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A03418 A letter to Mr. T.H. late minister: now fugitiue: from Sir Edvvard Hoby Knight. In answere of his first Motiue Hoby, Edward, Sir, 1560-1617. 1609 (1609) STC 13541; ESTC S104131 47,450 130

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A LETTER TO Mr. T. H. LATE MINISTER Now Fugitiue FROM SIR EDVVARD HOBY Knight IN ANSWERE OF HIS first Motiue HEBR. 3.12 Take heed Brethren lest at any time there be in any of you an euill heart and vnfaithfull to depart away from the liuing God AT LONDON Imprinted by F. K. for Ed. Blount and W. Barret and are to be sold at the signe of the blacke Beare in Pauls Church-yard 1609. Rom. 16. v. 17.18 Now I beseech you Brethren marke them diligentlie which cause diuision and offences contrarie to the doctrine which you haue learned and auoid them For they that are such serue not the Lord Iesus Christ but their owne bellies and with faire speech and flattering deceiue the hearts of the simple TO ALL ROMISH COLLAPSED LADIES of Great Britanie COmmiserable Ladies this my Letter to M. T. H. lay a while vpon my hands for want of a conuenient messenger at last by conference with a Merchant of Dunkerke J vnderstood there was no way sooner to conuey it to S. Omers then by your Ladiships meanes as hauing weekely newes from the English house which wil hardly admit any stranger to cōfer with her new Proselytes whom she masketh vnder counterfeit names Might J therefore be secured by the priuiledge of your fauors not to haue it intercepted by any Iesuiticall superuisor you shall giue mee iust cause to pay you the tribute of my best seruice J am the bolder to solicite you herein for as much as I first came to the view of his Motiue by one of your neere followers who gaue me also to vnderstand how great those Iesuites are in your books Had I no other thing to write these tidings would yet haue set my pen on worke Jn sooth my respectiue care of your welfare enforceth me exceedingly to grieue that you who haue been baptized since the superstitious Romish Rites were abolished hauing seene this inuincible faith now fully setled being so noblie descended and religiously trained vp should so prostrate your selues to that Antichristian beast whose spotted skin and alluring sent leadeth into the den of destruction I could wish his Seminaries had lesse subtiltie or you more constancy You may wel thinke were their grounds of such soundnes as they beare you in hand they would not so busilie swarme about your sexe which by reason of your lesse abilitie of iudgement is soonest inueigled with their wiles Your own Prateolus hath giuen them an hint of the eagernes of your affection of the pitifulnes of your inclination what fit instruments you are both for your sundrie opportunities and many intelligēces to serue their turne so that if they once win the night-crow to sing their dittie then make they no doubt but that the whole house will soone dance after their pipe Hauing once diued into your secrets discontents qualities and affaires it cannot be long before they rule the rost Scire volunt secreta Domus atque indè timeri they wil make you sure for slipping the colar without some great disaduantage Jf they find in any of you quicknes of spirit boldnes of stomacke or volubtiltie of speech she shall be employed as their Agent as not long since some of you haue been though in vaine vnto two noble personages now deceased to deale with such whom either crosses haue distracted or sicknes weakened where they themselues can haue no accesse by which meanes their infection spreadeth it selfe on euery side Hence it is that throughly to possesse themselues of your fauour they will pretermit neither time nor meanes yea they will not stick to set out our Ladies picture as one of your sprite-speakers did with one of your best faces if that may gaine your assent VVhat will be the issue of this your blind and factious zeale J refer me to your selues Js there any hope you should euer be better resolued as long as you must neither pollute your eyes with our bookes defile your eares with our Sermons nor grace our Churches with your presence You much trouble your selues about the Antiquitie of our Church which you are no lesse vnable to conceiue then vnwilling to beleeue J would to God you would not be wise aboue that which is fit Quid quod libelli Stoici inter sericos iacere puluillos amant S. Paul teacheth you to aske not to grieue your husbands at home Salomon would haue you giue the portion to the houshold the ordinarie to the maids to open your mouths with wisdom and to haue the law of grace in your tongue Then should your husbands be knowne in the gates when they sit amongst the Elders of the Land VVhereas now being kindled with those hellish Mercurialists the flame of this your intemperate zeale presageth nay threatneth the vtter desolation of your whole stocke Might it please you to consider the infinite expence which these chargeable encrochers the Iesuitical drones sucke out of your estates your monethlie checker-payments the danger of forfetting your ioyntures the incapabilitie of suing in any of his Maiesties Courts the griefe of your neere Allies and deare friends for the declining hopes of your ruinous posteritie or at the least your owne infamie wherewith you are generally branded your houses being held as nurseries of poisonous weeds and pestilent plants your tenants and attendants promising no great safetie to the King nor peace to the State nor tranquillitie to the Church Might it J say please you to ponder these things aright it is vnpossible you should be so inconsiderate as to buy a fantasticall J will not say a fanaticall humour at so high a rate VVhy should you be so respectlesse of those worthy Gentlemen your husbāds as to cause their honors to be eclipsed their loyalty suspected and their aduancement hindred by your recusancie How do you think he should be reputed wise who can no better order his owne house How should he be held fit for gouernment in the State who cannot bring those that are so neere him to the conformitie of the Church How these things may affect you J can not tell happily as you generallie distaste all that is not of your owne stampe you will passe them ouer with a disdainefulleie still staining your selues with your owne works and going a whoring with your owne inuentions Herein shall you more harme your selues then hurt me who for my friendly aduertisement desire no other be one then the deliuerie of this letter enclosed Fare you well From my house in the Blackfriars May 20. 1609. Edward Hoby A LETTER TO Mr. T.H. LATE MINISTER NOW FVGITIVE FROM SIR EDVVARD HOBY Knight in answer of his first Motiue MAster Theophilus Higgons a Ecclesiast cap. 12. v. 12. Faciendi plures libros nullus est finis There is none end in making many bookes and as Plures so no age euer afforded tam inermes inertes as this doth among which I lighted vpon a book of yours entituled The first Motiue of T. H. Master of Artes and lately Minister
