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A72264 The touch-stone of the reformed Ghospell. Wherin sundry chiefe heads and tenets of the protestants doctrine (obiected by them commonly against the Catholicks) are briefly refuted. By the expresse texts of the protestants owne Bible, set forth and approued by the Church of England. With the ancient fathers Iudgments thereon, in confirmation of the Catholike Doctrine; Gagge of the new gospel Heigham, John, fl. 1639. 1634 (1634) STC 13033.8; ESTC S125239 50,830 222

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house_n of_o rest_n for_o the_o ark_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o for_o the_o footstool_n of_o our_o god_n now_o the_o principal_a reason_n why_o the_o ark_n be_v worship_v be_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o image_n that_o be_v set_v upon_o it_o which_o the_o jew_n do_v worship_n as_o s._n hierom_n witness_v in_o his_o epistle_n ad_fw-la marcellam_fw-la philip._n 2.10_o that_o at_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n every_o knee_n shall_v bow_v of_o thing_n in_o heaven_n and_o thing_n in_o earth_n and_o thing_n under_o the_o earth_n now_o that_o be_v the_o name_n of_o jesus_n which_o either_o be_v pronounce_v by_o another_o mouth_n print_v in_o a_o book_n or_o paint_a and_o engrave_v in_o a_o image_n but_o at_o any_o of_o these_o we_o be_v command_v to_o bow_v the_o knee_n again_o if_o image_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v worship_v we_o may_v not_o whatsoever_o the_o apostle_n say_v bow_v our_o knee_n at_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n see_v word_n as_o aristole_n say_v and_o as_o the_o truth_n be_v be_v sign_n representative_a of_o the_o thing_n they_o signify_v and_o be_v the_o image_n of_o the_o ear_n as_o the_o other_o be_v of_o the_o eye_n num._n 21.8_o and_o the_o lord_n say_v unto_o moses_n make_v thou_o a_o fiery_a serpent_n and_o set_v it_o up_o upon_o a_o pole_n and_o it_o shall_v come_v to_o pass_v that_o every_o one_o that_o be_v bite_v when_o he_o look_v upon_o it_o shall_v live_v hence_o be_v evident_o prove_v diverse_a thing_n against_o our_o reformer_n 1._o that_o god_n command_v the_o make_n of_o this_o image_n 2._o the_o set_n of_o it_o up_o for_o a_o sign_n 3._o he_o promise_v that_o the_o looker_n thereon_o shall_v assure_o receive_v succour_n and_o help_v 4._o he_o warrant_v the_o make_n the_o set_n up_o the_o behold_v and_o the_o reverence_v thereof_o to_o be_v exempt_v from_o breach_n of_o the_o first_o commandment_n by_o work_v so_o many_o and_o so_o manifest_a miracle_n at_o and_o before_o the_o presence_n thereof_o therefore_o a_o image_n 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usual_o our_o reformer_n bring_v against_o the_o honour_n of_o holy_a image_n their_o 1._o objection_n be_v take_v out_o of_o 2._o king_n we_o 4.18_o where_o king_n ezechias_n break_v down_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n whereof_o we_o last_o make_v mention_n see_v it_o to_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o idolatry_n answer_n this_o indeed_o be_v a_o common_a place_n from_o whence_o our_o adversary_n collect_v sundry_a false_a and_o sophistical_a argument_n to_o wit_n from_o the_o abuse_n of_o any_o good_a thing_n to_o destroy_v it_o utter_o together_o with_o the_o right_a use_n thereof_o but_o by_o the_o same_o argument_n they_o may_v as_o well_o collect_v that_o the_o sun_n and_o the_o moon_n shall_v be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o firmament_n because_o they_o be_v worship_v by_o the_o gentile_n for_o go_n likewise_o that_o the_o holy_a bible_n shall_v be_v burn_v because_o many_o a_o one_o draw_v damnable_a heresy_n forth_o of_o the_o same_o to_o his_o own_o perdition_n yea_o this_o silly_a argument_n borrow_v from_o the_o abuse_n of_o thing_n serve_v very_o fit_o to_o prove_v the_o quite_o contrary_a thus_o image_n have_v be_v sometime_o abuse_v therefore_o they_o be_v good_a in_o themselves_o for_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v evil_a by_o abuse_n only_o must_v needs_o be_v good_a be_v well_o use_v their_o 2._o objection_n you_o give_v that_o honour_n to_o image_n which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o worship_v adore_a and_o creep_v to_o they_o as_o to_z god_n answer_n we_o say_v the_o contrary_a which_o thus_o we_o prove_v the_o difference_n of_o honour_n proceed_v principal_o from_o the_o mind_n and_o not_o from_o the_o exterior_a bow_n or_o demeanour_n of_o the_o body_n for_o if_o i_o prostrate_v myself_o before_o a_o image_n or_o kiss_v the_o same_o