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question_n and_o controversy_n wherefore_o if_o the_o protestant_n and_o puritan_n will_v have_v a_o end_n of_o this_o of_o their_o bishop_n and_o presbytery_n they_o must_v of_o necessity_n stand_v to_o the_o catholic_a church_n judgement_n in_o which_o they_o shall_v find_v bishop_n establish_v and_o yet_o sometime_o by_o reason_n of_o persecution_n priest_n only_o without_o bishop_n as_o now_o we_o see_v in_o our_o country_n where_o conformable_a to_o that_o which_o in_o their_o judgement_n be_v practise_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o many_o place_n at_o least_o for_o a_o time_n we_o have_v hitherto_o only_a priest_n subordinate_a to_o a_o archpriest_n but_o yet_o we_o be_v far_o from_o mislike_v bishop_n but_o do_v both_o wish_n and_o expect_v they_o when_o our_o lawful_a superior_a who_o succeed_v the_o chief_a of_o the_o apostle_n shall_v see_v it_o convenient_a m._n c._n a_o table_n of_o the_o chapter_n of_o this_o first_o part_n of_o antichrist_n the_o disputation_n of_o antichrist_n be_v propound_v and_o the_o first_o argument_n from_o the_o name_n itself_o discuss_v chap._n i._n that_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v a_o certain_a determinate_a man_n chap._n ii_o that_o antichrist_n be_v not_o yet_o come_v chap._n iii_o the_o first_o demonstration_n that_o antichrist_n be_v not_o yet_o come_v chap._n four_o the_o second_o demonstration_n chap._n v._n the_o three_o demonstration_n chap._n vi_o the_o four_o demonstration_n chap._n vii_o the_o five_o demonstration_n chap._n viii_o the_o sixth_o demonstration_n chap._n ix_o of_o antichristes_n name_n chap._n x._o of_o antichristes_n character_n chap._n xi_o of_o antichristes_n generation_n chap._n xii_o of_o antichristes_n seat_n chap._n xiii_o of_o antichristes_n doctrine_n chap._n xiiii_o of_o antichristes_n miracle_n chap._n xv._o of_o antichristes_n kingdom_n &_o war_n chap._n xvi_o of_o gog_n and_o magog_n chap._n xvii_o the_o dotage_n of_o heretic_n be_v confute_v with_o which_o they_o do_v not_o so_o much_o prove_v as_o impudent_o affirm_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n chap._n xviii_o the_o trifle_n of_o the_o smalcaldicall_a synod_n of_o the_o lutheran_n be_v confute_v chap._n xix_o caluins_n lie_n be_v refute_v chap._n xx._n the_o lie_v of_o illyricus_n be_v refute_v chap._n xxi_o the_o foolery_n of_o tylemanus_n be_v refute_v chap._n xxii_o the_o lie_v of_o chytraeus_n be_v refute_v chap._n xxiii_o the_o argument_n of_o caluin_n and_o illyricus_n be_v confute_v who_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v no_o long_o a_o bishop_n where_o also_o the_o fable_n of_o pope_n joane_n the_o woman_n be_v confute_v chap._n xxiiii_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n three_o book_n of_o the_o pope_n the_o first_o chapter_n wherein_o the_o disputation_n of_o antichrist_n be_v propound_v we_o have_v demonstrate_v hitherto_o say_v bellarmine_n that_o the_o pope_n succeed_v s._n peter_n in_o the_o chief_a princedom_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n it_o remain_v that_o we_o see_v whether_o at_o any_o time_n the_o pope_n have_v fall_v from_o this_o degree_n for_o that_o our_o adversary_n contend_v that_o he_o be_v not_o at_o this_o time_n a_o true_a bishop_n of_o rome_n whatsoever_o he_o be_v before_o and_o nilus_n in_o the_o end_n of_o his_o book_n against_o the_o primacy_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n speak_v thus_o but_o let_v that_o be_v the_o sum_n and_o head_n of_o my_o speech_n that_o while_o the_o pope_n keep_v in_o the_o church_n a_o convenient_a heavenly_a and_o of_o ancient_a time_n appoint_v order_n while_o he_o hold_v and_o defend_v the_o heavenly_a truth_n &_o while_o he_o cleave_v to_o christ_n the_o chief_a and_o true_a lord_n and_o head_n of_o