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A08562 A manuell or briefe volume of controuersies of religion betweene the Protestants and the Papists wherein the arguments of both sides are briefely set downe, and the aduersaries sophismes are plainely refuted. Written in Latine in a briefe and perspicuous method by Lucas Osiander, and now Englished with some additions and corrections.; Enchiridion controversiarum. English Osiander, Lucas, 1571-1638. 1606 (1606) STC 18880; ESTC S101908 177,466 558

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