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A85548 The shipwrack of all false churches: and the immutable safety and stability of the true Church of Christ. Occasioned: by Doctour Chamberlen his mistake of her, and the holy scriptures also, by syllogising words, to find out spirituall meanings, when in such cases it is the definition, not the name, by which things are truly knowne. Graunt, John, of Bucklersbury. 1652 (1652) Wing G1594; Thomason E674_21; ESTC R207205 29,575 28

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full of excellent Philosophy both morall and naturall Mat. 5. 6. 7. Chap. 5. and all throughout the Gospel So Paul Acts 14. 17. c. Be not offended at Philosophy which is the work and providence of God unlesse it be vaine Philosophy which is against God If any of my Syllogisms were fallacious surely you were more quick then Mr Cranford and all the Schollars there to discerne it and truly know it better then my selfe for I know of none nor meant none shew it and I shall amend it Your last Letter from John 10. 5. I confesse in all senses true and whosoever is but taught of man is but mans sheep Whether any pretend to be mine or Mr Cranfords they have nothing to boast of But if I speak the words of Christ in the power of Christ it is no more I but Jesus Christ that dwelleth in me And g then they that hear not me hear not him that sent me Thus you see how large a Letter I have written to you in love unto the truth and compassion to your soule that you may know me to be Your true Freind in the Lord Peter Chamberlen NOw the reason why I doe not answer this last Letter of the Doctours in a private way as he sent it me is because he hath so boldly and publickly wronged the truth that she hath no way to be righted and relieved but by publick reparation And if I should reprove all I know of the Gentleman both old and new some other things would fall in with my pens reprehension also But we will lay aside all these and many more till another opportunity and now proceed to the tryall of his Syllogismes THE Shipwrack of all False Churches AND The Immutable Safety and Stability of the true Church of CHRIST THE Disputes and Arguings of Dr Chamberlen March 1. 1651. which are since published and as he saith for the satisfaction of all that love the truth but tendeth wholly contrary thereunto and it is so far from being justified that it is condemned by all the Children of Wisdome as I shall shew plainly and that from his owne printed Papers gathering these three Conclusions out from amongst abundance of unsound positions vain repetitions and absurd inferences and although he hath scattered them up and down yet we will orderly reduce them and Quaerie 1. What he saith of the Church of Christ 2. Of the Ordinances And 3. Of the Ministry thereof And this shall be my method with Gods helpe 1. I will shew how the Doctour in all these particulars misseth the truth and then I will manifest and confirm the truth it selfe as the Scriptures doe determine of all and each respectively In the 20●h page of his Book of Vaine Syllogismes he hath these words Dr Chamberlen here took liberty to make a short Discourse concerning the Church which indeed is very much and large but to little purpose and therein declareth himselfe not to be acquainted with true Divinity for what are all Heathenish or carnall Christian Assemblies to the Congregation of Christs Members which are his Church or the multitudes of carnall Christians in their devotion and worship in the litterall externall Ordinances and yet notwithstanding be a sinfull Nation a people laden with iniquity a seed of evill doers children that are corrupters such as in heart have forsaken the Lord and have provoked the Holy One of Israel to anger and are gone astray backward that is have estranged alienated or separated themselves from God through their impenitency and hardnesse of heart notwithstanding all their pretence of outward sanctity in Externall Ordinances and Church Discipline where there is no such thing at all in truth and in sincerity although drawne out from others into seperated Congregations according to the traditions of mens devices filling themselves with the old wine of harisaicall righteousnesse And although among other Churches the Doctour is pleased to affirm that the Church of Christ comprehendeth all the Saints but in that he sheweth not his meaning what a Saint is he thereby cleareth not himselfe from being ignorant thereof forasmuch as Antichrist himselfe gives the Title of Saints to his ungodly Church also But if the Doctour would have edified the Congregation he should in the first place have distinguished between the true Church and all such as are false by a right definition and description of the Saints and true Church of Christ from all others that assume to take upon them her Name and yet are ignorant of her Nature which he wholly omitting hath lost his labour and rendered himselfe unwise to the Children of wisdome And for wanting better principles in his Premises he makes his conclusion as equally corrupt in these words page 21. The Church of Christ saith he is then and so long the Church of Christ as she saith and doth what Christ gave her to say and doe even as Christ himselfe By which saying he maketh the being and continuance of the Church to depend on her own obedience and for proof thereof quo●es John 7. 17. 8. 26 28. 14. 10. 24. 5. 19 20. and concludeth thus and when she saith or doth otherwise she speaketh or playeth the Harlot in that particular Which is not the doctrine of the spirit of Christ but of the spirit of Antichrist For the Doctour makes the Church to be her owne Keeper but the spirit of God saith the Lord is the shepheard and keeper of her The Spirit of Christ saith she is chast and undefiled the Doctour on the contrary affirmeth she may play the whore and be a Harlot The Spirit saith she is led into all truth that she is the ground pillar and upholder of it and so impregnable that the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against her that every member is living every stone precious But on the contrary the Doctour saith she is mutable and so changeable as that she may say and doe contrary to it that leads her that guides her that speaks in her Oh miserable doctrine and no lesse miserable are those that receive it for if the blind lead the blind they will both fall into the ditch yet the Doctour would have the people beleive he is not blind but seeth and therefore quotes many Scriptures to prove it as are before mentioned which being the letter of the Text without any exposition we will examine the meaning thereof Our Lord being at Jerusalem at the Feast of Tabernacles the Jewes saith the Text marvelled concerning him and his Doctrine some said he was a good man others that he deceived the people but Jesus answered My doctrine is not mine but his that sent me and so adviseth them how they might have benefit by it If any man will doe his will he shall know of the doctrine whether it be of God or whether I speak of my selfe where there is not one word of the Church of Christ for they that doe not obey his will are not his Church nor