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A70729 Observations vpon the Earle of New-Castles Declaration 1643 (1643) Wing O116; ESTC R12525 7,830 16

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brings in a private law in a publick quarrell and for a Commission from the King of Heaven they can sooner shew that than his Lordship his from Heaven for bringing his Papists the enimies of truth to fight for it I have said you are Gods is sure Commission enough and for your saying no collective or representative body whatsoever is it not civill blasphemy thus to revile Courts of Justice and like a casheerd Iudge to raile against that Bench where hee can have no place himselfe Declaration It is an easie thing for an Orator to cast a mist before the eyes of the People and to make them a plausible discourse of the cause of God c. they had hard hearts if they could not afford themselves a good word Observation It seemes your Lordship hath made such use of it your selfe you accuse it in others and what ever good words they afford themselves I am sure hee that reads your book will see you are not far behinde to your selfe if you have not got the start but whatever good words they give themselves I think they have few enough from you but you would faine jest your readers into a beliefe of your accusation for your naming Religion and Scripture too as you do you do so mingle them in your State discourses as if you had got on your Chaplains gowne and yet would talke like a Lord. Declaration These very men have taught the contrary have protested the contrary ante mota certamina then themselves condemned this very doctrine which now they practice Observation What doe you tell us of what they then condemne and now practice are you angry at any change for the better and for your Latine ante mota certamina I shall draw up a squadron of Latine to give fire on his Lordships non est pudor transire admeliora Declaration Are they successors in Dectrine of those first Reformers in Germany no what these old Protestants allowed c. these new condemne this is beyond the power of an omnipotency to make both parts of a contradiction true no Protestants to bee Protestants Observation They are successors in Doctrine so far as their Doctrine is successor to Christs and his Apostles but no further and t is true we condemne what those Protestants allowed but it is because we have had a longer light of the Gospell with us shall wee not see clearer at our noon than they in the first dawning and to make a contradiction good and yet no omnipotency neither wee are Protestants in protesting with them against Rome and the corruptions of it no Protestants in what they protest with it for Gods omnipotency I could wish your Lordship more tender of his name and word than you are but I know not where to have you for certain you are now in Divinity then in war you are now in a surplesse anon in buffe Declaration Could these Ambassadours of peace kept themselves for that theam which was bequeathed them by their Prince of peace they might long enjoy their benifices Observation It is wel and your Lordship might adde also could the ministers have held their peace while your army of Papists had come in at this back dore and while all the Altars and ceremonies all the malignity and prophanesse all the oppression had gone on its course they had enjoyed their livings no the godly Ministers are not easily bribed to hold their peace at these evills as perhaps your Bishops and Doctors of York Durham nor can the good Divines so easily hold their peace as yours who are lesse used to the Pulpit Declaration If any Ministers have assumed a Plurality of Professions and added the sword to the word Observation For wearing a defensive weapon in such offensive times was never condemned no not by Apostolicall practise if a sword had been so inconsistent with a Divine I suppose S. Peter had not made use of one in our Saviours company and if they please to think of Zwinglius Charmier and other such worthy Divines who were as famous for their Armes as arguments Declarition Lord how these men are touched to the quick when any but themselves doe offer to plunder Observation It is well that now at last your Lordship will sport your selfe into that guilt which of late you would not own wee see you are content now to wrap your self up in the name of a Plunderer so long as it is in so good Company Declaration They have spared no age c. and all this done by a company of men crept out now at last out of the bottome of Pandora●s Box. Observation His Lordship spends a whole leafe in idle and groundlesse aspersions which I will not confute but let the whole Countrey doe it only this I will adde had he not stuffed his paper wi●h these his Declaration had been shorter wasted he sayes our company have crept out of the Box what if I say his Lordship then and whole Army hath crept into it for I think they were boxed of late and that soundly too I am sorry that his wit gives mee the hint to be thus ridiculous but since he will laugh we shall laugh for company Declaration There may bee treason against the King none against them there may bee forfeitures of estates to the King none to them Observation But if they be armed as they are by a Soveraign or Parliamentary power what is done against them in that capacity is as ●uch treason as he that strikes a Iudge on the Bench or Magistrate in his place strikes not so much the man as the Authority and so are the forfeiture two even to them thus enabled and ministerialized by Ordinance and now all he sayes after is on mistaken principles Declaration I made a publike Declaration against Plundering in Print Observation And it was wisely done however to declare against Plundering now had you so good Rhetorick as to perswade the people you plundered not though you took all that were a quaint device but well as your Lordship sayes it is hard if you cannot afford your selfe a good word it had not me thinks been amisse had you carried your Declaration in one hand and your sword in the other and so have plundred by the book Declaration But what hath been done in that kind hath beene done by the Gentry when I have rather acted the part of the Minister to execute what they resolved Observation I have rather acted the part of a Minister c. your Lordship does well to speak truth it is pitty but the blame should ly where it ought indeed wee wonder you casheered not those Gentry ere this as you have done Savill and Gower c. certainly they have not delt fairely with you to bring you in and promise you pay and now not to be able to performe either their abilities are very little or their honesties Declaration It were a more conscionable and discrect part of them to repaire all as one unanimous body to their Soveraignes Standard c. Observation They are all under the right Standard already under the Royall Parliamentary power and they fight against you and the rest for painting a counterfeit and displaying it to seduce both them and theirs your Lion or Crown or such paintings is no Regall Authoritie colours make not a cause no more than a Crucifix makes Christianitie Declaration His Lordship talkes of driving mee and my Army out of the Countrey if it bee not a flourish but a true spark of undissembled Gallantry hee may doe well to expresse for time and place Observation Your Lordship makes a challenge you know neither hath the Fairefaxes or Hothams of any of our worthies ever declined you in the Field nor mee thinks should you challenge again having lost it so lately if you challenge to save blood and misery you had better single your selfe for a Duell with one of them but perhaps you fight better in company I like your challenge in paper well it is safe fighting and wri●ing at distance yet such speedy decision would doe well I would our Southern Army were in that point of your Lordships mind wee should not languish so long for the sparks of Gallantry you call for in our Champions I believe you found rather their flames then their sparks your Army though● it too hot staying Postscript Our Gentry is taxed by this Declaration for breach of Promise but the breach was 〈…〉 their parts and conditionall convenants as such were doe ever stand and fall with their conditions FINIS