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mr._n tomb_n i_o write_v several_a page_n enigmatical_o of_o the_o offensive_a scandal_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o they_o that_o now_o read_v they_o when_o the_o occasion_n be_v forget_v or_o unknown_a will_v either_o not_o understand_v they_o or_o think_v they_o too_o sharp_a but_o in_o all_o military_a controversy_n no_o man_n be_v so_o meet_v a_o judge_n as_o he_o that_o be_v on_o the_o ground_n §_o 2._o i_o be_o almost_o ready_a to_o condemn_v myself_o for_o that_o and_o many_o other_o thing_n past_o when_o i_o forget_v the_o occasion_n of_o they_o and_o the_o state_n that_o we_o be_v in_o but_o i_o will_v not_o deny_v that_o at_o that_o time_n my_o heart_n feel_v more_o than_o i_o express_v 1._o
i_o impute_v our_o calamity_n to_o direct_o but_o it_o be_v next_o to_o church_n tyranny_n the_o spirit_n of_o separation_n i_o mean_v when_o man_n can_v so_o far_o differ_v in_o judgement_n from_o other_o but_o a_o perverse_a zeal_n for_o their_o opinion_n as_o some_o excellent_a truth_n of_o god_n do_v instigate_v they_o to_o run_v away_o from_o those_o that_o be_v against_o it_o as_o if_o they_o be_v the_o enemy_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o god_n and_o unworthy_a of_o the_o communion_n of_o such_o as_o they_o which_o be_v nothing_o but_o a_o conjunction_n of_o pride_n ignorance_n and_o vncharitableness_n or_o malice_n §_o 12._o i_o have_v tell_v these_o man_n that_o when_o they_o have_v speak_v never_o so_o sharp_o against_o persecutor_n it_o be_v apparent_a that_o there_o be_v much_o of_o the_o same_o spirit_n in_o themselves_o one_o say_v of_o dissenter_n away_o with_o such_o unworthy_a person_n out_o of_o the_o ministry_n or_o out_o of_o the_o country_n and_o the_o other_o say_v away_o with_o such_o unworthy_a person_n from_o your_o communion_n and_o both_o contrary_a to_o christ_n sheep-mark_a which_o be_v love_n and_o both_o tend_v to_o make_v their_o brethren_n seem_v unlovely_a and_o who_o they_o serve_v by_o this_o mean_n whether_o the_o prince_n of_o love_n or_o the_o prince_n of_o malignity_n it_o be_v pity_n but_o they_o know_v or_o at_o least_o will_v consider_v of_o it_o instead_o of_o be_v angry_a with_o we_o when_o we_o tell_v they_o of_o it_o §_o 13._o i_o be_o not_o therefore_o half_o so_o zealous_a to_o turn_v man_n from_o the_o opinion_n of_o anabaptistry_n as_o i_o be_o to_o persuade_v both_o they_o and_o other_o that_o it_o be_v their_o duty_n to_o live_v together_o with_o mutual_a forbearance_n in_o love_n and_o church-communion_n notwithstanding_o such_o difference_n for_o which_o they_o may_v see_v more_o reason_n give_v by_o one_o that_o once_o be_v of_o their_o mind_n and_o way_n mr._n william_n allen_n in_o his_o retractation_n of_o separation_n book_n and_o his_o persuasive_a to_o unity_n than_o any_o of_o they_o can_v sound_o refel_v though_o they_o may_v too_o easy_o reject_v they_o §_o 14._o i_o be_o persuade_v that_o the_o formal_a minister_n and_o people_n who_o make_v little_o more_o use_n of_o baptism_n than_o to_o give_v it_o to_o infant_n and_o to_o receive_v it_o in_o infancy_n have_v be_v the_o great_a occasion_n of_o anabaptistry_n among_o we_o when_o the_o people_n see_v that_o all_o be_v baptise_a in_o infancy_n many_o afterward_o live_v all_o their_o day_n and_o never_o understand_v what_o baptism_n be_v and_o few_o ever_o solemn_o and_o distinct_o