If infant-baptism be as unreasonable as to baptise persons when they are asleep or dead then it is contrary to the Command of Christ But infant-baptism is as unreasonable as to baptize persons when they are asleep or dead Ergo Infant-baptism is contrary to the command of Christ The Major is true because Christ commanded nothing that is unreasonable I mean that which is really so according to truth and not in mans judgement only The Minor is true first becaufe those who baptize Infant● do usually do it when they are a●leep Secondly because the Grounds usually insisted on for infantbaptism will as well justifie the baptizing Persons asleep or dead ● mean such only as have known and believed in the Lord Jesus yea the Scripture may seem according to Interpreters to hint some such thing to have been done in the Christian Church and he not approve it but no such intimation touching any Infant Arg. 7. That practice which renders the practice of Christ and his true followers who were baptized in Rivers or much water superfluous or ridiculous and which agreeth not with the word baptize when used in the New Testament to express the Act done in that Ordinance is contrary to the Command of Christ But the sprinkling of Infants now used by the Presbyterians renders the practice of Christ and his true followers who were baptized in Rivers or much water supersluous or ridiculous and agreeth not with the signification of the word Baptize when used to express according to the New Testament the Act done in that Ordinance Ergi Infant-baptism is contrary to the command of Christ T●e Major is evident because Christ would command nothing to reflect dishonour upon his own practice The Minor is true because if sprinkling a little water on the face only be su●ficient then immersion or dipping in the River must needs be superfluous c. neither can the word Baptize and Rantize with any equity of speech or good sence be used to ezpress the same action Thus though we justly refuse infant-baptism because no man can prove it commanded by Christ yet that we may more effectually perswade our Countreymen to admit of the restoration of this Ordinance to pristine integrity we have offered these Arguments to shew how contrary to Christs Command is that darling Tradition os Pedobaptism FINIS From the institution of baptism From the institution of Bapt●sm From the practice of the first Church From the necessity of Repentance where sin is washed away baptismally From the ill consequence of Infant-baptism For the unreasonableness therof From the dishonour i● offereth to Christs practice
c. And whether he was not about 30 years when he entred in our Profession Heb. 3. 3. The Apostle and High Priest of our Profession Christ Jesus See Luke 3. And then whether his example be not flat against you Also whether Christs only praying for Infants and not baptizing them though brought to him neither ordering any other to do it that we reade of do not shew us that Infants may be under the blessings of Christ without baptism And whether you may not tremble to presume to do more then he did or appointed to be done Are you wiser then he Also whether it lies within the power of any Minister to disciple an Infant or shew us one Infant with you or any Pedo-baptist ever made a disciple or be pleased to come and make my Infants disciples if you can and I promise you I will assist you what I can in the baptizing them and not only so but do my best to employ you elsewhere I speak it seriously And whether this would not do more to decide the Controversie then all the Books that are written by any of you and if you cannot do this how will Matth. 28. 19. warrant you to baptize Infants sith its plain that discipling goes before baptizing and how disciples are to be made we think it best to learn of Jesus John 4. 3. How think you Do you indeed believe that any person being of the Nation entitles them to● b●ptism why then who is not a fit subject seeing all Infants ●nd men too are of one Nation or another and if there be other Qualifications necessary whether to be taught be not one of the chief of them and why do you say we take Infants away from Christs Church because we baptize them not are they in it before baptized if so how do we take them away Presbyterian Query 44. In summ whether 1. God would not have Parents devote their children to him and enter them according to their capacity in his Covenant 2. Whether also he doth not accept into his Covenant all that are faithfully thus devoted to him and be not peculiarly their God that such children are holy 3. Whether they are not as certainly Members according to an Infant-capacity of the visible Church as they are of all Kingdoms under Heaven 4. Whether there be not far more hope of their salvation then of those without 5. Whether the Covenant doth not make their salvation certain if they so die 6. Whether the Invest●ure and Solemnization of their Covenant with Christ should not be made in Infancy c Baptist Antiqu. 44. In summ 1. Whether we do not as much to our Infants in our capacity as Christ did to the Infants which were brought to him and will not that sati●fie unless we go from him to follow you And as to the business of the Covenant let us hear what Mr. Baxter saith More R●●s p. 86. All Mankind is brought by Christ under a Covenant of Grace which is not vain or repealed by God but as their abuse of the grace of the Covenant may cast them out for as a Covenant of entire Nature was made with all mankind in innocent Adam so a Covenant of grace was made with all mankind in lapsed Adam Gen. 3. 15. in the Promised Seed and renewed again with all ma●kind in Noah c. And now we ask whether our Infants according to this account of the Covenant of Grace be not in it without bapti●m fith they have not abused the grace of the Covenant and whether baptism be not far more proper when after they have corrupted themselves by sin they come to humiliation and so to enter into this Covenant upon the termes of the Gospel Whether your Exposition of the universal Church upon Mat. 28. 19. do take in the Practice of the Apostles in pursuance of that Commission to the Acts of the Apostles and the Exposition of the Baptists and if not then you either deny us to be of the universal Church or else you have not the Exposition of the Church universal Presbyterian Query 45. How inconsiderable a Part of the universal Church do the Anabaptists hold Communion with And do they not unchurch almost all the Churches on Earth may we not think that they rob Christ of more them nine Parts of ten of his Kingdom or Church universal V. p. 305. Baptist Antiqu. 45. Whether upon Luthers revolt from the Pope you were not upbraided with holding communion with an inconsiderable part of the universal Church why do you take up the Papists weapons Did not that pious man that succoured Athanasius in the time of the Arrian persecution answer the Objection well when he said The cause of truth is not therefore empaired because I am alone --- Glory not therefore in multitudes for it is not the multitude but the cause that justifieth or condemneth Also whether we may not also conclude that many are of the universal Church which do not communicate with us or your selves and yet whether the separation from many Pedobaptists will not justifie our separation from you more clearly Presbyterian Query 46. Whether they can possibly hop● that ever the Church on Earth will unite upon their terms of rejecting all their Infants from the visible Church and renouncing all our Infant-Rights and Benefits conferred by the Baptismal Covenant of Grace Baptist Antiqu. 46. Whether this be in effect to say What will these feeble Jews do And why may we not hope that this great mistake of yours may vanish as well as that great mistake of Austin and the generality of men prosessing Christianity who brought Infants also to the Lords Table and that for many hundreds of years together and defended it by as plaufible reasons as any you have for baptizing them Could God reform so great and general an errour forced on by Learning and Authority of eminent men And shall we think this thing only too hard for God our small number shall not make us doubt for we know God doth great things by small means And what Baptismal grace do we desire you to renounce when we only defire you to mend an errour Did the twelve disciples Acts 19. renounce any baptismal grace when according to the Interpretation of the Ancients they were baptized again Surely Reformation is no errour Presbyterian Query 47. And whether if they continue to the Worlds end to separate from almost all the Churches and unchurch them their Employment will not be still to serve the great Enemy of Love and Concord against the Lord of Love and Peace and against the Profperity of Faith and Godliness and against the welfare of the Church and Souls and to the scandal and hardning of the ungodly Baptist Antiqu. 47. Whether the separation is not justly chargeable upon those which cause divisions and offences by asserting and maintaining such errours as being admitted the way of God must be corrupted or laid aside and whether these are not the men that at least