the_o church_n i_o will_v easy_o suffer_v he_o to_o be_v both_o the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n &_o the_o chief_a priest_n &_o the_o successor_n of_o peter_n or_o else_o if_o he_o will_v of_o all_o the_o apostle_n that_o all_o obey_v he_o and_o that_o whatsoever_o belong_v to_o his_o honour_n be_v in_o nothing_o diminish_v but_o if_o he_o be_v depart_v from_o the_o truth_n &_o will_v not_o return_v to_o it_o he_o ought_v deserve_o to_o be_v account_v of_o as_o one_o that_o be_v condemn_v and_o reject_v but_o he_o shall_v have_v show_v into_o what_o error_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v fall_v and_o when_o and_o by_o who_o they_o be_v condemn_v for_o we_o know_v that_o in_o the_o general_n lateran_n council_n under_o innocentius_n the_o three_o and_o of_o lion_n under_o gregory_n the_o ten_o and_o of_o florence_n under_o eugenius_n the_o four_o the_o greek_n be_v convict_v of_o error_n return_v to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o latin_n and_o afterward_o always_o return_v to_o their_o vomit_n again_o and_o be_v therefore_o most_o grievous_o punish_v by_o god_n but_o we_o never_o read_v that_o the_o latin_n come_v to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o greek_n neither_o can_v there_o any_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n be_v produce_v against_o the_o latin_n as_o we_o bring_v many_o against_o the_o 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pope_n be_v the_o prince_n of_o bishop_n since_o that_o he_o be_v not_o a_o bishop_n and_o after_o let_v rome_n in_o time_n past_a have_v be_v the_o mother_n of_o all_o church_n but_o since_o she_o begin_v to_o become_v the_o seat_n of_o antichrist_n she_o leave_v to_o be_v that_o which_o she_o be_v and_o after_o §_o 25._o we_o seem_v to_o some_o backbyter_n and_o slanderer_n when_o we_o call_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n antichrist_n but_o they_o which_o think_v so_o understand_v not_o that_o they_o accuse_v paul_n of_o immodesty_n after_o who_o we_o speak_v yea_o out_o of_o who_o mouth_n we_o speak_v so_o and_o lest_o any_o object_n that_o we_o wrongful_o wrest_v paul_n word_n against_o the_o pope_n which_o perteine_a to_o another_o purpose_n i_o will_v brief_o show_v that_o they_o can_v be_v understand_v otherwise_o then_o of_o the_o popedom_n so_o he_o the_o like_a teach_v all_o the_o heretic_n of_o this_o time_n &_o chief_o luther_n in_o supput_fw-la temporum_fw-la &_o in_o assert_v art_n 28._o &_o 36._o and_o often_o in_o other_o place_n likewise_o the_o magdeburgenses_n centur._n 1._o lib._n 2._o cap._n 4._o colum_fw-la 434._o &_o sequent_a and_o in_o all_o the_o follow_a century_n cap._n 4._o 7._o 10._o illyricus_n in_o lib._n de_fw-fr primate_n david_n chrytraus_n in_o cap._n 9_o &_o 13._o apoc._n likewise_o wolsgangus_n musculus_fw-la in_o loc_fw-la commun_n tit_n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la theodor._n beza_n in_o com._n 2._o thessaly_n 2._o theodor._n bibliander_n in_o chron._n tabul_a 10._o 11._o 12._o &_o 14._o henricus_fw-la pantaleon_n in_o chron._n henricus_fw-la bullinger_n praesat_fw-la in_o svas_fw-la homil_n ad_fw-la apocal._n and_o before_o all_o these_o john_n wicklisse_n art_n 30._o among_o those_o which_o be_v condemn_v in_o council_n constantiensi_fw-la sess_v 8._o pronounce_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v antichrist_n wherefore_o that_o this_o question_n may_v