own_o and_o renew_v that_o covenant_n when_o they_o come_v to_o age_n unless_o come_v to_o church_n and_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n with_o as_o little_a understanding_n be_v a_o renew_n it_o this_o tempt_v serious_a people_n that_o understand_v not_o the_o matter_n well_o themselves_o to_o think_v that_o infant-baptism_n do_v but_o pollute_v the_o church_n by_o let_v in_o those_o who_o know_v not_o what_o they_o do_v and_o after_o prove_v profane_a or_o infidel_n and_o they_o think_v that_o it_o be_v the_o only_a way_n to_o reformation_n to_o stay_v till_o they_o be_v ready_a to_o devote_v themselves_o understand_o to_o god_n but_o this_o be_v their_o mistake_n for_o 1._o if_o it_o be_v defer_v till_o ripeness_n of_o age_n one_o part_n will_v neglect_v it_o and_o continue_v infidel_n and_o another_o part_n will_v do_v all_o formal_o as_o we_o see_v they_o do_v now_o at_o the_o other_o sacrament_n where_o the_o same_o covenant_n be_v to_o be_v renew_v 2._o there_o be_v a_o better_a remedy_n §_o 15._o for_o we_o hold_v that_o all_o that_o be_v baptise_a in_o infancy_n shall_v as_o understand_o and_o as_o serious_o and_o if_o it_o may_v be_v convenient_o as_o solemn_o own_o and_o make_v that_o covenant_n with_o god_n when_o they_o come_v to_o age_n as_o if_o they_o have_v never_o be_v baptize_v if_o not_o more_o as_o be_v more_o 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as_o be_v worse_a than_o no_o answer_n and_o show_v how_o little_a be_v to_o be_v say_v §_o 17._o though_o the_o act_n of_o baptise_v be_v a_o duty_n and_o so_o necessary_a necessitate_v praecepti_fw-la yet_o protestant_n hold_v that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o necessary_a necessitate_v medii_fw-la but_o that_o in_o some_o case_n those_o that_o be_v unbaptise_v may_v be_v save_v as_o in_o case_n the_o child_n die_v before_o it_o can_v be_v do_v or_o in_o case_n the_o absence_n or_o delay_n of_o the_o baptizer_n be_v the_o cause_n it_o be_v true-consenting_a to_o his_o covenant_n for_o ourselves_o and_o those_o that_o we_o have_v power_n to_o consent_n and_o accept_v it_o for_o which_o christ_n have_v make_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o if_o he_o shall_v damn_v a_o true_a consenter_n he_o shall_v damn_v one_o that_o have_v the_o love_n of_o god_n and_o one_o to_o who_o he_o promise_v salvation_n john_n 3.16_o 18._o §_o 18._o it_o be_v utter_o incongruous_a to_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o law_n of_o grace_n which_o be_v spiritual_a and_o to_o christ_n alteration_n who_o take_v down_o the_o law_n of_o burdensome_a ceremony_n to_o think_v that_o he_o shall_v lay_v so_o great_a a_o stress_n upon_o the_o very_a outward_a wash_n as_o that_o he_o will_v damn_v true_a believer_n that_o love_n god_n for_o want_v of_o it_o when_o he_o have_v do_v so_o much_o to_o convince_v the_o world_n that_o god_n seek_v such_o to_o worship_v he_o as_o will_v do_v it_o in_o spirit_n and_o truth_n and_o that_o circumcision_n or_o uncircumcision_n be_v nothing_o but_o faith_n that_o work_v by_o love_n and_o if_o penitent_a love_a believer_n shall_v not_o be_v save_v god_n promise_n give_v we_o no_o assurance_n or_o security_n §_o 19_o when_o the_o apostle_n ephes_n 4.4_o 5._o put_v one_o baptism_n among_o the_o necessary_n of_o church-concord_n by_o baptism_n be_v mean_v our_o solemn_a devote_v ourselves_o and_o we_o under_o that_o trust_n