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prologue_n in_o bibl._n neque_fw-la all_o quemm_n veat_n quod_fw-la in_o judith_n &_o thobiae_fw-la prologis_fw-la dicitur_fw-la quod_fw-la apud_fw-la hebraeos_fw-la inter_fw-la hâ—giographa_n leguntur_fw-la qui_fw-la manifestus_fw-la error_n est_fw-la &_o apocrypha_n non_fw-la hagiographa_fw-la est_fw-la legendum_fw-la qui_fw-la error_n in_fw-la omnibus_fw-la quos_fw-la viderim_fw-la codicibus_fw-la invenitur_fw-la &_o inolâ—uit_fw-la
〈◊〉_d romana_fw-la athanasius_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hist_o cap._n 〈…〉_o s._n 〈◊〉_d basil_n &_o augustine_n style_v thâ—se_a writing_n â—â—ving_v his_o counterfeit_a calixius_n at_o rome_n make_v these_o book_n canonical_a it_o be_v plain_a that_o they_o be_v so_o term_v in_o respect_n of_o other_o corrupt_a writing_n which_o be_v read_v in_o the_o church_n at_o that_o time_n which_o practice_n be_v except_v against_o by_o the_o three_o council_n of_o carthage_n 〈◊〉_d as_o it_o be_v urge_v by_o the_o jesuite_n wherein_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o nothing_o shall_v be_v read_v in_o the_o church_n under_o the_o name_n of_o divine_a scripture_n and_o i_o think_v you_o will_v not_o conceive_v this_o inhibition_n have_v any_o relation_n to_o any_o of_o those_o book_n we_o call_v apocryphal_a they_o be_v never_o condemn_v to_o be_v read_v by_o the_o church_n beside_o bellarmine_n tell_v we_o the_o title_n of_o divine_a â—â—_o give_v by_o most_o 〈◊〉_d and_o most_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o prayer_n of_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 3_o and_o 4._o of_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 3._o and_o 4._o of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o book_n of_o pastorâ—_n â—_z etc._n etc._n and_o the_o call_n of_o 〈◊〉_d prophetical_a scripture_n by_o s._n ambrose_n be_v to_o like_a effect_n it_o be_v give_v to_o the_o four_o book_n of_o eâ—â—ras_n which_o the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o have_v canonical_a scripture_n though_o it_o be_v lift_v up_o with_o as_o great_a a_o testimony_n from_o that_o father_n revelatione_fw-la father_n sixtus_n seneâ—_n bibl._n sancta_fw-la lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr esdâ—â—_n lib._n 3._o &_o 4._o divus_o ambrose_n etiam_fw-la quartum_fw-la librum_fw-la putat_fw-la editum_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la esdra_n non_fw-la sine_fw-la divinâ_fw-la revelatione_fw-la as_o the_o book_n of_o toby_n which_o he_o be_v willing_a to_o justify_v but_o leave_v toby_n with_o his_o dog_n the_o jesuite_n have_v some_o further_a proof_n for_o the_o macehabee_n they_o be_v allege_v say_v he_o as_o other_o canonical_a book_n of_o scripture_n be_v without_o any_o difference_n and_o who_o be_v the_o alleger_n cyprian_a 〈◊〉_d â—en_n and_o ambrose_n â—â—_o ambrose_n reply_v pag._n â—â—_o two_o thing_n be_v here_o to_o be_v examine_v first_o whether_o every_o book_n cite_v by_o a_o father_n be_v canonical_a second_o how_o and_o in_o what_o manner_n they_o be_v urge_v and_o cite_v by_o the_o father_n first_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o there_o be_v no_o ground_n that_o the_o cite_n of_o a_o book_n by_o a_o father_n shall_v turn_v his_o nature_n when_o a_o apostle_n pen_n have_v not_o that_o virtue_n in_o itself_o unless_o he_o will_v conclude_v all_o those_o poet_n cite_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o book_n of_o eâ—â—ch_n by_o jude_n to_o be_v reckon_v within_o the_o canon_n beside_o if_o this_o argument_n have_v any_o life_n in_o it_o against_o we_o why_o 〈◊〉_d it_o not_o have_v the_o same_o strength_n against_o papist_n to_o prove_v the_o book_n call_v pastor_n to_o be_v canonical_a which_o as_o bellarmine_n observe_v 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o father_n irenaeus_n who_o give_v it_o the_o name_n of_o scripture_n clemens_n alexandrinus_n and_o origen_n for_o the_o divinorum_fw-la bellarm_n de_fw-fr scriptor_n ecclesâ—_n herman_n five_o hermes_n librum_fw-la scripsit_fw-la apud_fw-la veteres_fw-la valde_fw-la celebrem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d inscripsit_fw-la pastorem_fw-la be_v libâ—â—_n quamvis_fw-la à _fw-la sancto_fw-la 〈◊〉_d reâ—â—o_fw-la lib._n 4_o