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A02381	A dialogue betwene a knyght and a clerke concernynge the power spiritual and temporall.; Disputatio inter clericum et miletem. English.	William, of Ockham, ca. 1285-ca. 1349, attributed name.; Dubois, Pierre, fl. 1300, attributed name.; Trevisa, John, d. 1402.	1533 (1533)	STC 12511A; ESTC S109903	15,144	52

sikerly to slepe than it semethe that ye wolde meane that onely ye be verye lordes and kynges and princis be of bonde condicion and vnto you seruantes and thralles If reste be graunted to men of the churche it is no great thynge if the ryches be reserued for vs of the lay fee. This is an harde thynge saye ye but ye wyll not reste tylle ye be as ye are wont conuicted and also confoūded by holy scripture ageinst the whiche ye can not resiste For of Ioas the kynge of whome we spake before hit is wrytten in the. 4. boke of kynges the .12 chaptre and in the seconde booke of Parali the .24 chapyter thus Wherfore Ioas the kynge of Iuda tooke all that was halowed the which thinges Ioram Ochozias his fathers kynges of Iuda had halowed and whiche thynges he hym selfe hadde offered vppe and all the syluer that he coude fynde in the treasaurye of the lorde and Palaice of the kynge and sente it to Azael the kynge of Syrie and he departed from Ierusalem Lo here thou mayst plainly see that for to paye the peoples raunsomme he toke those thynges oute of the temple not withstandynge he spared not the kynges palayce whan he toke those thynges out of the temple ¶ Also in the .4 boke of kynges cap. 18. it is thus redde of the holy kynge Ezechias The same season Ezechias braake the gates of the temple of the lorde and toke the plates of golde that he hym selfe had there stycked vppe and gaue them to the kynge of Assiriens ¶ And if thou woldest saye that Ezechias dyd amysse I aunswere as it is sayde secundo Paralipo cap. 32. Ezechias is not blamed for any of all his workes that he dyd but onely for the message of the princis of Babylon Thanne who shall dampne hym the whiche holye wrytte preysethe in all his dedes If he erre not vnderstandynge the sothenesse and the veritie of holye wrytte wherfore than stryue you agaynste kynges and princis It is red secundo Machab. quinto Godde chose not the people for the place but the place for the people Therfore the churche of lyme and stone shuld not be spared whan the chrysten people be in perylle The which thynge the holy kynge Ezechiel and Ioseph vnderstode and truly dyd fulfyll If your goodes be holy churches goodes and the people is a great parte of holy church shal not than holy churches goodes skylfully be spended for the succour and saufegarde of the people And so it foloweth that it longethe to the ghostlyche of holy churche And our lorde saythe Matthei duodesimo I tell you this is more than the temple For it is no doubt the ghostly temple that is mankynde is more worth than the temple that is made of lyme and stone Therfore a mylde and a prudente kynge mote by these wordes knowe the wylle of all myghty god and hym nedeth not to seke auctorite of other Nor the temple of lyme and stone nor the thynges dedicated therin shulde not be spared to wyn peace and saufegarde to the people that is in perill Nor we shuld not smyle after a flaterynge facion at the superfluite of the churche but se that the great multitude of christen people be holpe and succoured in theyr nede And though the kynge dealeth gratiouslye with you and goodly gouerneth you alway yet ye be not ashamed to withsay hym in that that he may laufully do by the lawe of god almyghty and wyll not with your good wyll therto assent But take hede and beware by the wordes of Salomon The kynges wrathe is the messanger of deathe CLE. If those thynges that are ones gyuen to god may be withdrawen taken away agayne than all vowes may be made voyde fordone MI. That that I haue sayd is not to withdrawe and take away gyftes that are gyuen to allmyghty god but to tourne and apply those gyftes to suche vse for the whiche they were fyrste gyuen For those gyftes that are gyuen to god the very same gyftes are dedicated to holy and charitable vses And what thynge can be more holy thanne the sauation of christen people And what is more precious vnto oure lorde thanne to defende and sauely kepe the christen people from the inuasiō of theyr ennemies theues murtherers to bye peace to the true and faythfull subiectes Therfore whan the goodes of