to_o christ_n in_o the_o baptismal_a covenant_n which_o 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his_o unsoundness_n by_o his_o disobedience_n §_o 21._o as_o baptism_n be_v make_v our_o great_a duty_n under_o that_o name_n so_o profession_n or_o confession_n of_o christ_n as_o such_o be_v oft_o mention_v as_o necessary_a even_o to_o salvation_n rom._n 10.9_o 10._o 1_o joh._n 4.2.3.15_o mat._n 10.32_o phil._n 2.11_o 2_o john_n 7._o and_o baptism_n be_v our_o open_a confess_v and_o own_v christ_n by_o a_o solemn_a vow_n and_o covenant_n it_o be_v principal_o as_o such_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n yea_o and_o to_o a_o perfect_a membership_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n §_o 22._o therefore_o if_o any_o man_n that_o in_o a_o desert_n or_o dry_a country_n can_v have_v no_o water_n or_o that_o live_v where_o there_o be_v no_o minister_n shall_v open_o before_o all_o the_o people_n
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be_v a_o sin_n for_o any_o man_n suppose_v infant_n baptism_n a_o duty_n to_o offer_v his_o child_n to_o be_v baptise_a where_o it_o will_v be_v do_v with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n or_o such_o ceremony_n as_o the_o lutheran_n use_n though_o he_o profess_v his_o own_o dissent_n and_o dissallowance_n of_o those_o ceremony_n and_o though_o he_o can_v lawful_o have_v it_o do_v better_a but_o must_v have_v that_o or_o no_o baptism_n at_o all_o ii_o that_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o the_o second_o three_o and_o four_o age_n it_o have_v be_v better_a to_o be_v unbaptise_v than_o to_o use_v a_o white_a garment_n in_o baptism_n as_o they_o do_v or_o to_o be_v anoint_v as_o then_o or_o to_o taste_v milk_n and_o honey_n though_o the_o person_n offer_v his_o child_n to_o such_o baptism_n have_v profess_v his_o dissent_n as_o aforesaid_a iii_o that_o all_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o those_o second_o three_o and_o four_o and_o follow_v age_n who_o be_v baptise_a thus_o 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in_o that_o sacred_a office_n be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o relative_o holy_a as_o separate_v to_o god_n therein_o vi_o that_o temple_n and_o church_n utensil_n devote_v and_o lawful_o separate_v by_o man_n to_o holy_a use_n either_o be_v not_o just_o relate_v to_o god_n as_o so_o separate_v or_o though_o so_o separate_v and_o relate_v be_v in_o no_o degree_n to_o be_v call_v holy_a vii_o your_o pref._n 16._o that_o no_o reverence_n be_v due_a to_o minister_n and_o church_n utensil_n viii_o ibid._n to_o be_v uncover_v in_o the_o church_n and_o use_v reverend_a carriage_n and_o gesture_n there_o do_v not_o at_o all_o tend_v to_o preserve_v due_a reverence_n to_o god_n and_o his_o worship_n ix_o ibid._n that_o the_o unjust_a alienation_n of_o temple_n utensil_n land_n day_n which_o be_v separate_v by_o god_n himself_o be_v no_o sacrilege_n no_o not_o to_o have_v turn_v the_o temple_n of_o old_a and_o the_o sacred_a thing_n to_o a_o common_a use_n unjust_o nor_o the_o lord_n day_n now_o 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in_o scripture_n xii_o ib._n according_o it_o be_v sin_n to_o use_v the_o word_n altar_n for_o table_n or_o the_o word_n sacrifice_n for_o worship_n as_o thanksgiving_n etc._n etc._n though_o with_o all_o the_o foresay_a caution_n and_o though_o god_n so_o use_v they_o in_o the_o scripture_n 1_o pet._n 2.5_o heb._n 13.15_o 16._o phil._n 4.18_o eph._n 5.2_o rom._n 12.1_o heb._n 13.10_o rev._n 6.9_o and_o 8.3_o 5._o and_o 16.7_o and_o that_o all_o the_o ancient_a writer_n and_o church_n sin_v that_o so_o speak_v xiii_o that_o no_o sober_a christian_n shall_v allow_v each_o other_o the_o liberty_n of_o such_o phrase_n without_o censoriousness_n or_o breach_n of_o charity_n and_o peace_n ibid._n pref_o fourteen_o ibid._n
