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A61683 A letter sent to a friend containing some reflections upon a late book intituled, The Roman church vindicated, and M.S. convicted of a false witnesse against her Wherein is declar'd, that the Pope may excommunicate and depose Kings according to the judgement of their greatest doctors, decrees and practices of several Popes, and Canons of their most approved councils; and the author convicted of most notorious falsities, &c. By J.S. B.D. Stopford, Joshua, 1636-1675. 1675 (1675) Wing S5743; ESTC R222081 29,048 37

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eminent S. Austin de Civit. dei lib. 20 c. 8. in Psal 70. Calvin Instit lib. 4. c. 2. n. 12. All most false That there was no visible Church but the Popish Church for 1260 p. 95. years before Luther Napper upon the Revel p. 145. Perkins upon the Creed p. 400. and in his Reformed Catholick p. 307. All false That the Hebrew Doctors have corrupted the Scriptures Calvin Instit p. 97. lib. 1. c. 13. n. 9 False That S. Hierom thought it not safe to recur to those Hebrew Copies where the Septuagint differs from them In Epist ad Gal. cap. 3. False That the first Reformers and their Successors have entirely condemned p. 117. and rejected the Fathers both in general and particular as blind ignorant and full of Errours Luther de servo Arbitrio p. 434. Calvin in Heb. c. 7. v. 9. Instit lib. 4. c. 12. n. 19. 30. Humsred de vita Jeweli p. 212. Fulkes Retentive against Bristow p. 55. Wotton defence of Perk us p. 491. Whitaker contra duraeum lib. 6. p. 423. All false That the ten Commandements belong not to Christians Luther Serm. p. 124. de Mose and approved by Whitaker contra duraeum lib. 8. Sect. 91. Luther in Gal. cap. p. 227. That it is Heresy to require good works to Salvation Luth. Serm. de piscat Petri p. 154 All false in this Gentleman's sence for they constantly affirm that the ten Commandements belong to Christians as a Rule of life and that good works are necessary to salvation That the Church of England doth acknowledge in her Marginal Notes p. 164. upon Joh. 14. 12. That Believers in every Age have power to work Miracles False That infinite Miracles have been wrought by the Reliques of Saints p. 168. Whitaker contra duraeum lib. 10 p. 866. False That the real Presence is confirm'd by many Miracles acknowledged p. 169. by Dr. Humfrey in his Jesuitisme p. 2. rat 5. p. 626. and Centurists Cent. 4. col 431. And that famous one in the Town of Knoblock an 1510. is related as a certain truth by Osiander ●ent 16. cap. 14. p. 28. All most false That several Miracles are confessed by the C●n●urists to prove the p. 170. Mass to be a true Sacrifice Purgatory and Prayer for the dead Cent. 6. Col. 819. Cent. 7. Col. 577. All most false That the Miracles wrought by S. Oswald and others are approved by p. 179. Holinshead in his Chron. Vol. 1. p. 115. 170. False That the formentioned Miracles and many others of the seventh Age p. 180. are acknowledged by the Centurists Cent. 7. cap. 10. Col. 533. and Osiander Epitom Cent. 7. False That many undoubted Miracles were wrought in the 8. 9. 10. and 11. Ages in confirmation of the use of Images the Veneration of holy Reliques Invocation of Saints and the Sacrifice of the Mass offered for the Living and the Dead Osiander Epit. Cent. 8. p. 47. and 92. Item p. 24. 25. The Centurists Cent. 8. cap. 13. Cent. 9. cap. 13. Osiander Epit. Cent. 9. p. 63. All most false That the Miracles of S. Dunstan are recorded and approved by Holinshead Vol. 1. 165. and others in the same Age by the Conturists Cent. 10. cap. 13. and Osiander Epit. Cent. 10. p. 125. All most false That the Miracles wrought in the Eleventh Age by S. Ansolm O●●●o p. 181. and others in confirmation of the Sacrifice of the Mass and Invocation of Saints are confessed by Osiander Epit. Cent. 9. 10. 11. p. 213. False That infinite Miracles were done by Malachias in the twelveth Age whereof some were seen and acknowledged by many hundreds of People Holinshead Chron. p. 55. False That many Miracles were done by S. Bernard and acknowledged by the p. 182. Centurists Cent. 12. col 1634. 1635. 1649. and Osiander Cent. 12. lib. 4. cap. 6. p. 310. And that these moved Whitaker to give him the just Character of a true Saint De Eccles p. 369. All most false He further tells us That signal Miracles were wrought in the thirteenth Age by S. Dominick and S. Francis even while they were preaching against the Albigensian Errours whom Satan had seduced to deny those known Doctrines of Gods Church viz. Purgatory Prayers for the dead Confession Extream Unction the Popes Authority Images Traditions And in the next page assures us That the Miracles wrought in the 15 th Age are admired and reverenced by Protestants themselves But for both these we must take his bare word and how can he in reason expect this from us who stands convicted of above a hundred notorious Lyes Perhaps here you 'l say That the Printer has mistaken many of the Quotations and therefore we cannot in justice charge them on the Author Or that he hath taken them upon the Credit of other Writers But to the first I answer 1. That the Printer cannot be charged with any mistake in reference to many nay most of the Quotations I have mention'd 2. That about two Months ago I writ to this Gentleman and have great assurance that my Letter came to his Hands and desired him that if there were any Errata's in the Citations he would be pleased to send me a corrected Book and it should be