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A79512 Preaching vvithout ordination or, A treatise proving the lawfulnesse of all persons, of what degree, ranke, or trade soever, being inabled with sufficient guifts and qualifications from God by his spirit, to preach and set forth the Gospel, though no minister nor any other officer in the church of God. By Edmond Chillinden. Chillenden, Edmund, fl. 1656. 1647 (1647) Wing C3879; Thomason E405_10; ESTC R201879 25,344 34

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God in them and not because they were now Officers for that they were before this time as is playne by the text and Gods words to Moses in the 16. verse The next Scripture I come now to handle is the 2. Chron. 17.7 verse and to the 8.9 verse where it is said that Iehosaphat sent to his Princes to teach in the Cities of Judah and they taught in Judah and had the Booke of the Law of the Lord with them and went about throughout all the Cities of Judah and taught the people whence it is evident that the Princes of Judah that were no ordained Ministers preached the Law of the Lord to the people with the Levites a practise that those who in our dayes call themselves the Tribe of Levit I could desire that they would press it upon the Princes of our times those who are furnished with the spirit of God to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the people Amo 8.11.12 in our severall Cities that so there might not be that famine of the word that is in the many parts of this Kingdome you see Jehosaphat did not question their Ordination neither did the Levites forbid any such thing so my thinks it would evidence a good heart in the Levites of our times to presse Princes and people all that have guifts to preach Jesus Christ to the people that the earth might be full of the knowledge of the glory of the Lord Habak 2.14 as the waters cover the Sea and not to be of the envious spirit with Josuah to perswade the Magistrates to forbid them Esa 11.9 because they are not ordained by their humane Ordination there was never any such thing heard of nor declared in the Scriptures for it is evident in the writings of Moses and the Prophets Luke 2.46 that any of their wise men as they are called in the Scriptures might and ought to teach in their Synagogues without any regard or respect had to any Office or Ordination in the Church we finde Jehosaphat himselfe Mat. 9.35 Luke 4.16.17 Numb 11.29 Mat 23.34 1 Cor. 1.20 Ier. 18.18 Phil. 3.5 2. Chron. 19.6 7 8 9.10 11. verses confirming this to us how he preached to the Judges and to the Levites and also his divine and excellent prayer to God in the publike congregation of Ezekiah his Sermon in the very Temple of God and so of Nehemiah and others who taught the people the Law of the Lord a good patterne for our Princes now and do we not reade freequently in the Scriptures every where that the Scribes Pharises and Lawyers in any of which were no ordained Ministers neither Priests nor Levites Mat. 13.54 to end Marke 6.2 to 5. Luke 4.16 to 22. Luke 2.46 Act. 15.16 and 17.2 yet taught publikely amongst the Jewes as appeares by the Scriptures and if it were not so practised how comes it to passe that Jesus the Sonne of Joseph who was no ordained person that is no Priest nor Levite in their Church that they permitted him to dispute in the Temple with the great Doctors and to teach and preach frequently in the Synagogues as he did and the like may be seene of Paul and Barnabas that were no ordained Ministers that the people of the Jewes tooke notice of yet they preached frequently and publikely and so it appeares to be the constant practice hitherto set out in the Scriptures to preach without Ordination Obj. But some may say that Jesus Christ was extraordinarily indued with guists and the like of Paul and Barnabas and taught by their extraordinary guifts and were so permitted by the Jewes to preach Esa 9.6 and 61.1.2.3 Answ He that so sayeth that they were extraordinarily indued with guifts speakes the truth though to little or no purpose to the matter in hand for what was that to wit their extraordinary guifts to the received order and practise in the Temple Synagogues amongst the Jewes that did not believe in Christ nor acknowledge him nor his Apostles in any such way Object Some may further say that Iesus was the Sonne of God sent of God to preach and Paul and Barnabas were Apostles and so might preach because they had an Office that did bind them to it Answ I answer againe that this is true but besides the matter did the Iewes look on Christ as he was the Sonne of God did they looke on Paul and Barnabas as Desciples of Christ Mat. 13.34 to end Marke 6.1 to 5. Iohn 7.46 to end Mat. 13.34 to end Marke 6.1 to 5. Acts 4.13 to 18. compared with 5.28 Acts 13.16 I am sure no man will dare to affirme it because the Scripture is against it Wee find declared in the Scriptures that the Iews looked on Christ with scorne and contempt in relation to his being the Sonne of God and say of him Is not this Iesus the Son of Mary the Carpenters Son even of Ioseph Nay is not this Jesus the Carpenter did they not hate and despise both him and his Apostles and in the consideration of his being a minister of the Church of God or his Apostles any Officers they did not beleeve at all but onely according to the common custome amongst them they permited Jesus to preach and dispute and so was it that Ruler of the Synagogue sent to Paul and Barnabas that if they had a word of exortation to the people to say on and not because they were Officers or had any ordination in the Rulers understanding and so much shall suffice for this particular I now come to the next Scripture Acts the 18.24 to the end where it is thus said A certain Iew named Appolloes borne at Al●●●ndria an eloquent man and mighty in the Scriptures came to Ephesus this man was instructed in the way of the Lord and being fervent in the Spirit he spake and taught dilligently the things of the Lord knowing onely the baptisme of Iohn and he began to speak boldly in the Synagogue whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard they took him unto them and expounded unto him the way of God were perfectly And in the 28 ver it is thus said For he mightily convinced the Iews that publickly shewing by the Scriptures that Jesus was the Christ Reader thou seest what is recorded in the Scriptures of this man Appollos how he preached Jesus Christ diligently and that publickly in the Synagogues and yet thou seest there is no office nor Ordination which is at this time once hinted as that he had and yet he preached the Gospel by reason of his fervency in the Spirit so that was the cause of his so boldly speaking and teaching in the Synagogue and that he had no Office nor Ordination at this time I shall give thee these reasons 1. Because the Scripture is altogether silent in it and doth not once hint any such thing 2. Because we onely finde this mentioned of him in the Scripture that he was instructed in the