to_o write_v or_o teach_v he_o music_n arithmetic_n geometry_n latin_a greek_a or_o hebrew_n logic_n or_o grammar_n or_o any_o art_n though_o but_o such_o as_o labourer_n get_v their_o daily_a bread_n by_o xxxi_o ib._n that_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n for_o those_o in_o italy_n or_o any_o kingdom_n that_o can_v have_v no_o other_o to_o let_v a_o popish_a priest_n teach_v their_o child_n the_o creed_n lord_n prayer_n and_o ten-commandments_n which_o all_o christian_n be_v agree_v in_o but_o it_o be_v better_o that_o they_o never_o learn_v a_o word_n of_o the_o bible_n or_o christian-faith_n than_o learn_v it_o of_o such_o a_o priest_n so_o sinful_o do_v bishop_n usher_n make_v the_o motion_n to_o the_o priest_n in_o ireland_n that_o protestant_n and_o they_o may_v join_v in_o teach_v the_o barbarous_a people_n the_o creed_n and_o common_a principle_n of_o religion_n xxxii_o ib._n that_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n to_o hear_v a_o popish_a priest_n read_v god_n word_n or_o any_o good_a book_n though_o it_o be_v a_o protestant_n or_o one_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n or_o to_o hear_v he_o speak_v the_o true_a doctrine_n though_o in_o a_o country_n where_o it_o can_v no_o other_o way_n be_v hear_v or_o learn_v xxxiii_o ib._n that_o in_o such_o a_o country_n where_o there_o be_v no_o other_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n to_o join_v with_o one_o of_o they_o in_o any_o prayer_n how_o good_a soever_o though_o crave_v a_o blessing_n on_o our_o meat_n or_o in_o a_o family_n or_o elsewhere_o even_o in_o the_o lord_n prayer_n xxxiv_o ib._n that_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n to_o believe_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n and_o so_o no_o man_n woman_n or_o child_n can_v be_v save_v that_o believe_v it_o not_o and_o so_o since_o antichrist_n arise_v we_o have_v a_o new_a article_n in_o our_o creed_n even_o for_o those_o that_o know_v not_o what_o the_o pope_n be_v whether_o male_a or_o female_a flesh_n or_o fish_n xxxv_o ib._n that_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n to_o read_v any_o good_a book_n 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cassato_fw-la baptismate_fw-la infantiae_fw-la in_o profundum_fw-la omnium_fw-la malorum_fw-la utpote_fw-la postmodum_fw-la baptizandis_fw-la impune_fw-la ruere_fw-la lege_fw-la epist_n leodiensis_fw-la episcopi_fw-la contra_fw-la berengar_fw-la ad_fw-la henr._n reg._n franc._n &_o eisdem_fw-la pene_fw-la verbis_fw-la eadem_fw-la ipsa_fw-la ibi_fw-la scripta_fw-la reperies_fw-la that_o be_v make_v void_a the_o baptism_n of_o infancy_n they_o may_v rush_v unpunished_a into_o the_o depth_n of_o all_o evil_n as_o be_v afterward_o to_o be_v baptize_v read_v the_o epistle_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o liege_n to_o h._n r._n of_o france_n against_o berengarius_fw-la and_o there_o you_o shall_v find_v these_o same_o thing_n write_v