well_o know_v the_o while_n that_o it_o be_v no_o god_n nor_o reasonable_a creature_n but_o only_o a_o rememhrance_n of_o god_n towards_o who_o i_o desire_v to_o show_v my_o affection_n god_n know_v how_o far_o off_o my_o honour_n be_v from_o that_o honour_n which_o be_v due_a to_o he_o alone_o as_o contrary_v wise_a if_o i_o lay_v prostrate_a at_o christ_n foot_n indeed_o kiss_v they_o knock_v my_o breast_n hold_v up_o my_o hand_n unto_o he_o call_v he_o the_o son_n of_o god_n yet_o all_o this_o while_n think_v he_o not_o to_o be_v so_o in_o my_o hart_n my_o honour_n true_o shall_v be_v no_o honour_n at_o all_o but_o a_o very_a contumely_n and_o affront_v unto_o christ_n add_v hereunto_o that_o the_o word_n which_o betoken_v honour_n adoration_n worship_n and_o the_o like_a be_v in_o a_o manner_n confound_v in_o all_o language_n but_o the_o hart_n from_o whence_o the_o honour_n proceed_v know_v well_o the_o difference_n of_o every_o thing_n d._n sanders_n de_fw-fr imag._n pag._n 10._o their_o 3._o objection_n it_o be_v express_o forbid_v by_o god_n himself_o to_o fall_v down_o before_o any_o image_n or_o to_o worship_v it_o answer_n our_o reformer_n themselves_o confess_v to_o honour_v the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n supper_n which_o they_o teach_v to_o be_v a_o image_n or_o representation_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n and_o see_v they_o believe_v no_o other_o substance_n to_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n beside_o bread_n and_o wine_n nor_o will_v not_o give_v the_o honour_n of_o latria_fw-la as_o we_o call_v it_o thereunto_o hence_o it_o follow_v invincible_o that_o they_o do_v worship_n or_o honour_v some_o image_n now_o as_o they_o will_v not_o for_o all_o this_o have_v we_o to_o judge_v or_o call_v they_o idolater_n even_o so_o let_v it_o please_v they_o for_o their_o own_o sake_n to_o spare_v us._n for_o as_o they_o do_v not_o place_n or_o stay_v this_o honour_n in_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n but_o from_o thence_o refer_v it_o to_o christ_n himself_o even_o so_o do_v we_o transfer_v all_o our_o honour_n from_o all_o image_n unto_o the_o first_o form_n or_o pattern_n not_o suffer_v the_o same_o to_o rest_n or_o end_n in_o the_o image_n which_o we_o honour_v saunder_n ibid._n pag._n 52._o their_o 4._o objection_n a_o image_n be_v a_o creature_n and_o no_o god_n and_o to_o set_v up_o a_o creature_n to_o be_v worship_v or_o adore_v be_v flat_a idolatry_n answer_n image_n be_v set_v up_o in_o church_n not_o special_o to_o the_o intent_n that_o the_o people_n shall_v worship_v or_o adore_v they_o but_o partly_o to_o instruct_v the_o simple_a and_o partly_o to_o stir_v up_o our_o mind_n to_o follow_v the_o example_n of_o those_o holy_a man_n who_o image_n we_o do_v there_o behold_v so_o that_o the_o worship_n and_o reverence_n which_o be_v there_o give_v to_o image_n be_v give_v as_o it_o be_v by_o a_o consequence_n and_o rather_o because_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_o give_v then_o because_o it_o be_v principal_o seek_v to_o be_v give_v as_o for_o the_o idolatry_n which_o be_v object_v we_o be_v to_o understand_v that_o the_o word_n be_v compound_v of_o latria_n and_o idolum_fw-la and_o be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v as_o the_o give_v of_o latria_n or_o of_o god_n honour_n unto_o a_o idol_n but_o our_o image_n be_v no_o idol_n nor_o the_o honour_n we_o give_v unto_o they_o be_v that_o of_o latria_n how_o then_o can_v it_o be_v say_v that_o image_n be_v set_v up_o to_o be_v use_v to_o idolatry_n ¶_o thus_o much_o have_v i_o think_v good_a to_o add_v in_o this_o place_n for_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o ignorant_a and_o unlearned_a people_n who_o use_v to_o stumble_v at_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n because_o indeed_o they_o understand_v it_o not_o and_o what_o be_v say_v for_o the_o worship_n of_o they_o may_v also_o serve_v for_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o make_v they_o since_o the_o one_o suppose_v the_o proof_n of_o the_o other_o l
