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A45244 A treatise concerning the covenant and baptism dialogue-wise, between a Baptist & a Poedo-Baptist wherein is shewed, that believers only are the spirituall seed of Abraham, fully discovering the fallacy of the argument drawn from the birth priviledge : with some animadversions upon a book intituled Infant-baptism from heaven and not of men, defending the practise of baptizing only believers against the exceptions of M. Whiston / by Edward Hutchinson. Hutchinson, E. M. (Edward Moss) 1676 (1676) Wing H3829; ESTC R40518 127,506 243

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which_o mr._n baxter_n drive_v at_o can_v never_o be_v prove_v viz._n that_o there_o be_v a_o lineal_a successive_a conveyance_n of_o grace_n from_o the_o parent_n to_o the_o child_n if_o so_o it_o be_v strange_a that_o all_o flesh_n shall_v so_o soon_o have_v corrupt_v its_o way_n that_o god_n see_v cause_n to_o bring_v the_o flood_n upon_o the_o world_n of_o ungodly_a sure_o have_v there_o be_v any_o such_o covenant_n holiness_n as_o the_o poedo-baptists_n dream_n of_o before_o the_o flood_n there_o will_v have_v be_v some_o godly_a society_n some_o great_a number_n of_o believer_n to_o have_v be_v preserve_v beside_o noah_n and_o his_o family_n who_o be_v not_o all_o godly_a neither_o there_o be_v a_o cham_n among_o they_o which_o will_v not_o have_v be_v if_o there_o be_v such_o a_o conveyance_n of_o grace_n and_o covenant_n holiness_n from_o the_o father_n to_o the_o son_n so_o that_o notwithstanding_o what_o have_v be_v say_v infant_n church-membership_a come_v in_o with_o the_o law_n of_o circumcision_n and_o go_v out_o and_o be_v repeal_v with_o it_o as_o have_v be_v abundant_o prove_v for_o when_o there_o be_v a_o change_n of_o the_o priesthood_n there_o be_v a_o change_n of_o the_o law_n which_o must_v needs_o include_v circumcision_n with_o all_o the_o appurtenance_n and_o privilege_n belong_v to_o it_o poed_n but_o what_o think_v you_o of_o that_o principle_n that_o some_o tell_v that_o infant_n be_v church-member_n before_o they_o be_v baptize_v so_o mr._n will_n pag._n 27._o say_v the_o first_o and_o chief_a end_n of_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v the_o initiate_a sign_n and_o seal_v of_o god_n covenant_n and_o favour_n to_o we_o in_o christ_n and_o not_o to_o give_v a_o entrance_n or_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n unless_o person_n be_v to_o be_v repute_v member_n of_o the_o church_n they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v for_o baptism_n in_o its_o own_o nature_n be_v the_o seal_n of_o our_o be_v already_o ingraft_v into_o christ_n and_o consequent_o into_o the_o church_n for_o which_o he_o quote_v dr._n ames_n and_o pag._n 45._o we_o deny_v say_v he_o that_o baptism_n do_v give_v formality_n or_o make_v a_o man_n a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n though_o that_o orthodox_n divine_v have_v frequent_o term_v baptism_n the_o sacrament_n of_o our_o initiation_n into_o the_o church_n and_o have_v ascribe_v our_o admission_n or_o entrance_n into_o it_o thereunto_o pag._n 46._o to_o which_o i_o answer_v bap._n it_o seem_v then_o that_o mr._n will_n be_v wise_a than_o his_o orthodox_n divine_v 2._o if_o baptism_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o our_o be_v already_o in_o christ_n and_o so_o member_n of_o the_o church_n before_o they_o be_v baptise_a then_o i_o hope_v our_o child_n may_v be_v in_o christ_n &_o repute_a member_n of_o the_o church_n though_o they_o be_v not_o baptise_a and_o then_o what_o need_n be_v there_o of_o these_o clamour_n against_o the_o baptist_n for_o keep_v their_o child_n out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o lie_v hinder_v their_o salvation_n when_o they_o be_v in_o christ_n and_o member_n of_o his_o church_n before_o baptism_n by_o virtue_n of_o their_o parent_n faith_n and_o if_o you_o say_v we_o deny_v they_o a_o privilege_n that_o be_v due_a to_o they_o we_o say_v we_o do_v not_o our_o great_a desire_n be_v they_o shall_v be_v baptise_a and_o do_v instruct_v they_o in_o the_o principle_n of_o christianity_n for_o that_o end_n that_o as_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v capable_a to_o improve_v the_o privilege_n they_o may_v have_v it_o and_o as_o for_o the_o circumstance_n of_o time_n yourselves_o say_v that_o be_v not_o materal_a whether_o it_o be_v do_v on_o the_o 8_o 10_o or_o 20_o day_n and_o why_o may_v not_o the_o baptist_n defer_v it_o to_o the_o 20_o year_n there_o be_v as_o much_o warrant_n in_o scripture_n for_o the_o one_o as_o for_o the_o other_o though_o indeed_o no_o positive_a rule_n for_o either_o only_o the_o time_n of_o believe_v be_v the_o most_o 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