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A34987 A backslider reproved and his folly made manifest and his confusions and contradictions discovered in a short reply to a book lately published by Robert Cobbet called A word to the upright, who being turned from the light now makes it his work to war against it and them that walk in it; but his weapons are broken and in his own snare is he taken / written for the Truths sake by a servant thereof known by the name Stephen Crisp ; unto which is added a brief answer to a pamphelet [sic] stiled A brief discovery of the labourers in mystery Babylon. Crisp, Stephen, 1628-1692.; Atkinson, Elizabeth. Breif and plain discovery of the labourers in mistery, Babilon, generally called by the name of Quakers.; Travers, Anne. Harlots vail rent and her impudency rebuked.; Coleman, Elisabeth. Harlots vail rent and her impudency rebuked. 1669 (1669) Wing C6925; ESTC R29284 17,630 26

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A Backslider Reproved AND His Folly made manifest and his Confusions and Contradictions Discovered In a short Reply to a Book lately published by Robert Cobbet called A Word to the Upright who being turned from the Light now makes it his work to war against it and them that walk in it But his Weapons are broken and in his own snare is he taken Written for the Truths sake by a Servant thereof known by the Name Stephen Crisp Prov. 10.18 He that hideth hatred with lying lips and he that uttereth a slander is a fool Vers 21. The lips of the Righteous feed many but Fools die for want of wisdom Chap. 12.2 A good man obtaineth favour with the Lord but a man of wicked devices will be condemn Unto which is added A brief Answer to a Pamphelet stiled A brief Discovery of the Labourers in MYSTERY BABYLON Printed in the year 1669. A Back-slider Reproved and his Folly made manifest and his Confusions and Contradictions discovered IT is not a new nor strange thing to see the old Enemy of the Light viz. the Prince of Darkness to be diligent in raising up as high Mountains and Towers as he can to keep it from shining and as he can bring forth no evil to man of himself without some Instrument into which he gets an entrance therefore he is diligent in perswading and tempting from the Light even those that have seen the Appearance of it and not become so subject to it as they should have been whose foolish hearts he darkens and fills their minds with vain imaginations and then are they choice Instruments for his purpose as bearing something more of his Image who himself abode not in the Truth than others And such as these he alwayes spurred on in a blind zeal against the Light as that which was most destructive to his and their works of darkness And among this sort of Instruments here is one Robert Cobbet hath presented himself as an enemy to the Doctrine of the Light though he is indeed but as one of the meanest and shattredest of that Camp and hath attain'd to but a small measure of that subtilty which this Father and Prince of Darkness doth use to furnish his children withal that are capable to receive it But however what he hath or thinketh he hath he hath adventured to present to publick view though indeed it is as a Rod for his own chastisement and I heartily wish there be so much sense left in him that he may feel the smart of it and may amend and leave off his folly and blind zeal and submit to that which comprehends him his spirit and work For I knew a time when he could not have believed that he should have been led to such a depth of Confusion in opposing the Light as now he is though he was never faithful to it as he ought but sought in his fallen corruptible wisdom to have comprehended it but I desire he may yet see a death upon that which hath unto this day kept his soul in death and darkness and in order thereunto and for the Truths sake I have written these few lines briefly to shew him and others his Confusions Contradictions and Absurdities or at least a few of those many which he hath uttered and Printed in his Book called A Word to the Upright c. And therefore Reader take notice that after his Book called God's Truth attested was made publick and something was written in Answer thereto shewing him how he contradicted himself and the Scriptures too in a seeming Reply thereto he published this called A Word to the Upright which he saith is to establish them in these erring dayes and to keep the young sprouts of the Nation from corruption in Opinion which whether R. C. hath written a piece that is likely to prove an establishing of the upright from Error or to prevent the young sprouts from corruption in principle or opinion will more appear anon to the considerate Reader when he hath rightly weighed the Consequences of letting in all his Doctrines for truth whether it will not render them more like to distracted men than principl'd Christians At my first sight of this Book it rose in my heart to write somthing in Answer to it and to take