the churche be spent on this wyse than are they bestowed to suche vse for the whiche they were fyrst dedicate and gyuen CLERI If ye take you to holy wryt why do ye withsaye and breake our priuileges and fredomes whiche lybertyes we haue by holy wrytte For our lorde Matt. 17. sayde vnto Peter Howe semeth hit vnto the Symon The kynges of the erthe of whome take they trybute of theyr owne sonnes or elles of other of other sayde Peter Iesus sayde to hym Than are the sonnes free But leste we offende them goo vnto the see and caste in a fysshe hooke and the fyrste fysshe that commeth vppe open his mouthe and thou shalte fynde a stater take that and gyue it for me and for the. Ye se sir knight that the clergie bonde to the seruice of god is free in all poyntes MI. If ye well consider and vnderstande the gospell aryght ye may se that the tribute or dragme was demaunded onely of Christe And onelye for Christe this answere semeth to be gyuen For he is the verye sonne of god the sonne of the greatte myghty kynge And as the kynges sonne is greatter than the bysshop so is goddes sonne greatter than the emperour And so that aunswere was gyuen for Christe and not for you Neuer the lesse bycause they that chieffely serue the kynge in his presence shulde not be put to cōmon and greuous charges so we grant that clerkes in theyr owne persones be free but not they that leade theyr lyfes as lewde men and not as clerkes to the worshyppe but to the gyle and fraude of oure lorde as hit is all day sene But clerkes that folowe Christe as pristes that serue at the aulter and that are fully gyuen and occupied in the seruyce of god we graunt that those be free I saye not clerely by the gospelle but by cause in theyr soo doynge hit discordethe not from the gospelle that fredome is gyuen them by priuileges of princis For sith the begynnyng of the churche Paule ad Ro. 13. sayth Euery soule be subiect to the higher powers not onely sayth he after for wrathe but also for conscience And after folowynge he sayth yelde and paye to all men that is due to them to whome tribute is due pay tribute to whome custome is due paye custome Than ye se that euery soule muste be subiecte beare tribute and pay custome But as I haue sayd ye be nowe free in your owne person by priuileges of princis but shal your feldes haue now the same freedome If holy churche bye a felde that is able to be tylled shall he

A DIALOGVE betwene a knyght and a clerke concernynge the power spiritual and temporall ¶ The clerke begynneth to speke on this wyse sayenge CLERICVS I Wounder syr noble knyghte that in fewe dayes tymes be changed ryght is buryed lawes be ouerturned and statutes be trodde vnder foote MILES Those wordes passe my capacite I am a lewde man and thoughe I wente to schoole in my chyldehode yet gotte I not so profounde lernynge that those youre wordes can of me be vnderstande And therfore worshypfull clerke if ye desyre to haue communication with me ye must vse a more homely playner fascion of spekyng CLE. I haue sene in my time that kinges princis and all other nobles haue had the churche in right great worshyp and nowe I se the contrary the churche is made a pray to you all and many thynges are challenged of vs and nothynge is gyuen vs If we gyue not oure goodes they be taken frome vs by stronge hande Our good and catalle is distroyde our lawes and fredome be not holden but dispysed and withsayde MILES I can not lyghtly beleue that the kynge of whose counsayle they of the clergic be wyl deale vniustly with you nother distroye your lawe CLERI Yea trewely agaynst all lawe we suffre innumerable wronges MILES I wolde fayne knowe what ye calle lawe CLERI I calle lawe the statutes and ordinances of bysshops of Rome decrees of holy fathers MILES What euer they ordeyn or other haue ordeyned in tyme past of temporaltie may well be lawe to you but not to vs. For no man hath power to ordeyne statutes of thynges ouer the whiche he hathe no lordeshyp As the kyng of Fraunce may ordeyne no statutes vppon the empyre nother the emperour vpon the kynge of Englande And lykewyse as Pryncis of the worlde maye ordeyne no statutes of youre spiritualtie ouer the whiche they haue no power no more ye maye ordeyne no statutes of theyr temporalties ouer the which ye haue nother power nor auctoritie Wherfore it is a thynge in vayne what euer ye ordeyn of temporal thynges ouer whiche ye haue of god resceiued no power And therfore but late I lough well