it_o have_v be_v ever_o since_o and_o so_o he_o shall_v have_v translate_v be_v in_o take_v out_o of_o the_o way_n and_o then_o we_o shall_v easy_o answer_v to_o the_o argument_n 4._o see_v cap._n 5._o nu_fw-la 4._o that_o a_o thing_n in_o do_v be_v not_o do_v and_o consequent_o that_o antichrist_n be_v but_o come_v and_o not_o come_v for_o the_o remove_n of_o the_o imperial_a seat_n from_o rome_n the_o take_n of_o rome_n by_o the_o goth_n the_o decay_n of_o the_o empire_n be_v not_o sufficient_a for_o m._n downam_n to_o make_v it_o good_a that_o the_o empire_n be_v take_v away_o but_o only_o that_o it_o be_v in_o take_v away_o that_o be_v in_o decay_n not_o subvert_v or_o perish_v and_o beside_o if_o m._n downam_n bethink_v himself_o well_o it_o will_v be_v a_o little_a with_o the_o soon_a for_o he_o and_o his_o friend_n who_o bellarmine_n call_v heretic_n to_o affirm_v that_o antichrist_n be_v come_v in_o s._n hieromes_n tyme._n as_o for_o the_o scripture_n which_o m._n downam_n 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evasion_n as_o i_o very_o persuade_v myself_o any_o answer_v downams_n manner_n to_o omit_v that_o which_o he_o can_v answer_v indifferent_a man_n will_v easy_o see_v then_o let_v he_o know_v that_o whatsoever_o m._n downam_n have_v omit_v be_v because_o he_o can_v by_o no_o mean_n make_v so_o much_o as_o any_o show_n of_o answer_v it_o as_o he_o have_v go_v about_o to_o do_v in_o this_o which_o we_o have_v examine_v and_o withal_o let_v he_o know_v also_o that_o this_o be_v m._n downams_n manner_n as_o he_o himself_o affirm_v and_o make_v account_n of_o the_o man_n according_o the_o four_o chapter_n in_o which_o be_v explicate_v the_o first_o demonstration_n that_o antichrist_n be_v not_o yet_o come_v wherefore_o the_o true_a opinion_n be_v say_v bellarmine_n that_o antichrist_n have_v neither_o begin_v to_o reign_v nor_o be_v yet_o come_v but_o be_v to_o come_v and_o to_o reign_v about_o the_o end_n of_o
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account_v he_o the_o most_o learned_a writer_n among_o the_o papist_n for_o how_o learned_a soever_o he_o be_v his_o private_a exposition_n plain_o both_o against_o montanus_n arias_n montanus_n the_o exposition_n of_o the_o father_n and_o the_o text_n itself_o as_o bellarmine_n have_v prove_v can_v have_v no_o great_a force_n and_o indeed_o this_o be_v the_o fault_n of_o that_o man_n that_o he_o trust_v more_o to_o his_o own_o judgement_n then_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o other_o which_o must_v needs_o please_v m._n downam_n well_o and_o we_o be_v content_a to_o let_v it_o pass_v so_o long_o as_o he_o be_v content_a to_o submit_v all_o his_o private_a opinion_n to_o the_o church_n censure_n which_o m._n downam_n will_v not_o do_v and_o therefore_o where_o the_o other_o be_v sometime_o rash_a he_o be_v still_o headlong_o that_o be_v a_o heretic_n and_o so_o we_o admit_v that_o arias_n in_o a_o rashness_n favour_v to_o much_o some_o of_o m._n downans_n heresy_n and_o this_o shall_v 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though_o he_o censure_v it_o more_o hardly_o then_o m._n downam_n do_v by_o which_o we_o imagine_v that_o it_o will_v be_v a_o easy_a matter_n to_o answer_v to_o these_o two_o objection_n which_o m._n downam_n make_v in_o this_o place_n and_o indeed_o they_o be_v plain_a foolery_n and_o therefore_o no_o marvel_n though_o caluin_n have_v wit_n enough_o to_o omit_v they_o for_o what_o can_v be_v more_o foolish_a then_o to_o deny_v the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n only_o principij_fw-la downans_fw-la petitio_fw-la principij_fw-la because_o it_o favour_v his_o adversary_n in_o some_o question_n in_o controversy_n do_v ever_o any_o heretic_n deny_v any_o part_n of_o scripture_n with_o less_o reason_n than_o this_o and_o for_o the_o present_a question_n i_o hope_v the_o reader_n will_v remain_v satisfy_v with_o that_o which_o shall_v be_v say_v in_o this_o chapter_n and_o for_o the_o other_o of_o samuel_n cap._n 46._o 13._o i_o remit_v he_o to_o that_o which_o bellarmine_n write_v lib._n 2._o de_fw-la purgatorio_fw-la cap._n 6._o only_o i_o will_v oppose_v to_o m._n downam_n the_o authority_n of_o s._n augustine_n who_o as_o bellarmine_n well_o