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A93274 Diatribē VVherein the iudgement of the reformed churches and Protestant divines, is shewed, concerning preaching by those who are not ordained ministers. Simpson, Sidrach, 1600?-1655. 1647 (1647) Wing S3823A; ESTC R204882 8,147 15

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ΔΙΑΤΡΙΒΗ VVherein the Iudgement of THE Reformed Churches AND Protestant Divines is shewed Concerning PREACHING By those who are not Ordained MINISTERS London Printed for Peter Cole and are to be sold at his shop at the sign of the Printing-Press in Cornhil neer the Royal Exchange 1647. Concerning Preaching by those who are not Ordained Ministers A Man may lawfully Preach the Word who is not called to be a Minister For 1. He may Preach who is sent But one may be sent who is not sent Ministerially as an Officer as appears Rom. 10.14 15. How can they preach except they be sent c. The sending is not a Ministerial Ecclesiastical sending for then none could be an instrument to convert another but a Minister For it s said None can believe but by hearing a Preacher sent And again in the 18. Verse The sending is expressed by the going out of the Sun as appears by Psal 19.4 Where the same words are Now the course of the Sun is natural and by providence Yea lastly Whereas the Apostles scope is to take away doubting from men as appears by Verse 6 7. Say not in thy heart who shall ascend c He had by this laid the greatest ground of doubting that could be for every man must doubt whether he have Faith or no and whether he shall be saved or no by that Faith till he be sure his Faith was wrought in him by a Minister lawfully called into office and that he cannot be unless he be sure he that made him Minister was lawfully called c. For saith the Text That is not saving Faith which comes not by hearing of one sent It remains therefore that the Apostle speaks of a providential sending by giving men gifts and working with them in their use and exercise 2. The Prophets might preach 1 Cor. 14.3.31 But they were neither such as were immediately inspired with prediction for women that were so inspired might deliver their Prophesie in the Church but there women are forbidden to speak Verse 34. Nor were those Prophets Ministers for Verse 23.26 he speaks of Prophecy as a gift in all or most of the members of the Church and forbids it to none but women Verse 31.34 Lastly Those gifts which are required in a Prophet Verse 3.26 are such as men ordinarily may attain by industry and study Verse 1. and do attain unto in the Church 3. Ruling Elders may preach who are not accounted Ministers They must 1 Tim. 3.2 be apt to teach To make this out to be meant of Ruling Elders Consider that either those qualifications mentioned in that Chapter are the qualifications of Ruling Elders or not If not then is there an office of Ruling Elder appointed without shewing what a one he should be which is not likely seeing the qualities of the Deacon an inferior officer to him are punctually set down there Verse 8. As Timothy could not tell how to behave himself in the Church about other officers 1 Tim. 3.14 unless it had been set down what kinde of persons they should be he could not much less can we tell how to behave our selves in the Church of God about them without such direction Certainly Ruling Elders are not of Christ unless they be described described they are not unless where the Teaching Elder is described If they be described there they must be apt to Teach that is be able by sound Doctrine both to exhort and convince the gainsayer as it is expounded Tit. 1.9 4. It s granted on all hands that such as intend the Ministery though not yet in the Ministery may Preach Therefore Preaching is not an adjunct belonging only to the Ministery or an act formally flowing from it As it implies a contradiction that a formal act should be before the form be introduced so it doth that none but one in Office may Preach and yet one may Preach to get an Office Hath the intention of being a Minister begotten this power as fire makes the wood smoke before it flame No For the intention is but conditional if he Preach well Yea and not only so but if he be otherwise fitted As a Minister is so necessary to the Sacrament of Baptism because its an act of Office that though the childe should dye without Baptism yet it may not have it without a Minister upon the same reason none may Preach in order to the Ministery if to Preach be an act of Office whatsoever may be pretended for it 5. If is also granted that men that are not in the Ministery may write Commentaries on the Scripture on any Text or Book and write more Contionatotio sermonwise if they may Preach by their Pen they may by their Tongue also 6. Of this minde are the Reformed Churches Not only Prophets in Orders but the Common people who sit in their seats may lawfully speak that of the word of God in the Church Non solis per ordinem Prophetis sed vulgo in subselliis sedentibus in Ecclesia de verbo loqui licebit quod spiritus revelasset Qui nos si nūquam remisisset nunquā tot errores in christi Ecclesiam fuissent inducti Sunt enim semper qui per Spiritum coelestem deprehendunt affectuum docentis fraudem qua deinde patefactâ liberaret verbum à violentia depravatione Paulatim vero huc ventum est ut quicquid perversissimus quisque Nugator pro suggestu in loco Prophetae effutiret pro Oraculo haberetur quisquis non haberet sed vel contra mutiret crudelissimè vapulacet Tom. 1. p. 196. ad Emserum which the Spirit hath revealed to them saith Zuinglius And if that custome had never been laid down there had never been so many errors brought into the Church For there are always some who by the heavenly spirit do take notice of the deceit of the affections of the Teacher which being laid open the word would be free from violent depravation By little and little it is come to this that whatsoever every the most corrupt Babler shall utter unadvisedly in the Pulpit in the Place of a Prophet must be counted for an oracle and whosoever doth not esteem it so or whispers the least thing against it shall suffer from mens Tongues most cruelly The like he saith in his Commentary Tom. 2. p. 45. li. Ecclesiastes on 1 Cor. 14.29 Let the rest judge And professeth that they would in a short time take up the practise in the Tigurine Churches Aretius Aretius The Church of God of old did not lay all on one man as now it doth Vetus Ecclesia non uni omnia imponebat ut hodiè fit Minister hodiè solus agit omnia ferè in caetu orat legit interpretatur revelationes profert docet linguas explicat cantum exorditur Olim non ita sed alius legebat locum Scripturae alius interpretabatur aliud addebat suum judicium alius preces habebat alius canebat alius