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Marginall antidotes, to be affixed over against the lines of R.H. and E.B. their pamphlet, entituled, The rebukes of a reviler. Written and prescribed by John Stalham of Terling.
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Stalham, John, d. 1681.
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Wing S5185; Thomason E926_3; ESTC R207582
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Marginall Antidotes TO BE Affixed over against the lines of R. H. and E. B. their PAMPHLET ENTITULED The Rebukes of a Reviler Written and Prescribed by JOHN STALHAM of Terling PROV 26.4 5. Answer not a fool according to his folly lest thou also be like unto him Answer a fool according to his folly lest he be wise in his own conceit LONDON Printed for Edward Brewster and are to be sold at his shop at the Signe of the Crane in St. Pauls Church-yard 1657. Marginal Antidotes c. Their Pamphlet thus Prefaceth page 3. WHereas the ancient of dayes hath appeared c. A transforming mist to amaze the simple Reader pag. 3. 4. 5. 6. as afterwards pag. 18 19 20. Pag. 7. shamelesly stiling the pure light of Christ perverse principle and selfe-adorning-light Quakers adore their own light and magnify natural light as if it were Gospel-saving light this is from the perverse principle of their fleshly wisedome Pag. 8. O! How fain would J. S. sinfull indeed In the sence that Regenerate men have acknowledged see Pag. 149. of my Book entituled The Reviler rebuked Ibid Whether he meanes any one may not I determine not strike them Corporally c. Not any but those authorized and that either Se defendendo or for a criminall offence Pag. 9. Would wickedly make men believe that these mens Tenents sc the Quaker's are as Reprobate stuff as the Jesuites Some of their Tenents I said ' witness their Doctrine of Justification Their blasphemies as horrid as the Popish Parasites Witness Jam. Nayler and his followers Pag. 10. Would have some Stigmatized For their crimes I said not bare opinions which are notorious and grosse seandalous practises Ibid. Who art a reviler of the light of Christ calling it perverse Principle The liberty these men take to wrest adde or detract is hereby evident for I never called the light of Christ perverse Principle but as above in that they set up something in the room of Christ i. e. themselves and their common candle-light of reason which they worship and adore as some have of old the light of the Firmament this self-adoring light is their perverse Principle Pag. 11. In the sight of his Church that his shame may not appear before them The Church here is ashamed of your Doctrines and walkings Pag. 12. All are Reprobates but such in whom Christ is within them Then all the Elect are Reprobates before Conversion Ibid. I ask a proof of this sc Christ's blessing of Infant-Baptisme Many thousands have wil seal unto it Pag. 13. He seemes to charge the Scripture with false Translations The Scripture in the true sence is the believers Rule True Translations may vary in words yet not Deviate from the true sence Pag. 14. His wickednesse appeares by reproching and reviling dead men such as H. N. Jacob B. W. E. This is no judgment in my Epistle pass'd upon the men but upon and according to their Doctrines Pag. 15. Shall the honest Reader receive this for truth that the light of Christ Jesus is a perverse Principle This the fifth time the Answerer hath falsified my sence and words as to this one passage See Antidote upon his page 7. and 10. Ibid. Wee demand what these Jesuiticall plots and designs are we do carry on They are your scattering seeds of Popery and fomenting seeds of division among Protestants and Puritans in profession to carry them more and more back to Babylon Pag. 16. We do not allow that J. S. be our Interpreter Your words compared one Book and page with another and all examined by Scripture interpret themselves which was J. S. his faithfullness to discover how contradictious they are Ibid. His judgment is but out of his old lying heart This is their charity if we confesse we have something of the old man in us to judg that all we write and speak proceed from the old principle and nothing from the new creature Pag. 17. Not in the light of the Spirit do we in any one particular insisted upon by him contradict the Scripture You do not see your contradictions through want of Spirituall light and eyes together Ibid. Out of J. S. deceitfull heart * I shall not retort but pray for all simple Readers and Revilers Pag. 18 19. For as much as many have been moved Another transforming mist and a bold but feigned imitation of Luke Chap. 1.1 c. Pag. 20. And now as the Prophet Joel Prophesied is it come and coming to passe Joel 2 2 3 4. 10 11. An abuse of the Prophet Joel who is literally to be understood in the place quoted and Chap. 2. to be Expounded by Chap. 1. ver 3.6.12 c. Pag. 21. The ground in him and the heart out of which this abundance of words in his book proceeds is the root of all errour see 2d Animadversion upon pag. 16. Ibid. Yet the root of all sin is in him and seen by him not mortified Becaus Paul said there dwelt no good thing in his flesh did he therefore write no truth in his Epistles It followeth as well as these mens reasoning An old Heart and a new are both at the same time not raigning but the old remaining in part and the new raigning over the old in the same Christian See 113. 114. pages of my Book Pag. 22. Such who be in the state as J. S. confesseth he is J. S. said not that he is in the state of sin but that sin the root of every sin is in him and others during the state of naturall Life Pag. 23. The Letter taken strictly being legall c. The Spirit is given by this Not by this but by that part of the word which is the Gospel promise See my Book pag 4. Yet the Spirit worketh by the Legall Letter see how page 6. Pag. 24. Though J. S. say that not one man in the World knows God to be God till he findes him in the Scripture If he had so said it were to be taken in the sence given in my Book pag. 66. but my words are to be read as they are pag. 69. Not one man c. knows him speaking of Christ to be God till he finds him in the Scripture John 1.45 Pag. 25. Again I. S. saith that the Authority of the Scriptures is owned among the Jewes to this day The Authority of Moses and the Prophets I onely speak of see my 13. page Ibid. J. S. saith as deep things as the Spirit hath revealed they are all in the Scripture Answer Nay As Gold pieces of 10. and 20. â— are in the gold One. Ibid. There was things revealed which was unutterable and many things written which is not in the Scriptures as the Book of Nathan the Prophet c. we know by Scripture the e was such things revealed and such Books written see my 17. 18. with 67. pages Pag. 26. Why doth he not as well hear witnesse that Pauls Epistle to the Laodiceans was read as the Word