off the reproach which he hath endeavoured to cast upon the blessed Truth and Way of God which he hath turned his back upon but when I came to make a diligent search into the matter I found much of that labour spared the most part of his Doctrines being answered and confuted by himself in the same Book so that it might have been called Robert Cobbet answering and confuting Robert Cobbet as will appear in this ensuing rehearsal of his Doctrines and Principles And therefore now let the Upright to whom he writes consider what he propounds to them as an establishment against the errors of these erring dayes And first as to the Light in the Conscience he saith pag. 22. In that the Light is a sparkling glimpse in the Soul doth convince the Soul of what is done amiss which being discerned by the Soul serves for a Director of the Soul to Christ Jesus where only lies its help And in his 10th page saith That the Soul hath knowledge from this Light to eschew evil and do good in the doing of either of which stands his 〈◊〉 peace And in his 22 page saith That this Spirit or Light in man is the candle of the Lord that searcheth the innermost parts of the belly And in his 4 page faith Did not this Light in thy Conscience condemn thee of all that ever thou didst before the day of God brake forth And in his 3 page saith That the end of Christ's coming was to beget unto Communion with the Father and himself by giving them his life which is man's Light which my Brethren being our Salvation we have it by him who is our Saviour Jesus Christ And in his 11 page saith The Light serves to condemn for unbelief and to justifie the Creature in his obedience of Faith c. So by this time we see what a large testimony R. C. hath born to the Light in the Conscience and to its original to wit the Life of Jesus and to its power efficacy and influence and also to the effects that follow both the obedient and disobedient as wo and peace condemnation and justification and how it is the Souls director unto Christ and that by which the Soul obtains the knowledge of what is good and communion c. Now will or can any that doth take in and receive this Doctrine from R.C. doubt or question his being a friend to the Light and to the Quakers too seeing he hath so strongly asserted their Principle with so many illustrations Well suppose that now thou dost believe R.C. in these things and be setled in thy mind that he hath written the truth and so come to find a need of loving and obeying this Light
in thy Conscience which he further affirms in the 21 page thus The Word that was God by which all things was made in him was Life and that Life was the Light of men and he it is that lighteth every man that cometh into the world I say if thou dost come to be settled thus in these erring dayes as he calls them and dost come to have an esteem of the Light according as R.C. hath written my Counsel is unto thee that if R. C. or any else shall deny this Doctrine again and write or speak against it that thou believe them not but keep single to this truth and thou shalt find the good effects of it beyond what he hath or can declare yet thus far R. C. hath against his will witnessed to the truth Now mark what follows as to this Doctrine that R. C. may sufficiently appear to confute himself He saith in the 22 page The Light in the Conscience cannot lead the followers of its dictates further than its own centre which is the centre of nature and its power felt but the power of the centre of nature and that man's internal Light hath no more power to give Salvation than the Soul hath to save its self as in the same page and that the sinking down into it for a manifestation of the Salvation that came by grace in Christ is a Doctrine that turns away the Creature from Christ the Redeemer to a property of nature wherein can be no saving health as in page 10. And again in the same page he saith The Light in the Conscience being a property in man as man is a creature its office in the Soul is not appointed to give Salvation And in the 21 page he saith Christ the Word that maketh all things is not the Light and although he be goodness it self and sends forth his love to wit his life which shed in the heart is a Light which he calls his Spirit which Light is not Christ though of his nature And in the 5 page saith That the spirit of man is of the principle of light and is a spark of that nature which having lost its life by the transgression of the man to God is dead c. Now by this time where is the settlements for the young sprouts of the Nation who must if they will believe R. C. believe that the Light in Conscience is to lead to Christ and yet can lead no further than the centre of Nature and that it is Salvation and hath power to minister wo and peace to justifie or condemn and now must believe it can do neither it being but a property of Nature and dead to God and must believe that the Light of men is the Life and Christ and now must believe that though this Light is his Life and is