that_o no_o man_n have_v see_v god_n in_o any_o form_n and_o that_o therefore_o his_o picture_n or_o image_n can_v be_v make_v contrary_a to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n gen._n 3.8_o where_o god_n appear_v unto_o adam_n walk_v in_o the_o garden_n of_o paradise_n in_o a_o corporal_a form_n and_o gen._n 28.12.13_o to_o jacob_n stand_v above_o the_o ladder_n whereon_o the_o angel_n ascend_v and_o descend_v for_o we_o must_v know_v that_o it_o be_v only_o the_o outward_a shape_n and_o form_n of_o the_o thing_n which_o be_v express_v either_o in_o this_o or_o the_o like_a image_n and_o not_o the_o inward_a substance_n thereof_o which_o be_v not_o possible_a for_o any_o painter_n or_o carver_n to_o express_v which_o though_o it_o express_v not_o all_o that_o be_v therein_o yet_o that_o which_o it_o express_v be_v a_o truth_n and_o thus_o may_v god_n be_v express_v to_o us._n yea_o why_o may_v not_o god_n be_v express_v in_o the_o same_o form_n &_o manner_n wherein_o he_o have_v manifest_v himself_o to_o mortal_a eye_n therefore_o his_o picture_n or_o image_n may_v be_v make_v exod._n 33.11_o god_n appear_v &_o speak_v unto_o moses_n face_n to_o face_n as_o one_o man_n speak_v to_o another_o to_o the_o prophet_n isaiah_n 6.1.5_o sit_v upon_o a_o throne_n to_o daniel_n 7.9_o sit_v wear_v garment_n and_o have_v hair_n on_o his_o head_n like_o pure_a will_v how_o then_o can_v any_o wise_a man_n doubt_n but_o that_o that_o thing_n may_v be_v lawful_o set_v forth_o or_o express_v in_o a_o outward_a image_n which_o necessary_o must_v be_v conceive_v by_o a_o inward_a 1._o king_n we_o 3._o 22.19_o i_o see_v the_o lord_n sit_v on_o his_o throne_n and_o all_o the_o host_n of_o heaven_n stand_v by_o he_o on_o his_o right_a hand_n and_o on_o his_o left_a but_o perhaps_o they_o will_v say_v that_o god_n command_v we_o to_o hear_v his_o word_n and_o the_o history_n which_o speak_v of_o his_o apparition_n but_o not_o to_o paint_v they_o i_o answer_v that_o see_v we_o learn_v by_o our_o eye_n as_o well_o as_o by_o our_o ear_n there_o be_v no_o reason_n why_o that_o may_v not_o be_v paint_v before_o our_o eye_n which_o may_v be_v preach_v to_o our_o ear_n again_o see_v we_o may_v find_v the_o aforesaid_a vision_n and_o history_n in_o the_o bible_n why_o may_v we_o not_o as_o well_o see_v they_o paint_v in_o picture_n as_o write_v in_o a_o book_n of_o white_a paper_n li._n that_o blessing_n or_o sign_v with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v not_o found_v in_o holy_a scripture_n contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n revelat_fw-la 7.3_o where_o one_o angel_n say_v to_o four_o other_o angel_n hurt_v not_o the_o earth_n neither_o the_o sea_n nor_o the_o tree_n till_o we_o have_v seal_v we_o read_v sign_v the_o servant_n of_o our_o god_n in_o their_o forehead_n again_o marc._n 10.16_o and_o he_o take_v they_o up_o in_o his_o arm_n put_v his_o hand_n upon_o they_o and_o bless_v they_o therefore_o sign_v and_o blessing_n be_v found_v in_o holy_a scripture_n luc._n 24.50_o and_o he_o lead_v they_o out_o as_o far_o as_o to_o bethany_n and_o he_o lift_v up_o his_o hand_n and_o bless_v they_o therefore_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o see_v the_o father_n that_o affirm_v the_o same_o diony_n areopagita_n cap._n 4.5.6_o eccles_n hier._n tertul._n lib._n de_fw-la corona_fw-la milit_fw-la origen_n in_o exod._n cap._n 5._o hom_n 6.5_o s._n cyril_n cat._n 1._o s._n basil_n lib._n the_o spir_n sanct_a cap._n 37._o s._n chrysost_o hom_n 55._o in_o mat._n cap._n 16._o lii_o that_o concupiscence_n remain_v after_o baptism_n be_v true_o and_o proper_o sin_n though_o not_o impute_v to_o the_o faithful_a contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n james_n 1._o 14.15_o but_o every_o one_o be_v tempt_v when_o he_o be_v draw_v away_o of_o his_o own_o lust_n and_o entice_v then_o when_o lust_n have_v conceive_v it_o bring_v forth_o sin_n and_o sin_n when_o it_o be_v finish_v bring_v forth_o death_n here_o 4._o thing_n be_v distinguish_v concupiscence_n that_o be_v a_o power_n of_o cover_v prone_a to_o evil_n and_o her_o 3._o motion_n suggestion_n delectation_n and_o consent_v now_o concupiscence_n and_o her_o first_o motion_n s._n james_n do_v not_o call_v sin_n but_o a_o temptation_n to_o sinne._n delight_n but_o not_o full_o deliberate_v he_o call_v sin_n but_o not_o mortal_a the_o which_o only_a consent_n cause_v ¶_o see_v in_o confirmation_n hereof_o s._n cyril_n l._n 4._o in_o joan._n e._n 51._o s._n austin_n l._n 5._o cont_n julian._n c._n 3._o &_o 5._o where_o he_o call_v concupiscence_n not_o sin_n but_o the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n beside_o the_o whole_a stream_n of_o father_n liii_o that_o bishop_n and_o priest_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o live_v a_o single_a life_n but_o may_v lawful_o marry_v wife_n contrary_n to_o the_o word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n exod._n 19.22_o and_o let_v the_o priest_n which_o come_v near_o to_o the_o lord_n sanctify_v themselves_o lest_o the_o lord_n 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