note_v have_v be_v doubtful_a lib._n 2._o ad_fw-la simplicianun_n q._n 3._o whether_o samuel_n himself_o appear_v to_o saul_n or_o no_o affirm_v without_o doubt_n that_o it_o be_v samuel_n lib._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la cap._n 15._o cite_v the_o place_n of_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la which_o before_o he_o have_v omit_v m._n downams_n second_o answer_n be_v that_o in_o neither_o place_n it_o be_v say_v that_o either_o of_o they_o shall_v come_v to_o oppose_v himself_o against_o antichrist_n but_o what_o then_o at_o least_o wise_a it_o be_v say_v that_o they_o shall_v come_v to_o appease_v god_n wrath_n and_o to_o reconcile_v the_o hart_n of_o the_o father_n to_o the_o son_n and_o to_o restore_v the_o tribe_n of_o israel_n and_o of_o henoch_n to_o give_v penance_n to_o nation_n all_o which_o we_o learn_v out_o of_o the_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n &_o by_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o father_n that_o it_o shall_v be_v in_o the_o time_n of_o antichrist_n not_o long_o before_o our_o saviour_n second_o come_n and_o consequent_o that_o they_o shall_v oppose_v themselves_o to_o antichrist_n since_o he_o shall_v strive_v to_o draw_v both_o jew_n and_o gentill_n from_o christ_n and_o they_o will_v labour_v to_o convert_v they_o to_o christ_n and_o here_o i_o will_v have_v my_o reader_n note_v one_o of_o m._n downams_n ordinary_a shift_n to_o tell_v we_o what_o the_o argument_n shift_n downans_n ordinary_a shift_n do_v not_o prove_v omit_v direct_o to_o answer_v to_o that_o which_o it_o prove_v &_o for_o which_o it_o be_v bring_v three_o he_o answer_v several_o that_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la in_o the_o first_o place_n write_v according_a to_o the_o receive_v opinion_n of_o his_o time_n which_o in_o m._n downams_n opinion_n be_v 48._o eccles_n 48._o false_a but_o sure_o we_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o 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with_o many_o other_o concern_v the_o consummation_n of_o the_o world_n to_o which_o the_o come_n of_o antichrist_n do_v belong_v and_o this_o both_o the_o text_n itself_o and_o s._n hierome_n and_o all_o other_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n persuade_v we_o and_o therefore_o we_o must_v needs_o think_v so_o until_o m._n downam_n convince_v evident_o the_o contrary_a which_o i_o be_o afraid_a he_o will_v very_o hardly_o do_v but_o let_v we_o see_v what_o he_o can_v say_v for_o himself_o second_o therefore_o he_o faith_n that_o daniel_n prophecy_n concern_v either_o such_o terrestrial_a kingdom_n unto_o who_o tyranny_n the_o jew_n be_v subject_a before_o the_o come_n of_o the_o messiah_n or_o else_o the_o spiritual_a kingdom_n of_o christ_n before_o himself_o downam_n contradict_v himself_o which_o all_o the_o former_a kingdom_n be_v to_o have_v a_o end_n but_o this_o seem_v somewhat_o contrary_a to_o that_o he_o say_v before_o when_o he_o confess_v that_o daniel_n prophecy_n reach_v to_o 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etc._n etc._n but_o yet_o m._n downam_n bring_v for_o the_o contrary_a dan._n 2._o 4._o 35._o and_o 7._o 11._o and_o ver_fw-la 2._o dan._n 2._o 26._o 37._o the_o first_o of_o which_o place_n be_v a_o little_a misprint_v for_o that_o 4._o shall_v be_v 34._o in_o which_o and_o the_o follow_a verse_n it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o stone_n which_o be_v cut_v out_o of_o the_o mountain_n without_o hand_n that_o be_v our_o saviour_n bear_v of_o our_o bless_a lady_n by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n without_o the_o seed_n of_o man_n shall_v strike_v the_o statue_n upon_o the_o iron_n foot_n and_o break_v they_o and_o by_o that_o mean_v the_o whole_a shall_v be_v dissolve_v and_o come_v to_o nothing_o but_o