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bellarmâ—n_n have_v forget_v to_o name_v he_o so_o i_o can_v take_v this_o author_n off_o your_o hand_n but_o this_o be_v sure_a eusebius_n lib._n 8._o dem._n evang._n in_o fine_a call_v the_o bread_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o memorial_n of_o his_o body_n the_o image_n of_o his_o body_n then_o it_o be_v no_o sacrifice_n nor_o corporal_o the_o body_n and_o see_v it_o be_v real_o relative_o and_o symbolical_o such_o we_o will_v not_o have_v it_o now_o abuse_v by_o negligence_n origen_n say_v no_o more_o hom_n 13._o on_o exod._n we_o say_v no_o less_o for_o purgatory_n you_o cite_v tertullian_n in_o the_o second_o age_n and_o cyprian_a in_o the_o three_o neither_o of_o which_o be_v for_o it_o for_o tertull._n lib._n the_o patien_n say_v christum_fw-la laedimus_fw-la cum_fw-la evocatos_fw-la quosdam_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la quasi_fw-la miserandâ—s_fw-la non_fw-la aequanimiter_fw-la accipimus_fw-la as_o if_o they_o who_o be_v call_v hence_o and_o be_v with_o christ_n be_v in_o a_o pityful_a state_n have_v obtain_v their_o desire_n phil._n 1._o 23._o and_o cyprian_n de_fw-fr immortalitate_fw-la say_v ad_fw-la refrigerium_fw-la justi_fw-la vocantur_fw-la ad_fw-la supplicium_fw-la injusti_fw-la câ—piuntur_fw-la velocâ—uâ—_n tutelâ—_n sidentibus_fw-la persidis_fw-la poena_fw-la i_o e._n the_o just_a aâ—e_n call_v to_o refresh_a resâ—_n the_o wicked_a be_v take_v to_o punishment_n safety_n come_v very_o swift_o to_o believer_n and_o punishment_n to_o unbeliever_n and_o cyprian_a say_v lib._n adversus_fw-la demetrianum_n aevi_fw-la temporalis_fw-la sine_fw-la completo_fw-la ad_fw-la aeternae_fw-la vel_fw-la mortis_fw-la vel_fw-la immortalitatis_fw-la hospitia_fw-la diudimur_fw-la et_fw-la ibidem_fw-la quando_fw-la illinâ—_n excessum_fw-la fuerit_fw-la nullus_fw-la jam_fw-la locus_fw-la poenitentiae_fw-la est_fw-la nullus_fw-la satisfactionis_fw-la â—effectus_fw-la ad_fw-la mortalitatem_fw-la sub_fw-la ipsa_fw-la morte_fw-la transitur_fw-la i_o e._n when_o man_n depart_v out_o of_o this_o world_n there_o be_v no_o place_n thereafter_o for_o repentance_n no_o effect_n of_o satisfaction_n at_o death_n man_n pass_v over_o to_o immortality_n it_o be_v true_a they_o grant_v probatory_a affliction_n and_o the_o fiery_a trial_n here_o some_o of_o they_o also_o deny_v full_a fruition_n to_o the_o elect_n till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n but_o for_o purgatory_n till_o the_o six_o age_n it_o be_v not_o know_v then_o gregory_n the_o first_o mantain_v it_o dial._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 39_o neither_o can_v that_o prison_n matth._n 5_o be_v understand_v of_o purgatory_n as_o shall_v be_v afterward_o prove_v i_o shall_v close_v this_o point_n with_o justin_n murtyr_n resp_n ad_fw-la orthod_n quest_n pag._n 75._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o e._n after_o the_o departure_n of_o the_o soul_n out_o of_o the_o body_n immediate_o there_o be_v a_o separation_n of_o the_o just_a from_o the_o unjust_a for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o righteous_a be_v bring_v to_o paradise_n and_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o wicked_a be_v take_v to_o hell_n then_o you_o prove_v prayer_n to_o the_o dead_a from_o clemens_n epist_n 1._o the_o sancto_fw-it petro_n and_o tertul._n de_fw-fr cor_fw-la mil._n i_o shall_v not_o insist_v on_o that_o apocryphal_a epistle_n but_o for_o tertullian_n he_o and_o other_o pray_v for_o a_o joyful_a resurrection_n to_o they_o and_o hence_o be_v some_o panegyric_n concern_v they_o which_o be_v rather_o to_o profit_v themselves_o then_o the_o party_n decease_v as_o augustin_n tell_v we_o in_o enchir_n ad_fw-la laurentium_fw-la they_o be_v consolationes_fw-la vivorum_fw-la you_o offer_v also_o to_o make_v out_o by_o st._n dennis_n that_o they_o in_o primo_fw-la primitiva_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la pray_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n as_o for_o the_o first_o citation_n to_o you_o who_o profess_v to_o believe_v the_o scripture_n of_o god_n and_o do_v yet_o stumble_v weak_a one_o with_o thorny_a question_n concern_v their_o authority_n it_o will_v not_o be_v unexpedient_a for_o i_o who_o can_v find_v such_o a_o writter_n in_o the_o second_o centurie_n for_o you_o can_v mean_v dionysius_n the_o areopagit_n who_o live_v in_o the_o 1._o centurie_n nor_o dionysius_n alexandrinus_n who_o live_v in_o the_o 3._o centurie_n to_o inquire_v i_o say_v of_o you_o whither_o be_v there_o such_o a_o saint_n and_o if_o that_o be_v make_v out_o whither_o do_v he_o write_v any_o book_n at_o all_o and_o if_o so_o if_o this_o be_v the_o book_n which_o you_o call_v he_o i_o will_v not_o take_v the_o pope_n word_n for_o it_o nor_o you_o see_v both_o hierom_n and_o bellarmin_n leave_v he_o out_o of_o their_o history_n when_o these_o question_n be_v answer_v i_o shall_v prepare_v a_o answer_n for_o his_o testimony_n but_o it_o be_v more_o strange_a that_o you_o cite_v origen_n who_o write_v against_o the_o pagan_a celsus_n in_o this_o point_n of_o prayer_n to_o saint_n and_o angel_n lib._n 8._o pag._n 432._o 433._o say_v express_o to_o who_o we_o 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this_o man_n have_v few_o follower_n therefore_o some_o deny_v the_o minor_a as_o durand_n lib_n 3._o do_v 9_o quest_n 2._o who_o asser_v that_o they_o do_v not_o worship_v image_n but_o that_o which_o be_v represent_v by_o the_o image_n so_o it_o be_v relative_a worship_n and_o the_o image_n be_v a_o representative_a only_o and_o memorial_n of_o the_o right_a object_n now_o this_o answore_v be_v naught_o for_o if_o that_o be_v why_o do_v they_o nor_o likewise_o worship_v all_o the_o creature_n see_v they_o declare_v the_o glory_n of_o god_n and_o may_v be_v memorial_n second_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n condemn_v this_o gloss_n which_o in_o its_o decree_n de_fw-fr imaginiâ—us_fw-la say_v that_o debita_fw-la veneratio_fw-la iis_fw-la imperâ—ienda_fw-la est_fw-la i._n e._n due_a worship_n be_v to_o be_v attribute_v to_o they_o viz_o to_o image_n they_o according_a to_o their_o manner_n do_v not_o declare_v what_o manner_n of_o worship_n shall_v be_v impart_v but_o it_o be_v sure_a 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