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A50442 The antiquity of the royal line of Scotland farther cleared and defended, against the exceptions lately offer'd by Dr. Stillingfleet, in his vindication of the Bishop of St. Asaph by Sir George Mackenzie ... Mackenzie, George, Sir, 1636-1691. 1686 (1686) Wing M150; ESTC R11636 78,633 233

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