i_o can_v see_v how_o this_o prove_v m._n downams_n intent_n but_o rather_o the_o quite_o contrary_a for_o if_o our_o saviour_n shall_v destroy_v these_o kingdom_n sure_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v end_v before_o his_o come_n and_o at_o least_o the_o foot_n and_o the_o ten_o toe_n must_v remain_v and_o be_v strike_v by_o this_o stone_n as_o indeed_o they_o shall_v at_o his_o second_o come_v when_o he_o shall_v overcome_v the_o ten_o king_n among_o who_o the_o roman_a empire_n shall_v be_v divide_v who_o shall_v fight_v against_o he_o as_o s._n john_n record_v apoc._n 17._o both_o before_o the_o come_n of_o antichrist_n and_o after_o also_o so_o many_o and_o so_o long_o as_o they_o shall_v continue_v nabuchodonosor_n when_o our_o saviour_n be_v to_o destroy_v the_o kingdom_n signify_v by_o the_o statue_n of_o nabuchodonosor_n neither_o may_v it_o seem_v hard_a that_o nabuchodonosor_n in_o his_o dream_n relate_v by_o daniel_n do_v see_v the_o stone_n first_o strike_v the_o statue_n &_o after_o become_v so_o great_a that_o it_o fill_v the_o whole_a world_n for_o this_o be_v to_o be_v atribute_v to_o the_o obscurity_n of_o prophecy_n and_o therefore_o daniel_n in_o his_o explication_n stand_v not_o upon_o that_o circumstance_n but_o rather_o insinuate_v the_o contrary_a explicate_v first_o the_o stability_n and_o perpetuity_n of_o christ_n kingdom_n in_o this_o world_n and_o then_o how_o he_o shall_v destroy_v all_o the_o kingdom_n of_o this_o world_n and_o final_o reign_v for_o ever_o in_o the_o next_o the_o second_o place_n cap._n 7._o 11._o be_v most_o plain_o against_o m._n downam_n for_o in_o the_o two_o precedent_a verse_n be_v describe_v 7._o daâ—_n 7._o the_o come_n of_o god_n to_o judgement_n before_o which_o no_o doubt_n all_o these_o kingdom_n and_o king_n together_o with_o antichrist_n himself_o shall_v have_v a_o end_n and_o the_o same_o be_v as_o plain_o repeat_v v._n 26._o in_o which_o be_v declare_v both_o the_o come_n of_o god_n to_o judgement_n and_o the_o final_a overthrow_n and_o destruction_n of_o the_o wicked_a and_o v._o 27._o the_o amplitude_n and_o perpetuity_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o saint_n which_o be_v chief_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o next_o world_n and_o only_o kingdom_n when_o christ_n begin_v spiritual_o to_o overthrow_v those_o kingdom_n spiritual_o in_o this_o after_o which_o manner_n christ_n begin_v to_o overthrow_v all_o the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o world_n from_o the_o beginning_n by_o root_a out_o idolatry_n and_o plant_v his_o church_n through_o the_o whole_a world_n those_o other_o place_n which_o m._n downam_n quote_v concern_v the_o come_n of_o christ_n into_o this_o world_n and_o the_o destruction_n of_o jerusalem_n make_v nothing_o against_o we_o though_o some_o of_o they_o be_v not_o very_o fit_o apply_v by_o he_o as_o the_o reader_n will_v easy_o discern_v of_o those_o which_o he_o bring_v out_o of_o the_o new_a testament_n but_o i_o will_v let_v they_o pass_v and_o only_a note_n that_o which_o make_v a_o little_a 10._o matth._n 2._o &_o 3_o mar._n 1._o &_o 10._o to_o our_o purpose_n that_o m._n downam_n misinterprete_v dan._n 7._o 13._o of_o the_o ascension_n of_o our_o saviour_n whereas_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o text_n that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o his_o come_n to_o judgement_n of_o which_o it_o be_v say_v v._n 10._o judicium_fw-la sedit_fw-la &_o libri_fw-la aperti_fw-la 7._o dan._n 7._o sunt_fw-la that_o god_n the_o father_n do_v fit_a in_o judgement_n and_o the_o book_n be_v open_v that_o be_v it_o be_v the_o time_n of_o judgement_n when_o daniel_n do_v see_v our_o saviour_n come_v to_o he_o after_o this_o m._n downam_n only_o recite_v his_o exposition_n of_o the_o 4._o beast_n cap._n 7._o and_o