faithfully return'd But to this day I never heard from him And to the second Plea viz. That he hath taken these Citations upon the Credit of other Writers which I believe to be a great truth I answer That to take things upon trust in Controversial Points argues much weakness and imprudence but to do this and not give his Reader the least intimation of it argues great unfaithfulness and dishonesty that will not admit of any Excuse And to evidence his great Proficiency in this Catholick Vertue I could give you many other Instances but for Brevity's sake I 'le mention but one which you may find p. 190. and will appear most notorious upon your comparing of it with p. 127. of my Book Here he confidently tells the World that all that the Bishops of Bononia as they are alledged in the last page but one of my Book do affirm i● That private mens constructions of the Bible have raised great storms and differences and that the Doctrines preached by Christians or the Romish Church se●m contrary to those contained in the Bible But the advice of those Bishops to the Pope was related by me in these words Let that little suffice which is wont to be read in the Mass and more then that let no Mortal be allow'd to read For so long as men were content with that little your affairs succeeded according to desire but quite otherways since so much of the Scriptures was publickly read In short this is the Book which above all others hath raised these storms and ten pests And truly if any one read that Book the Scriptures and observe the Customes and Practices of our Church will see that there is no agreement betwixt them and that the Doctrine which we preach is altogether different from and sometimes cont●●ry to that contained in the Bible Now can any Man pick out of these Words or will any one but a frontless Romanist affirm that the sense of them is That private mens constructions of the Bible have raised great storms and differences c. I grant we are to put the most favourable construction upon another's Words and Actions Yet I take that Caution in their Canon-Law to be extravagant viz. That if a P●p●st see one of their Priests k●ssing a Woman he 's bid to believe that the Priest is only giving her good Counsel For though Charity be can did and ingenuous yet 't is not blind and block●sh And that their Charity must have these debasing Qualifications who endeavour to excuse this Gentleman is obvious to any I hav found him guilty of about an hundred and fifty false Quotations and observed near halfe that number that are wholly impertinent besides many that I have not time to examine Sir if these Roman Factors dare publish such notorious Falsities to the World we may easily guess what pretty Stories they tell their deluded Proselytes in secret Let us commiserate their Condition who have committed their Souls to the Conduct of these Spiritual Mountchancks and admire Gods discriminating Mercy who hath delivered us from their Fatal delusions Sir I am Your most Obliged and faithful Servant I. S.
were made and used by Garnet Gentem auferte perfidam credentium de finibus Vt Christo laudes debitas persolvamus alacriter And others pray'd thus Prosper Lord their pains that labour in thy Cause day and night let Heresyvanish away like smoak let their Memory perish with a Crack like the ruin and fall of a broken House Speed in King James p. 892. Thus though the Design it selfe was understood by Few for it was neither safe nor necessary to impart it to many yet the Papists generally knew that there was a Design in hand And though there were but a Score in the Treason yet there appear'd Fourscore in the Rebellion and it cannot be imagin'd that so small a Number could expect without any other Assistance to have made any great advantage of surprising the Lady Elizabeth And that great numbers of Roman Catholicks beyond Seas were acquainted with this horrid Treason hath been abundantly prov'd by Many nay that it was carried on with the Privity and Approbation of the Pope is evident both from Delrio disq Mag. lib. 6. cap. 1. Sect. 2. and from what our Bishop Andrews hath asserted from the voluntary Confession of a Jesuit viz. That his Holiness had order'd three Bulls to be in readiness on the other side the Water which were to be sent over and published in several parts of this Nation so soon as the Blow was given Tort. Torti May we not then most justly charge their Church with this matchless Treason since such practices are agreeable to her Doctrines and never any punishment inflicted by her on these Traytors Nay so far have they been from censuring these persons that two Jesuits principal Conspirators were so kindly receiv'd at Rome that one was made the Popes Paenitentiary and the othera Confessor in S. Peters at Rome And Widdrington assures us that Garnets Name was inserted into the English Martyrology that his Bones were kept for Reliques and his Image set over Altars as of a holy Martyr Append. p. 150. Such Honour have Traytors in the Roman Church and yet this Gentleman hath the Impudence to affirm That She abhors and punishes such Traytors as severely as any Protestant can wish p. 67. When some in the late Times had proceeded to such a height of wickedness as to take away the life of our Gracious Soveraign which our Adversary is pleas'd to object against us though 't is more then probable that they were the Contrivers and Promoters of it from what I urged out of Dr. Du Moulin which was never answered by any and others have attested how did the Church and Nation groan