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A18933 The conuerted Iew or Certaine dialogues betweene Micheas a learned Iew and others, touching diuers points of religion, controuerted betweene the Catholicks and Protestants. Written by M. Iohn Clare a Catholicke priest, of the Society of Iesus. Dedicated to the two Vniuersities of Oxford and Cambridge ... Clare, John, 1577-1628.; Anderton, Lawrence, attributed name.; Anderton, Roger, d. 1640?, attributed name. 1630 (1630) STC 5351; ESTC S122560 323,604 470

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c._n 2._o 2._o l._n de_fw-fr side_n cap._n 17._o 17._o de_fw-fr spirit_n sauct_v c._n 29._o 29._o in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la locum_fw-la d._n whit._n de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la script_n p._n 521._o say_v nam_fw-la quando_fw-la scriptura_fw-la non_fw-la habetvivam_fw-la vocem_fw-la quam_fw-la aud●amus_fw-la utendum_fw-la est_fw-la quibus●lam_fw-la mediis_fw-la quibus_fw-la investigamus_fw-la quissit_v ses●s_fw-la quae_fw-la meas_fw-la scripturari●_n scripturari●_n so_o say_v d._n whit._n l._n de_fw-fr eccles_n contravers_n 2._o quaest_n 2._o p._n 221._o 221._o d._n reynolds_n in_o his_o conference_n p._n 83._o 84._o 92._o 98._o 98._o d._n whit._n cotra_fw-fr bellar._n de_fw-fr eccles_n contravers_n 2._o quaesi_fw-la 2._o pag._n 221._o thus_o write_v qualia_fw-la illa_fw-la media_fw-la sunt_fw-la tale_n ipsa_fw-la interpretatione_n esse_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la at_o media_fw-la interpretadi_fw-la leca_v obscura_fw-la sunt_fw-la incerta_fw-la dubia_fw-la et_fw-la ambigua_fw-la ergo_fw-la fieri_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la quin_fw-la et_fw-la ipsa_fw-la interpretat_fw-la o._n incerta_fw-la sit_fw-la si_fw-la incerta_fw-la tunc_fw-la esse_fw-la potest_fw-la falsa_fw-la falsa_fw-la psal_n 18._o 18._o dan._n 2._o 2._o isaiah_n 2._o 2._o isaiah_n 60._o 60._o cap._n 15._o 16._o 17._o 17._o d._n whit_n contra_fw-la camprat_n 3._o thus_o saithe_v de_fw-fr loco_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la pa●ùm_fw-la laboro_fw-la nec_fw-la arbitrii_fw-la libertatem_fw-la credam_fw-la quamtumuis_fw-la hic_fw-la centies_fw-la affirmet_fw-la coram_fw-la hominibus_fw-la esse_fw-la vitam_fw-la et_fw-la mortem_fw-la mortem_fw-la cap._n 4._o 4._o cap._n 30._o 30._o d._n whit_n l._n 9_o contra_fw-la duraeum_n p._n 818._o thus_o say_v of_o this_o point_n tuum_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la causa_fw-la petrum_fw-la galatinum_fw-la minimè_fw-la prostctò_fw-la desideramus_fw-la nec_fw-la haebreorum_fw-la testimoniis_fw-la illis_fw-la indigemus_fw-la indigemus_fw-la 1._o joan._n 2._o 2._o rom._n 8._o et_fw-la galat._n 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