the_o leg_n and_o foot_n of_o the_o statue_n cap._n 2._o which_o he_o will_v needs_o have_v to_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o seleucidae_n and_o lagidae_n but_o 7._o dan._n 2._o &_o 7._o how_o foolish_o we_o shall_v see_v after_o when_o he_o come_v to_o his_o proof_n for_o now_o he_o only_o affirm_v it_o upon_o his_o bare_a word_n which_o with_o we_o have_v no_o credit_n at_o all_o and_o i_o think_v will_v not_o have_v much_o with_o any_o man_n else_o at_o least_o if_o he_o be_v any_o thing_n indifferent_a and_o will_v vouchsafe_v to_o read_v this_o discourse_n 6._o well_o m._n downam_n go_v forward_o with_o his_o exposition_n such_o as_o it_o be_v especial_o of_o the_o 11._o chapter_n of_o dan._n in_o which_o he_o say_v many_o thing_n call_v in_o question_n by_o none_o 11._o dan._n 11._o and_o other_o deny_v by_o all_o of_o the_o first_o sort_n i_o need_v say_v nothing_o and_o the_o other_o be_v so_o apparent_o false_a and_o foolish_a that_o it_o will_v be_v enough_o to_o touch_v they_o brief_o as_o first_o when_o he_o say_v 4._o the_o 4._o kingdom_n into_o which_o that_o of_o alexander_n be_v divide_v belong_v to_o the_o 3._o beast_n describe_v dan._n 7._o &_o not_o to_o the_o 4._o that_o in_o the_o 8._o and_o 11._o chap._n the_o 3._o latter_a and_o especial_o the_o last_o kingdom_n speak_v of_o cap._n 2._o and_o 7._o be_v prophesy_v of_o who_o see_v not_o the_o absurdity_n of_o this_o assertion_n for_o what_o can_v be_v more_o plain_a then_o that_o the_o four_o kingdom_n into_o which_o alexander_n kingdom_n be_v divide_v after_o his_o death_n belong_v to_o the_o same_o monarchy_n signify_v by_o the_o 3._o beast_n cap._n 7._o which_o for_o this_o cause_n be_v say_v to_o have_v 4._o head_n in_o that_o place_n and_o in_o the_o 8._o chap._n the_o same_o be_v signify_v by_o the_o 4._o horn_n and_o they_o all_o be_v greek_n as_o m._n downam_n confess_v nu_fw-la 10._o and_o be_v evident_a out_o of_o the_o same_o 8._o chapter_n and_o of_o the_o seleucide_n the_o same_o appear_v 1._o machab._n 11._o and_o beside_o all_o these_o 4._o kingdom_n be_v end_v before_o the_o come_n of_o our_o saviour_n who_o notwithstanding_o be_v say_v to_o overthrow_v the_o 4._o beast_n and_o consequent_o all_o the_o rest_n in_o he_o since_o that_o he_o have_v succeed_v in_o their_o place_n porphiry_n do_v see_v this_o difficulty_n
many_o province_n of_o the_o people_n of_o rome_n s._n hierome_n make_v mention_n of_o this_o opinion_n in_o quaest_n heb_n cap._n 10._o and_o say_v whether_o it_o be_v true_a or_o no_o the_o end_n of_o the_o war_n will_v show_v and_o now_o doubtless_o the_o issue_n of_o the_o war_n have_v teach_v we_o that_o it_o be_v not_o true_a for_o neither_o have_v there_o follow_v any_o renew_n of_o the_o church_n after_o the_o war_n of_o the_o goth_n neither_o have_v all_o war_n cease_v the_o 8._o be_v of_o s._n hierome_n himself_o in_o cap._n 38._o ezech._n who_o see_v the_o difficulty_n omit_v the_o literal_a sense_n do_v mystical_o expound_v it_o of_o the_o heretic_n for_o he_o will_v have_v gog_n which_o in_o hebrew_n signify_v the_o house_n top_n to_o signify_v the_o heresiarche_n who_o like_v to_o the_o top_n of_o a_o house_n be_v lift_v up_o and_o proud_a and_o magog_n which_o be_v interpret_v of_o the_o top_n of_o a_o house_n to_o signify_v they_o who_o believe_v these_o arch-heretike_n and_o be_v subject_a to_o they_o as_o the_o house_n to_o the_o roof_n or_o top_n this_o opinion_n take_v for_o the_o mystical_a sense_n be_v most_o true_a but_o not_o in_o the_o literal_a for_o ezech._n cap._n 38._o say_v that_o gog_n shall_v come_v in_o the_o last_o year_n and_o s._n john_n apoc._n 20._o say_v that_o the_o same_o gog_n shall_v come_v after_o a_o thousand_o year_n and_o by_o the_o name_n of_o a_o thousand_o year_n all_o catholic_n understand_v all_o the_o time_n which_o be_v from_o