and were impatient till they could vindicate the Honour of our Religion and Countrie not only by an execution of Justice on the immediate Actors but by declaring in Parliament against the Principles that led them to it Let this Gentleman shew us that the like hath been done by the Court or Church of Rome against the Principles or Actors of this Gun-powder-Treason and with my consent it shall never more be objected against them And thus Sir I have consider'd all that 's material in his first Chap. except his bitter Invectives against Protestants which I reserve for another place I will wholly wave his second Chap. in which there 's not one true and pertinent word excepting Bellarmin's Assertion That Jerusalem and not Rome shall be the Seat of Antichrist for which several Fathers are cited by him But most of them are such as he himselfe de Scriptor Eccles confesseth to be Spurious Sir if you please to compare this Chap. with the Second Chap. in my Book you I see the Honesty of the Man and find that he hath not so much as mention'd so farre is he from answering what is most material in it What is there quoted out of the Fathers and their own Authors I avouch to be true and can give an Ocular demonstration of it when he or any other shall call upon me Let us proceed to his third Chap. where p. 101 he confidently affims That we cannot know which are the true Copy's of Gods Word without the testimony of their Church and consequently cannot charge them with any Corruptions of Holy Scriptures But the Learn'd Dr. Stillingfleet hath sufficiently prov'd That without this Testimony we may be assur'd there are no material Corruptions either in the Original Hebrew of the Old or Greek of the New Testament viz. By the diligent comparing the present Copy's with the most * Ancient M S S. by the observation of what Citations of Scripture are produced by those of The same Course we● Sixtus 5. and Clement 8. pretended to take in their Editions of the Vulgar Latin Praef. ad Bibl. Sixt. Clement the Fathers who liv'd when some of those Autographa were extant as it is apparent some were in Tertullians time and some tell us that the Authentick Apocalypse was preserved in the Church of Ephesus in Honorius his time by the diligence of the Primitive Writers in taking notice of the least attempt for falsification or corruption of the Text For when Marcion began to clip falsify the Text Irenaeus presently takes notice of it and gives him a sufficient rebuke for it and so doth Tertullian and Epiphanius So that whatever endeavours were made they were presently discovered as that of the Arrians by S. Ambrose that of Tatianus his Monotessaron by Theodoret. Besides it is observable that among those multitudes of Various Lections in the New Testament of which R. Stephen made a Collection out of sixteen M S S. of 2384. which probably were occasioned by the general dispersion of Copies and the multitudes of transcriptions by such as were either ignorant or careless yet there are none which are material as Bellarmin hath confessed de Verb. dei lib. 2. cap. 2. 7. so as to entrench upon the integrity and authority of the Copies as a rule of Faith and Manners they are but Racings of the Skin no wounds of any vital Part. c. Ration Account p. 215 And Bellar. dares not say more of the Vulgar Latin de V. D. lib. 2. c. 11. But the Hebrew Doctors saith this Gentleman p. 97. 98. have corrupted the Old Testament and the Greeks the New But the first is absolutely deny'd by their great Bellarmin to pass by others and he urges five Arguments for it the weakest of which our Adversary is not able to answer de Verb. dei lib. 2. cap. 2. And to the Tikkun Sopherim produced by Porchetus he answers That the truth of it may be justly questioned since there 's no mention of it but in the Thalmud which is a most fabulous Book And those Fathers which were more Ancient than the Thalmud make no mention of it ibid. And to that Place Cited out of Justin he answers That Justin doth not say that the Hebrew Text was corrupted by the Jews but that of the 70 Interpreters ibid. And concerning the Corruption of the New Testament Bellarmin
is offer'd by him to ground our belief upon We have charged their Church with the Alteration of several places in the Ancient Fathers let this Gentleman prove those places to have been corrupted either by Hereticks or Transcribers and we 'l beg her pardon and call them from henceforth Charitable Corrections At present we cannot but think it strange that the Fathers should be so often printed by the Roman Church with so much professed care and fai●hfulness expressed in their Prefaces and for so long pass for Authentick without one Syllable of any Corruption and yet in this last Century when Pro●estants began to read them and urged from them so many express Testimonies against their Novel Doctrines they should be charged with so many Corruptions by Hereticks and Transcribers Here we must either condemn her former negligence or suspect her present honesty and whether of the two is obvious to any man But we cannot saith he suspect the Ancient Fathers to be corrupted by their Church to multiply Witnesses for Popery for those very Fahers whose Sayings or Corruptions She corrects afford plentiful Proofs of the Roman Church's Faith from those sound parts which are not call'd in Question either by the Catholick or the Protestant Church witness Perron Bellar. c. p. 116. If all the Fathers be so express for Popery why then have their most eminent Doctors urged so many