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A39312 Truth prevailing and detecting error, or, An answer to a book mis-called, A friendly conference between a minister and a parishioner of his, inclining to Quakerism, &c. by Thomas Ellwood. Ellwood, Thomas, 1639-1713. 1676 (1676) Wing E630; ESTC R15648 157,165 374

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matter_n i_o be_o in_o some_o sort_n oblige_v as_o a_o respondent_fw-la to_o observe_v the_o content_n chap._n i._o of_o the_o present_a ministry_n the_o cause_n of_o the_o people_n not_o profit_v inquire_v some_o reason_n of_o it_o give_v page_n 1_o chap._n ii_o of_o use_v the_o word_n thou_o to_o a_o single_a person_n p._n 27._o chap._n iii_o of_o title_n and_o civil_a respect_n as_o they_o be_v call_v p._n 31._o chap._n iu._n of_o confession_n p._n 50._o chap._n v._o of_o perfection_n p._n 54._o chap._n vi_o of_o swear_v p._n 100_o chap._n vii_o of_o take_v text_n study_v sermon_n and_o sell_v they_o to_o the_o people_n p._n 196._o chap._n viii_o of_o humane_a learning_n divine_a inspiration_n and_o revelation_n p._n 205._o chap._n ix_o of_o tithe_n p._n 277._o errata_fw-la the_o reader_n be_v desire_v before_o he_o read_v the_o book_n to_o correct_v with_o his_o pen_n the_o follow_v mistake_v of_o the_o press_n other_o of_o less_o moment_n as_o mis-pointings_a mis-placing_a of_o 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