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A16643 A plaine confutation of a treatise of Brovvnisme, published by some of that faction, entituled: A description of the visible Church In the confutation wherof, is shewed, that the author hath neither described a true gouerment of the Church, nor yet proued, that outward discipline is the life of the Church. Whereunto is annexed an ansvvere vnto two other pamphlets, by the said factioners latelie dispersed, of certaine conferences had with some of them in prison. Wherein is made knowen the inconstancie of this sect, what the articles are which they still maintaine: as also a short confutation of them. There is also added a short ansvvere vnto such argumentes as they haue vsed to proue the Church of England not to be the Church of God. Alison, Richard, controversialist. 1590 (1590) STC 355; ESTC S100153 67,007 148

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with_o a_o oath_n the_o matter_n in_o question_n between_o they_o second_o that_o they_o will_v not_o acknowledge_v those_o to_o have_v authority_n to_o take_v a_o oath_n to_o who_o her_o majesty_n have_v commit_v the_o same_o three_o that_o they_o condemn_v the_o form_n of_o swear_v before_o the_o magistrate_n which_o by_o the_o law_n of_o englang_n be_v use_v for_o as_o abraham_n in_o urge_v his_o servant_n eleazar_n to_o swear_v gen._n 24._o 2._o and_o jacob_n take_v a_o oath_n of_o joseph_n gen._n 47._o 29._o say_v put_v thy_o hand_n under_o my_o thigh_n a_o ceremony_n use_v among_o the_o ethiopian_n and_o indian_n until_o this_o day_n can_v not_o be_v charge_v to_o have_v use_v a_o idolatrous_a rite_n inasmuch_o as_o the_o oath_n be_v not_o take_v by_o the_o thigh_n but_o by_o the_o god_n of_o heaven_n and_o the_o creator_n of_o the_o earth_n so_o likewise_o the_o hand_n be_v lay_v upon_o the_o book_n the_o oath_n be_v not_o urge_v to_o be_v take_v by_o the_o book_n but_o by_o he_o who_o the_o doctrine_n of_o that_o book_n make_v know_v unto_o we_o of_o both_o which_o rite_n we_o need_v not_o fear_v to_o say_v prophanos_fw-la ritus_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la qui_fw-la dei_fw-la gloriae_fw-la quicquam_fw-la detraherent_fw-la quia_fw-la interponitur_fw-la dei_fw-la nomen_fw-la etc._n etc._n neither_o do_v the_o place_n of_o scripture_n cite_v infringe_v this_o for_o amo._n 5._o 4._o be_v not_o at_o all_o speak_v of_o a_o oath_n but_o general_o that_o man_n shall_v seek_v out_o that_o which_o be_v good_a and_o not_o evil_a the_o other_o three_o place_n viz._n zoph_n 1._o 5._o matth._n 5._o 34._o and_o 23._o 16._o disprove_v not_o a_o outward_a ceremony_n in_o a_o oath_n only_a zephanie_n tell_v that_o god_n condemn_v those_o which_o do_v outward_o worship_v idol_n though_o they_o