christ_n come_v to_o antichrist_n since_o therefore_o gog_n shall_v not_o come_v but_o about_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n and_o heresy_n begin_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o church_n while_o the_o apostle_n live_v it_o be_v manifest_a that_o proper_o and_o literal_o gog_n do_v not_o signify_v the_o heretic_n we_o must_v also_o know_v that_o s._n hierome_n when_o he_o say_v that_o gog_n be_v interpret_v a_o house_n roof_n and_o magog_n of_o a_o house_n roof_n mean_v not_o that_o gog_n and_o magog_n in_o hebrew_a be_v altogether_o the_o same_o that_o a_o house_n roof_n or_o of_o a_o house_n roof_n with_o we_o but_o he_o mean_v that_o it_o be_v in_o a_o manner_n the_o same_o for_o proper_o a_o house_n roof_n be_v not_o gog_n but_o gog_n and_o of_o a_o house_n roof_n be_v not_o magog_n but_o miggag_n the_o 9_o opinion_n be_v of_o s._n augustine_n lib._n 20._o de_fw-la civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la cap._n 11._o who_o by_o gog_n understand_v the_o devil_n who_o be_v like_o a_o great_a house_n roof_n that_o be_v a_o great_a house_n roof_n in_o which_o all_o the_o evil_a do_v dwell_v and_o by_o magog_n he_o understand_v the_o army_n of_o antichrist_n gather_v of_o the_o nation_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n which_o opinion_n doutble_v be_v most_o true_a and_o to_o be_v embrace_v in_o that_o it_o refer_v gog_n and_o magog_n to_o the_o time_n of_o antichrist_n aswell_o because_o all_o catholic_a author_n which_o write_v upon_o the_o apocalyps_n do_v follow_v it_o as_o arethas_n primasius_n beda_n haymâ—_n rupertus_n richardus_fw-la anselmus_n and_o other_o as_o also_o because_o that_o all_o which_o be_v say_v by_o ezechiel_n and_o s._n john_n of_o gog_n and_o magog_n do_v most_o right_o agree_v to_o antichrist_n for_o then_o true_o shall_v be_v the_o last_o and_o great_a persecution_n and_o after_o it_o shall_v jerusalem_n be_v renew_v that_o be_v the_o church_n glorify_v neither_o shall_v there_o any_o battle_n be_v hear_v of_o after_o but_o in_o that_o by_o gog_n it_o understand_v the_o devil_n it_o seem_v not_o true_a for_o s._n john_n say_v that_o the_o devil_n be_v let_v loose_a shall_v call_v gog_n and_o magog_n to_o war_n wherefore_o the_o devil_n be_v one_o thing_n and_o gog_n another_o wherefore_o our_o opinion_n which_o be_v the_o 10._o contain_v three_o thing_n first_o we_o affirm_v that_o the_o battle_n of_o gog_n and_o magog_n be_v the_o battle_n of_o antichrist_n against_o the_o church_n as_o s._n augustine_n right_o teach_v second_o we_o say_v that_o it_o be_v very_o probable_a that_o by_o gog_n antichrist_n himself_o be_v signify_v by_o magog_n his_o army_n for_o ezechiel_n always_o call_v gog_n a_o prince_n and_o magog_n a_o land_n or_o nation_n three_o we_o say_v that_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o gog_n be_v so_o call_v of_o magog_n and_o not_o contrariwise_o so_o that_o antichrist_n be_v call_v gog_n because_o he_o be_v prince_n of_o that_o nation_n which_o be_v call_v magog_n and_o that_o the_o army_n of_o antichrist_n be_v call_v magog_n of_o the_o scythian_a nation_n not_o that_o it_o consist_v of_o those_o scythian_n which_o the_o jew_n faygne_n to_o be_v beyond_o cancasus_fw-la and_o the_o caspian_a sea_n but_o either_o because_o a_o great_a part_n of_o antichrist_n army_n shall_v consist_v of_o barbarous_a people_n which_o come_v out_o of_o scythta_n as_o turk_n tartar_n and_o the_o rest_n or_o which_o i_o rather_o think_v because_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o very_a terrible_a and_o cruel_a army_n for_o we_o call_v they_o scythian_n which_o we_o will_v call_v bloody_a for_o that_o magog_n signify_v the_o scythian_a nation_n it_o be_v manifest_a out_o of_o genes_n 10._o where_o we_o read_v that_o the_o second_o son_n of_o japhet_n be_v call_v