let the judicious Reader observ by the context opened in my 54. page Ibid. The rule of the Spirit of God is above the Scripture Asmuch as to say he Scripture is above the Scripture But the naked truth is the spirit of God ruleth by the Scriptures He is above his Rule but the Saints even as such are under it Pag. 71. Let him charge them that are guilty sc for putting off that for redemption light which is but old-creation light That is R.H. and E.B. with men of their deluded and deluding perswasion Ibid. His whole Section I leave to be read in his Book See my 276. p. I understand not this nonsence Ibid. Neither did we ever affirme that Christ is not in the Reprobate and so is not in all Ibid. Neither do we concerning Justification contradict our selves You must take their word for it who will not or cannot try their Doctrines by the Scripture Touch-stone and compare one of their sayings with another Ibid. What would J.S. have said of John who told them they needed no man to teach them The Apostles meaning 1. Joâ— 2.27 is vindicated from these men and cleared in my 41. pag. Pag. 74. Though God spake by G.F. to him viz. E. Bor. ough this doth not contradict the teaching of the Sporit of God It clearly sheweth that E.B. had not all by the immediate teaching of the Spirit and still your contradiction holds as I have demonstrated it in my 280.281 pages or if you 'l say and it be your meaning that God teacheth mediately here to bring us to immediate teachings altogether in Heaven and that outward teaching leades to inward and inward to outward while we are here it will argue ingenuity a concession of truth and an eating of former clashing expressions Pag. 73. Rightly paged E.B. doth never say that the light of Christ is natur all and carnall but the light of man Who gave man that light Answer E.B. for your self and others Ib. E.B. Speaks of mans light and J.S. foolishly opposeth him c. Who I ask again gaveman that light Ibid. Neither Christ nor his blood is in Scripture This is your ignorant Blasphemy Ibid. Let it be moved Where and whither If it be moved at the Mouth by Alder-gate let a room be built for it in the Land of Shinar Pag. 74. He saith the Scripture was given by the Spirit for a Rule this we desire a proof of by plain Scripture till then we deny it If any man wil be ignorant and obstinate Let him be ignorant and Obstinate Ib. He saith the Spirit gives out himself by Scripture and yet he saith he never said the Scripture did give the Spirit and this is an absolute contradiction In your apprehension who knew not what a contradiction is and what it is not Ib He saith our possessing perfection and Quaking after Moses example cross shins on the other Professing I said yet I will hold in your languager much more Ibid. But wherein he doth not shew The thing shews it selfe see my first Book page 25. Pag. 75. And yet doth own Prayer in the Spirit and who are moved by the Spirit morning or evening or at meales or otherwise The Spirit moveth to payer as to each other duty by the Scripture-Rule and according to it 1. Thes 17.18 Tim. 4.4 Act. 27.35 Rom 14.6 Pag. 76. And this is truth let J.S. gather what he can from it J.S. gathers that you would engrosse the Spirit to your selves which if it breath in your praiers well hee is sure it breaths not in your Writings Ib. Speaking that which is not in the Spirit we check You check the Spirit in others and grieve the Spirit where it is in any of your selves Page 77. According to the light of Christ Jesus in every man's conscience which is but one in all This helps your nonsence page 71. rightly paged but contradicts what was there delivered Christ is not in the Reprobate Ibid. By these words No Law must be concerning Religion we do not mean that we should not have a Law according to Religion but no Law to limit to or from this or that manner of Religion It appears by this you do not alwaies mean as you speak but it were well your meanings were better then your sayings now learn to write and speak better and we shall the better judg of your meanings Pag. 78. Wee are not they that would have any Magistrates to bind themselves from striking at offenders who are truly able to judge of offences Agreed and then all in my Epistle Dedicatorie charged with lies slanders presumption arrogancy flattery and cruelty will stand good against your charge Ibid. and Pag. 79. As for the rest of his Book sc the Appendiz c. His lyes I do deny from first to 8. Animadversion Here is all along but your nay against my yea Whereof I give too home proof for your patience to bear it Let my Appendix be viewed and reviewed Pag. 79. So that from the first of his Book to his last his whole work is borne witnesse against not to be of God but of the Devill If R H. as it seems by the posture of letters listed himselfe to fight in the Front of the Pamphlet and E.B. in the Rear although they toss and racket my name up and down as a Tennis-ball from the beginning to the end yet they do but beat the Aire and strike at themselves and hurt not me For pag. 50. one saith he pursues me not in every Argument the other saith From the first of my Book to the last my whole work is born witnesse against How these things accord let the Reader judg Now R.H. and E.B. if you can receive the censure of a discerning Christian of no inferiour rank it was this All the reason of this your Book may be put into an Egge-shell and for my part I have no more taste of it except in such few passages where you are reduced to a better explication of your minds then of the white of an Egge Pag. 80 81 82 83. Ah! J.S. against whom hast thou set thy self c To all these four last pages with many other passages in the book it is the King of Heavens commandement Prov. 26.4 not to answer you a word FINIS