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A04214 A defence of a treatise touching the sufferings and victorie of Christ in the worke of our redemption Wherein in confirmed, 1 That Christ suffered for vs, not only bodily griefe, but also in his soule an impression of the proper wrath of God, which may be called the paines of Hell. 2 That after his death on the crosse he went not downe into Hell. For answere to the late writings of Mr Bilson, L. Bishop of Winchester, which he intitleth, The effect of certaine sermons, &c. Wherein he striueth mightly against the doctrine aforesaid. By Henry Iacob minister of the worde of God. Jacob, Henry, 1563-1624. 1600 (1600) STC 14333; ESTC S103093 208,719 214

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experience_n of_o they_o this_o same_o also_o sundry_a of_o the_o father_n avouch_v with_o we_o most_o full_o and_o even_o those_o which_o yourself_o bring_v for_o a_o yourself_o 25._o pag._n 25._o cyrills_n word_n before_o touch_v be_v most_o large_a 10.3_o cyrill_n the●●ur_fw-fr 10.3_o omnia_fw-la christus_fw-la perpessus_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la nos_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la liberaret_fw-la christ_n thorough_o suffer_v all_o such_o passion_n which_o man_n do_v suffer_v that_o he_o may_v deliver_v we_o from_o all_o ●ature_n humane_a ●ature_n all_o the_o passion_n of_o †_o flesh_n be_v stir_v in_o christ_n yet_o without_o sin_n and_o so_o that_o unless_o he_o have_v dye_v we_o have_v not_o be_v deliver_v from_o death_n unless_o he_o have_v fear_v and_o sorrow_v we_o have_v not_o be_v quit_v from_o fear_n and_o sorrow_n here_o he_o say_v all_o our_o passion_n be_v stir_v in_o christ_n humane_a nature_n even_o so_o far_o as_o we_o be_v cure_v and_o so_o far_o as_o may_v be_v 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