Francis only brother to Henrie 3. of France Records of the Parl. of Paris about Salcedo c. Prince of worthie memorie whose Diademe had not the Leaguers practises immaturely preuented our hope would haue been inferior to none During which my attendance I was often vpon x 4. King 5.19 necessarie duties both in field and in Court a present spectator of those Romish Rites to which he was then formerly addicted Yet whether it were my parents education or the gouernment of our State or the wandring humor of youth I cannot well tell but well I wot my considerations did more superficiallie slide ouer those toies then of late yeers they haue done When as being commanded by the King my Master to wait vpon a most Noble y Edward Earle of Hertford 1605. Personage whose religious worthie and bountiful cariage hath enriched our countrie with his eternall fame in his embassie to a most puissant prudent pious a Arch D.D. Princesse Cuius idaea Valesia mihi semper sacra I was careful to make that iournie as beneficiall to my experience as the time would permit Amongst many other occurrences as the view of the bleeding VVafer-cake c. I did not omit to informe my iudgement with sight of many your Masses both priuat and publicke wherein my eies discouered more anticke and iugling trickes then my eares had euer heard or my heart could otherwise haue beleeued In so much that as two of my selected b Antony Bright Edmond Lanksion people still present can yet witnesse my eares glowed Such hallowed perfumes as if the Priest or his idol had been scarce sweete such c Leaue your ducks your tuckes your apish to●es and serue God in spirit and truth facings such knocking 's such adorings yea and such eleuating as neuer was nor yet is in the Greeke mother Church vntil this day I am bold to make my owne experience an inducement to bring you vnfortunate Countriman to the consideration of that which otherwise by reason of your corrupted affection you would happilie not so carefullie obserue I will yet goe one step further that you may the better perceiue what comfort you are like to find at your last gaspe by that religion That deare Prince my first Master of whom I am glad to make so worthie mention hauing been trained from his infancie in the tract of his forefathers though in some d For Viue la Messe temerarie enterprises in his young yeares that neuer told thirty by trust of his enough aged but humorous counsellours seduced did yet through the whole course of his life find such weakenesse in those grounds which you now hold that at his death at Chaterthyerrie when there was no longer dallying he would admit neither Priest nor Confessor into his presence making publicke profession before those that were then present that he had sufficientlie confessed to God and that he had placed the whole hope of his saluation vpon Jesus Christ the Redeemer and Sauiour of the world The like did that thrice-excellent and renowned Princesse now in glorie Marie Queene of Scotland and Dowager of France make at her last end that She hoped to be saued by the merits of Christ alone And if present Agents of Princes may be credited it was euen so with that ouer-blindly deuout Hen. 3. whom your diabolicall Friar for the poore Kings loue to Friars massacred I will not say martyrized This was also the acknowledgement of Stephen Gardener a man of e Nephew to a Queene of England and Cosin German to a King à latre higher descent then commonlie reputed whē a reuerend Bishop told him that he must look to be saued by Christ alone Yea my Lord quoth he it is so indeede but if you open that gap to the people it will goe wrong with the Church Long were the three forenamed Worthies grounded in the Romish schoole and of as deepe iudgement as most of their Ancestors and yet you see when they had cast vp all their accounts there was neither Purgatorie nor works of supererogation would doe any good the summa totalis in their bookes was Christ Jesus As for all other your superstitious trash it will be as the morning deaw in the heate of that last conflict all your other helpes and hopes will bee blowne away like a spiders webbe Now were it not an indecorum to descend from a consideration of so great moment which if your heart bee not sealed I should say seared with a hot iron out of Satans forge cannot but bee very forceable in your relenting thoughts I would also willinglie acquaint you what small encouragemēts are like to attend your temporall life And the rather because it was this ignis fatuus which led you into those bogs wherein you are now bemired What your entertainment hath hitherto been I find f Pag. 96. you haue no great cause to make any great boast What it will be in these daies of peace your grand Superintendents wanting worke for themselues you may easilie iudge Policie will teach thē not to repose too much trust in him who g Proditionem non Proditorē hath defiled his owne nest Common sense will informe them that he whom miserie hath drawne to them will serue them the like slipperie tricke and by equiualent discontents be soone driuen from them Reason likewise may tell you they will neuer hold him a fit Churchman whom they know to bee a h Vir vxorius womans mā Were there no other rub but this yet mee thinks your mariage should lay an impossibilitie to the charge of your groundlesse hopes Did I say your marriage nay your experience which can informe you of few or none of your Apostaticall forerunners whose age did reape the haruest which their youthfull yeeres had sowne After they had once serued i Spem pretio non emas Antichrists turne to stop their mouthes from any cofer-demaunds they were set in the forefront of the battell as mercenarie souldiers and kept at such a bay as that Tyrants vassals who at euery beck tumbled thēselues downe from the top of a tower to shew their obedience You must haue more skil then your predecessors if you will fetch sweet water out of so salt a sea or grapes from thornes or figges from such thistles You may flatter your selfe as you please but Res tibi ad Restim redibit planissimè In stead of a Prelate of their Church they will make you a martyr in their red l Non equidem inuideo Kalender Thus shall you be faine to close vp a miserable life with a despicable and dismall end My earnest and hearty desire of your recouery from this your Lethargie hath made me somewhat more prolixe then the bounds of a letter will well endure The short is I haue cast my pen as Protogenes did his pencell If it hath fallen right it is well howsoeuer I am m Inuitum qui seruat