his Spirit and of his Nature yet it is not He. Oh horrible blindness and sottishness Is this the way to settle People for such double-minded and double-tongued Hypocrites to take in hand to doctrinate them thus backward and forward to believe and deny the same thing and all in one hours time But one thing more I have to note which R. C. goes about to settle us in in these erring times about what we should and ought to believe of Christ and what he is that is the Saviour in which mark First he affirms in the 3d page That Christ is everlasting as he is the Word and in the 16 page saith The Seed is Christ to whom the Covenant was made by God as written My Covenant shall be with thee and with thy seed and he is Lord and Saviour And in pag. 17. he quotes the saying of Christ They have believed that I came down from thee So here thou mayst see who R.C. acknowledgeth to be the Saviour even the Seed of Promise with which God's Covenant stands for ever which Seed came down from God c. So this is good sound Doctrine according to Scripture but that thou mayst be unsettled again from this R. C. saith again in the 18 page That the Saviour is in Nature and Creaturality like him and that the Seed that broke the Serpents head is not something that this R.C. is not as he is nature and creature but is the off spring of Adam consisting as he doth and saith in his 12 page the body was Christ and in his 6 page Behold I shew you a Mystery you men in the clouds Christ being the product of the Holy Ghost to a coagulated substance from the properties of Man in Mary And in the 18 page saith Being out of doubt that the Soul of Christ was of and from the properties of nature and creature made by generation of the properties of Mary is that Seed God promised to break the Serpents head and in the 19 page Is it not the Body of Christ by which we are reconciled unto God yes verily So now let all People see if this man be like to settle any and to keep the young sprouts from being deceived who is thus confused himself one while telling it is the Seed that is the Saviour and the everlasting Word of God and he which came down from God c. and then presently saying it is a thing produced a thing formed of the properties of man a body that reconciles a coagulated substance a thing in nature like him himself consisting as he doth both in kind and substance and much such-like as may be seen more at large in his Book Well if R. C. had known Christ Jesus and the Power of his Death and Resurrection he had not written so confusedly for then he had known the virtue of the Seed and the service of Body and Soul too and had known the offering to be made by the eternal Spirit and then he would not have said that it was the body only that reconciled or that the body only was Christ seeing that the Body without the Spirit is dead and that could not give life but the Son of God that took the body hath life in himself and can give life to them that believe and was and is and is to come and he is in the Faithful and they are in him and in his body bone of it and flesh of it and the life which they live is by faith in him and not by talk of him But these things R.C. is a stranger to and so imagines about him and intrudes into things which he hath not seen and is vainly puft up in a fleshly mind and fleshly knowledge which is for judgment for this jumble and confusion is the only way to bring into Atheism indeed if there were no better Asserters of the Doctrine of Christianity then he is But let all sober People wait to feel a measure of that life and fulness that dwelt in that Body of Jesus for which it was prepared that so they may by the power of that Life be settled in the knowledge of the Saviour Jesus and may
he tells us in the same 26 page That the Father the Word and the Spirit are all One both in respect of consent in their Testimonies and also in respect of their eternity of being so which of these shall we believe that Christ and his Spirit are One or that they are not One R. C. will do well to tell People which he will stand by And for Cobbet's pleading or hoping That the Powers will keep up a Charity to us upon the account that thousands of us do he hopes believe his narrative of God and his desire altering the matter for a corporal form into a nature for production of creatures speaking forth the modal by his word c. page 26. Truly we need not R. C. to set forth an account of our Faith and Belief in these things neither can we own it or him for if we should we should soon be brought under the judgment both of God and Man And for his pleading That in the soundest Bodies there sometimes breaketh forth a Boyl Truly if he aims at us by this Body as I think he doth we do confess that so far as ever he was of us so far he is that Boyle which we confess is now broken forth but they that know him in particular know how little he was of us and how little while he profest himself to be of us so his breaking-out and running like a boyle or sore the corrupt matter