spurious Treatises according to their own Confessions and falsely alledged others Let any Person look into Coccius Bellarmin Canisius c. who trade most with the Fathers and examine how many of those places are convicted of Forgery by Baronius Bellar Erasmus Sixtus Senensis Possevin c. and he must either deny what this Gentleman hath so confidently affirmed or grant that these great Champions and profound Scholars had been little conversant in the Fathers For take those spurious Treatises our and their large Folio's would dwindle into little Quarto's 'T is time to leave this and pass to his next Chap. where he lays down these three Propositions which contain and he might have added confirm the contracted Venome and Quintessence of all my objected Cases p. 137 1. That the Church of Rome hath universally degenerated from her wholesome and Primitive use and faithful dispensation of that most important Sacrament of Penance seeing that contrary to the express sense of Antiquity she daily and every where allows her Priests to admits evidently impenitent wilfully and uncorrected and daily relapsing sinners and all sorts without exception to the Sacred benefit of Absolution and Communion Not one Confessarius in ten Thousand daring once in twenty years to make use of the retaining part of his power for fear of incurring the shameful Censure of singularity 2. That the Primitive Practice of large and severe Injunctions is unwarrantably perverted into that fatal indulging of a five Paters or a Rosaries Pennance A Custom wofully experienced to beget in sinners a damnable presumption that Gods mercy is at the beck of the Courteous Confessor 3. That the universally established Doctrine and use of Indulgences do expresly thwart the Primitive sense and Practice of that Juridical Part lull Gods People into a presumptuous security and evacuate the Apostles Counsel to work out our salvation with fear and trembling Now in vindication of his Holy Mother three things are urged by him 1. That Pope Alexander 7. in the General Congregation at Rome an 1659. declared That the Doctrines held forth by those Casuists I mention'd are false erroneous scandalous dangerous p. 129. I confess this is as plausably urged as any thing I have met with in his whole Book yet there 's little in it when all things are well considered There had been for some years sharp Contests between the Jansenists and Jesuits in France and how Pope Alexander 7. stood affected towards the latter is clear from his severe Censures of several Books that were written against them In the Year 1657. he condemned the Provincial Letters Congreg 66. Sommaires des Declarations des Curez de Paris Congreg 69. Jesuitarum Atheismus detectus Congreg 84. Alphonsi de Vargas Toletani Relatio ad Principes Christianos de Stratagem Sophismat Politicis Societatis Jesu Congreg 85. c. But this would not do the work for the devout sort of Catholicks to use their own Words were scandalized at those Doctrines of the Jesuits and Hereticks made their advantages of them Therefore the Pope an 1665. not 1659. as our Adversary affirms censured certain Propositions delivered by those Casuists which were most insisted on by their Adversaries and offensive to some devout Catholicks We see now what 't was that put the Pope upon this Censure viz. the present State of Affairs in France and not any dis-like of the Doctrines for had they been really displeasing to his Holiness 1. He would have condemned the Authors of them and prohibited their Books which was not done 2. He would not have been so severe upon those Doctors that writ against them 2. He urgeth the severe Penances imposed by the Primitive Church upon notorious Offenders of which he gives us p. 146 an Instructive Index to use his own expression extracted out of Gratian c. And then assures his Reader that these are enough to confront the Minister's pretended List and acquaint us with the careful and strict Proceedings of those best Ages of the Catholick Church p150 But what is this to the present Church of Rome which as he told us before hath universally degenerated from her wholesom and primitive use and faithful dispensation of that most important Sacrament of Pennance The Roman Church whilst a Virgin was as severe as now she is become remiss and what the Whore obtains for twelve pence the honest Virgin had scarce granted for a Penance of twelve years It was not then as now at Rome where Dispensations and Pardons are presently got at a small rate according to their Taxa Cancellariae Apostolicae This Gentleman seems to question whether such a Book was ever printed and allowed by their Church I thought this was sufficiently clear'd from the pregnant Testimonies of their own Writers which he neither hath nor can object against And for his further satisfaction I will produce the Book when he or any other shall call upon me But suppose saith he p. 151. the World had seen or the Pope allow'd a Book of that Model yet I am so just as to clear the Church of that imputation and to acknowledge that not only some Sorbonists but even the Inquisitors of Rome have stigmatiz●d it Certainly this Gentleman deserves to be stigmatiz'd for an impudent Lyar. 1. I affirm saith he that some Sorbonists have condemned this Book But where doth he find any mentiond by me except Espencaeus whose pious Censure the Roman Church is so far from approving that the Spanish Inquisitors have commanded it to be blotted out in their Expurgatory Index p. 60. 2. I acknowledge saith he that the Inquisitors