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quaest_n 67._o in_o exod._n write_v that_o moses_n not_o think_v himself_o sufficient_a to_o appease_v god_n by_o himself_o add_v the_o intercession_n of_o the_o holy_a patriarch_n and_o the_o like_a do_v s._n aug._n quaest_n 149._o in_o exod._n 2._o chron._n 6.16_o now_o therefore_o o_o lord_n my_o god_n of_o israel_n keep_v with_o thy_o servant_n david_n that_o which_o thou_o have_v promise_v he_o and_o psal_n 132._o we_o 131._o lord_n remember_v david_n and_o all_o his_o affliction_n loe_o again_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o god_n before_o the_o come_n of_o jesus-christ_n and_o how_o servant_n they_o be_v in_o this_o devotion_n still_o allege_v the_o memory_n and_o merit_n of_o their_o saint_n decease_v thereby_o to_o move_v god_n mercy_n towards_o they_o so_o pray_v solomon_n 2._o chron._n 1.9_o so_o pray_v isaiah_n 63.17_o so_o pray_v hester_n 13.14_o so_o pray_v david_n 1._o chron._n 29.18_o name_v abraham_n isaac_n and_o jacob_n for_o his_o intercessor_n 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