that was in him is no great disparagement to the Body for the body is sounder without him than with him and whilst he was amongst us he was often breaking out with his whimseys and imaginations so that he became naucious unto us but not in so gross a manner as now And for R. C. saying That some of us knew that he counted our language but a cant language We know that from the first of his coming among us he was far enough from our language or life either but it is no great matter for him to call our Language a Cant who replyes to our words thus viz. when we said The Lord is one and his Name one he answers Friends do not caper as in his 2d page And he saith in his 31 page That he is no Quaker of which all that ever saw or heard any thing of the Quakers Books or Doctrines will bear him witness for never did Quaker appear in such a heap of confusion as R. C. hath done and yet that malicious saying of his in this 31 page That to be a Quaker is to deny his Lord and Master God will judge him for if by Lord and Master he means the Lord Jesus Christ as I think he doth But he that really and truly is his Lord viz. the Prince of the air that rules in the hearts of such disobedient Children and Apostates as he is He I confess he must deny more than ever yet he hath done before he can become a Quaker or have unity with them who are scornfully so called But why doth R. C. in his 30 page come with a kiss Judas-like and say Brethren I will ask you a question c. when as the matter he intends there to insinuate to his Reader is That we deny that Christ that was born of the Virgin Mary to be Christ Is not this on purpose to betray us and beguile his Reader and that with a Lye for we never yet denied him that was born of the Virgin Mary and suffered under Pontius Pilato to be the Lord and Saviour But indeed we never did believe him to be produced by coagulation as R.C. doth nor by generation of and from the properties of Man in Mary for then some might have declared his generation which the Scripture saith Who can do And besides we believe him to be the Eternal Son of God But if Cobbet's Doctrine be true then he was not before Mary but his ignorance of Christ is sufficiently manifested to all that have an eye opened And as to his saying That the Apostle saith 1 Cor. 15.1 2 3. That the Sufferings of Christ is the Power of God and Gospel by which we are saved That 's false and a belying the Apostle and Scripture too for all that reads the text may see that the Apostle speaks of his Sufferings but as one part of many of that Gospel which he had preached but it was the Resurrection of Christ he most of all pointed at as the principal thing they must come to feel the power of as in vers 12. Many more of Cobbet's Absurdities and Contradictions I might note down as also those noted in the Answer to his first Book which yet remains unanswered nor so much as an attempt made thereof he it may be dispairs of ever reconciling them in the sight of rational men But these at present may satisfie the ingenious Reader what spirit it is in Robert Cobbet that hath taken in hand to settle People in these erring dayes and to preserve the young sprouts of the Nation from corruption And so let Robert Cobbet mind if he writes again to keep more within the bounds of moderation and not to let his envy against the Light so captivate his reason as to bereave him of the use of it as it hath done for truly is that Scripture fulfilled in him He that walketh in darkness slumbleth and knoweth not whither he goeth Concerning the Light that lighteth every one that cometh into the world what it is and what it is not as Robert Cobbet saith Page 1. WHich Doctrine of the Light in Conscience had it been kept in its office as a School-master to bring unto Christ had been a Doctrine of good Morallity Page 22. BE not deceived the Light in Conscience cannot lead the followers of its dictates further then its own centre which is the centre of nature and its power felt but the power of the centre of nature Pag. 3. I deny not but the ends of the coming of the Lord into the world was to beget his Children into fellowship by communion with his Father and Himself by giving to them his Life which is man's Light which my Brethren being our Salvation c. P. 22. So hence I conclude that the spirit of man being his internal light hath no more power to give Salvation to the soul than the soul hath to save its self P. 10. But a light of reason man hath as man is a rational creature from which his light hath knowledge of good and bad as also knowledge from his light to eschew evil and to do good in the doing either of which stands his woe or peace P. 10. Therefore the light in man being but the light of man as man is a rational creature sinking into it for the manifestation of the Salvation that comes from Grace by Covenant from God by Jesus Christ is a Doctrine that turns away the creature from Christ the Redeemer to a property of Nature wherein can be no saving health Pag. 22. But in