faste whan I harde that Poope Boniface the .viij. had made a newe statute that he hym selfe shulde be aboue all seculer lordes princis kinges and emperours and aboue all kyngedomes make lawe vppon all thynges and that hym nedeth nought but wryte for all thynges shall be his whan he hath wryten and so all thyng shall be yours For to make a statute his statute is nought elles but to wyll that the decree be holden and kepte and ordeyne and whote that it be holden If he woll haue my castell my towne my felde my money or any other suche thynges hym nedeth nought but wyll it and write it and make a decree and whote that it be holden and whan that is done he hath ryght to al such thynges Now good clerke thou wottest well howe worthy this iape is to be scorned CLE. Syr knight ye speke sharpely slyly and wysely ynough all your talkyng and meanynge is as fer as I perceyue that the pope hath no power to ordeyne and make statutes of your temporalties For ye knowe not that he hath lordeshyp power and auctoritie vppon your temporalties Though we wolde proue it by our lawe and by decrees wryten ye accompte them for nought For ye wene that Peter had no lordeshyp ne power ouer temporalte but by suche lawe wryten But if thou wilt be a trewe christen man and of ryght beleue thou shalte not deny but that Christ is lord of al thinges To hym it was sayde in the sauter boke Aske of me I shall giue nations to thyn heritage and all the world about to thy possessiō psal 2. And also of hym it is wrytten the fyrst pistill to Timothe the .vi. chapiter that he is kynge of kynges and lorde of lordes These be not ours but goddes owne wordes nor we wrote them not but god sente them and the holy gooste spake them And who douteth whether he may ordeyne and make statutes whome he knoweth to be lorde of all thynges MILES I withsay not the maiestie lordeshyp and myght of our lorde god for he maye not be withsayde on no maner wyse But if it may be shewed by holy writte that the pope is lorde of all temporalties than kynges prncis muste nedes be subiecte to the poope as well in temporaltie as spiritualtie CLE. That may be shewed lyghtly by the auctoritees that be a lytell rather rehersed The fayth of holy churche holdeth that Peter the apostell was ordeined Christis ful vicare for hym selfe and for his successours And he that is fulle vicare may do the same that his lord may whan he is made vicar with ful power withoute any withdrawynge of power Than if ye can not deny but that Christe that is lorde of heuen and of erthe may ordeyne and make statutes of your temporalties how can ye for shame deny Christis vicare to haue the same power MILES I haue hard of holy and deuout men that we sh●ld distingue two dyuers tymes of Christe one of his humilite and an other of his power and maiestie The tyme of his humilytie was from the tyme that he toke flesshe and blode vnto his passion the tyme of his power and maiestie was and is after his Resurrection whan he said All power is yeue to me in heuen and in erthe Mat. vlt. Peter was ordeyned Christis vicare for the state of his humilite and not for the state of his blysse and maiestie but to folowe hym in doynge those thynges whiche Christe in humilite dydde here in erth for those thynges are necessary for vs. Ergo Christ commytted thylke power to his vicare whiche he as a man mortall exercysed and not that power whiche after his glorification he resceyued And for to proue this by holy wrytte I take wytnes of Christe and holy writte as thou doste Lo Christe sayde to Pilate My kyngedome is nat of this worlde Io. 18. Also he saith he came not to be serued but to serue other men Matt. 20. This wytnes is so manifeste that it maye confounde a man resiste he neuer so moche and all to frusshe his necke be it neuer so styffe And it is wrytten Luc. 12. howe one said to Christ Mayster say to my brother that he departe herytage with me To whom Christ answered and sayde Manne who hathe ordeyned me iudge or departer betwene you Lo thou hereste openly that Christ was nat iudge nor dealer ouer temporaltees Ergo in that state of dispensation taken on hym he neyther had nor desyred temporalle kyngedome But whan the people that he hadde fedde wolde haue made hym kynge he fledde from them Ion. 6. Also in Peters commission he yafe hym not the keyes of the kyngdome of erth but the keyes of the kyngedome of heuen Also it is euydent and playne that the bysshoppes of the Hebrewes were subiectes