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your_o child_n though_o the_o face_n be_v not_o wet_a all_o over_o again_o how_o poor_o do_v you_o confound_v dip_v and_o wet_v all_o over_o when_o the_o tip_n of_o your_o singer_n may_v be_v dip_v in_o water_n and_o yet_o the_o finger_n not_o wet_a all_o over_o i_o must_v now_o needs_o tell_v you_o if_o your_o zeal_n for_o dip_v be_v no_o better_a than_o your_o argument_n it_o will_v shrink_v in_o the_o wet_n sect_n 19_o h._n h._n p._n 97._o as_o for_o m._n baxter_n objection_n that_o christ_n say_v you_o need_v not_o but_o wash_v your_o foot_n and_o you_o be_v clean_o every_o whit_n i_o answer_v christ_n do_v not_o there_o speak_v of_o baptism_n but_o of_o humility_n which_o be_v show_v by_o wash_v of_o the_o foot_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o whole_a body_n but_o when_o he_o speak_v of_o baptism_n he_o do_v not_o say_v he_o that_o be_v baptise_a on_o his_o foot_n etc._n etc._n but_o be_v baptise_a shall_v be_v save_v mark_v 16.16.2_o the_o eunuch_n and_o philip_n go_v both_o down_o 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