magog_n of_o who_o the_o country_n of_o magog_n be_v denominate_v which_o his_o posterity_n inhabit_v which_o be_v scythia_n as_o jasephus_n teach_v lib._n amiq._n cap._n 11._o and_o s._n hierome_n in_o quest_n hebr_n in_o gen._n cap._n 10._o for_o as_o from_o the_o three_o son_n of_o cham_n that_o be_v chus_n myrami_n and_o chanaham_n aethiopia_n be_v call_v chus_n egypt_n myrami_n and_o palestina_n chanaham_n so_o doubtless_o scythia_n be_v call_v magog_n of_o magog_n the_o son_n of_o japhet_n and_o that_o ezechiel_n name_v magog_n have_v relation_n to_o the_o nation_n denominate_v of_o magog_n the_o son_n of_o japhet_n it_o be_v manifest_a because_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o add_v as_o companion_n to_o gog_n other_o nation_n denominate_v of_o other_o son_n or_o nephew_n of_o japhet_n as_o gomer_n togorma_n mosoch_n tubal_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o let_v we_o conclude_v that_o the_o battle_n of_o gog_n and_o magog_n be_v the_o last_o persecution_n which_o antichrist_n shall_v raise_v in_o the_o whole_a world_n against_o the_o church_n neither_o be_v it_o against_o we_o that_o ezech._n cap._n 38._o say_v that_o the_o weapon_n of_o gog_n and_o magog_n shall_v be_v burn_v for_o the_o space_n of_o 7._o year_n whereas_o notwithstanding_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o after_o antichrist_n death_n there_o shall_v not_o be_v past_o 45._o day_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n as_o be_v gather_v out_o of_o daniel_n 12._o for_o ezechiel_n speak_v not_o proper_o but_o figurative_o after_o the_o manner_n of_o prophet_n neither_o mean_v he_o that_o indeed_o those_o weapon_n be_v to_o be_v burn_v for_o the_o space_n of_o 7._o year_n but_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v so_o notable_a a_o overthrow_n that_o the_o lance_n and_o target_n of_o the_o slay_v may_v suffice_v a_o very_a long_a time_n to_o make_v fire_n if_o need_n be_v one_o doubt_n remain_v whether_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o most_o cruel_a persecution_n of_o antichrist_n the_o faith_n and_o religion_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v altogether_o extinguish_v for_o dominicus_n soto_n in_o lib._n 4._o scent_n do_v 46._o q._n 1._o art_n 1._o thought_n sure_o that_o it_o will_v be_v so_o the_o depart_a say_v he_o and_o defection_n from_o that_o seae_n shall_v be_v a_o sign_n of_o the_o consummation_n of_o the_o world_n and_o after_o faith_n be_v extinguish_v by_o the_o departure_n from_o that_o sea_n apostolic_a the_o whole_a world_n shall_v be_v vain_a and_o shall_v without_o cause_n continue_v any_o long_o and_o after_o let_v therefore_o man_n be_v astonish_v how_o pestilent_a self_n love_n be_v for_o thence_o flow_v puss_v up_o and_o pride_n which_o under_o the_o conduct_n of_o antichrist_n shall_v at_o length_n consume_v the_o city_n of_o god_n but_o this_o opinion_n in_o my_o judgement_n can_v be_v defend_v for_o first_o it_o be_v repugnant_a to_o s._n augustine_n who_o lib._n 20._o the_o civet_n dei_fw-la cap_n 11._o say_v that_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v ever_o invincible_a against_o antichrist_n neither_o shall_v she_o say_v he_o forsake_v her_o warfare_n who_o be_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o tent_n second_o it_o seem_v to_o i_o also_o to_o be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o gospel_n for_o matth._n 16._o we_o read_v upon_o this_o book_n i_o will_v build_v my_o church_n and_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v nor_o prevail_v against_o she_o but_o how_o shall_v they_o not_o prevail_v if_o they_o shall_v whole_o extinguish_v she_o likewise_o matth._n 24._o our_o lord_n say_v of_o the_o minister_n of_o antichrist_n they_o shall_v give_v great_a
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