almost_o in_o the_o same_o word_n and_o now_o reader_n judge_v further_o 1._o whether_o this_o papist_n who_o never_o know_v the_o matter_n himself_o and_o who_o book_n show_v he_o a_o silly_a bitter_a fellow_n profess_v to_o transcribe_v or_o take_v his_o word_n 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fellow_n be_v this_o guitmund_n that_o his_o fellow_n papist_n be_v put_v to_o disow_v he_o for_o say_v that_o their_o eucharistical_a host_n can_v be_v corrupt_v or_o putrify_v or_o be_v eat_v by_o mouse_n or_o any_o bruit_n but_o only_o seem_v so_o to_o be_v ib._n p._n 230._o l._n 2._o §_o 15._o his_o three_o proof_n be_v in_o the_o bibl._n patr._n paris_n p._n 432._o it_o be_v record_v that_o durandus_fw-la write_v the_o deny_v and_o as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o lay_v the_o destroy_n the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o do_v this_o man_n ever_o see_v the_o book_n he_o cit_v who_o cit_v pag._n 432._o of_o the_o bibl._n pat._n as_o if_o be_v but_o one_o tomb_n or_o volume_n that_o long_o ago_o be_v eleven_o great_a volume_n and_o now_o many_o more_o it_o be_v like_o marg._n le_fw-fr bigness_n edit_n be_v that_o he_o mean_v the_o epistle_n be_v tom._n 3._o p._n 319._o of_o the_o bigne_n paris_n 1624._o the_o author_n say_v usher_n de_fw-fr success_n eccl._n p._n 196._o be_v false_o call_v durandus_fw-la and_o be_v deoduinus_n or_o dietwinus_n his_o word_n be_v fama_fw-la supremos_fw-la galliae_fw-la fine_n praetergressa_fw-la totam_fw-la germaniam_fw-la pervasit_fw-la jamque_fw-la omnium_fw-la nostrum_fw-la replevit_fw-la aures_fw-la qualiter_fw-la bruno_n andeg._n episc_n item_n berengarius_fw-la turonensis_n astruant_fw-la corpus_fw-la domini_fw-la non_fw-la tam_fw-la corpus_fw-la esse_fw-la quam_fw-la umbram_fw-la &_o figuram_fw-la corporis_fw-la domini_fw-la legitima_fw-la conjugia_fw-la destruant_fw-la &_o quantum_fw-la in_o ipsis_fw-la est_fw-la baptismum_fw-la parvulorum_fw-la evertant_fw-la this_o be_v it_o that_o usher_v cite_v 1._o you_o see_v here_o be_v nothing_o but_o a_o papist_n prelate_n tale_n to_o a_o king_n upon_o far_o fetch_v fame_n 2._o charge_v he_o equal_o yea_o more_fw-it with_o destroy_v marriage_n 3._o and_o say_v but_o quantum_fw-la in_o se_fw-la of_o baptism_n 4._o and_o part_n of_o the_o fame_n be_v that_o the_o king_n have_v call_v a_o council_n to_o examine_v these_o thing_n which_o council_n never_o take_v notice_n of_o any_o such_o matter_n confute_v the_o fame_n and_o do_v mr._n d._n the_o great_a enemy_n of_o antichrist_n persuade_v poor_a anabaptist_n to_o believe_v such_o fellow_n and_o tale_n as_o these_o §_o 16._o in_o his_o reply_n he_o add_v four_a thuanus_n witness_v that_o bruno_n archbishop_n of_o trier_n do_v persecute_v berengarius_fw-la for_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n as_o p._n 242._o answ_n 1._o again_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o thuanus_n and_o tell_v not_o where_o as_o if_o we_o must_v read_v over_o five_o volume_n in_o folio_n to_o be_v able_a to_o disprove_v such_o a_o tale-teller_n as_o this_o but_o he_o say_v usher_n say_v so_o the_o success_n eccl._n pag._n 252._o but_o all_o still_o be_v false_a my_o book_n there_o have_v not_o such_o a_o word_n usher_n word_n be_v pag._n 207._o and_o they_o also_o he_o most_o horrible_o falsify_v they_o be_v but_o these_o brunonem_fw-la 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