caprino_fw-la &_o origeâ—â—_n et_fw-la divinorum_fw-la title_n divine_a give_v by_o cyprian_a and_o his_o testimony_n out_o of_o augustine_n there_o need_v no_o further_a illustration_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d answer_v in_o substance_n before_o our_o jesuite_n from_o these_o ground_n the_o principal_a whereof_o iâ—_n s._n hieromes_n ignorance_n begin_v his_o 〈◊〉_d what_o wonder_v then_o if_o the_o church_n at_o rome_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o also_o for_o canonical_a 〈…〉_o the_o slight_a cause_n have_v two_o or_o three_o witness_n &_o those_o without_o exception_n that_o direct_o agree_v one_o with_o a_o other_o in_o give_v testimony_n to_o the_o propose_a article_n the_o jesuiâ—e_n that_o pretend_v the_o ancient_a church_n have_v not_o give_v we_o â—â—â—_o complete_a proof_n from_o the_o same_o and_o those_o which_o he_o â—â—th_v produce_v be_v but_o particular_a man_n with_o one_o provincial_a council_n which_o they_o themselves_o general_o approve_v â—oâ—_n and_o some_o of_o his_o private_a testimony_n say_v little_a to_o the_o purpose_n so_o all_o that_o our_o jesuite_n can_v expect_v be_v this_o that_o in_o some_o private_a judgement_n these_o book_n may_v be_v judge_v canonical_a but_o never_o so_o deliver_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n which_o defence_n the_o book_n pastâ—r_n have_v from_o 〈◊〉_d confession_n and_o the_o four_o of_o esdras_n by_o the_o confession_n of_o your_o own_o sixtuâ—_n senensis_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o there_o be_v reason_n sufficient_a that_o our_o jesuite_n shall_v 〈◊〉_d doâ—â—â—_n his_o 〈◊〉_d whichupon_o so_o vain_a a_o confidence_n heâ—_n have_v erect_v and_o acknowledge_v their_o change_n although_o they_o have_v doâ—â—_n it_o upon_o so_o good_a a_o ground_n as_o the_o embrace_n of_o some_o private_a judgement_n three_o or_o four_o hâ—â—dreth_v yâ—â—es_n after_o christ_n leave_v the_o stream_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n &_o â—he_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o same_o thus_o the_o charge_n appâ—â—â—â—th_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d &_o not_o 〈◊〉_d as_o the_o jesuit_n hope_v to_o have_v prove_v it_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v leâ—â—_n the_o gâ—â—â—rall_a practice_n of_o the_o â—â—â—cient_a church_n and_o have_v imbracâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d private_a 〈◊〉_d not_o for_o love_v of_o their_o person_n but_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d themselves_o they_o find_v some_o shelter_n 〈◊〉_d their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sâ—â—ing_v he_o can_v declare_v they_o scripture_n by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d neither_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o be_v sure_a if_o we_o can_v manifest_v that_o 〈◊〉_d book_n hold_v now_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o church_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o contrary_a sentence_n by_o the_o â—â—cient_a church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o his_o skill_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d say_v the_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d thâ—â—_n euâ—â—_n the_o church_n of_o god_n do_v 〈…〉_o 〈…〉_o before_o the_o church_n declare_v they_o for_o canonical_a by_o 〈◊〉_d authority_n 2d_o authority_n reply_v pag_n 2d_o the_o jesuit_n must_v tell_v we_o what_o he_o meâ—â—â—th_v by_o the_o church_n declare_v they_o by_o public_a authority_n for_o if_o he_o understand_v a_o general_a council_n it_o be_v idle_a for_o they_o never_o come_v to_o be_v so_o â—â—_o yâ—_z canus_n loc_fw-la theol._n l._n â—_o c._n â—â—_o cyprianus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o expositione_n symboli_fw-la â—osdem_fw-la sex_n libros_fw-la patrum_fw-la anctoritate_fw-la a_o quibus_fw-la se_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quod_fw-la idâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d ciâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—ordium_n cuâ—â—que_fw-la diligeâ—ter_fw-la de_fw-fr omnibus_fw-la exploraverat_fw-la omni_fw-la investigatione_n comperit_fw-la hos_fw-la libâ—â—â—_n esse_fw-la a_o veteris_fw-la instrumenti_fw-la be_o in_fw-la psalmum_fw-la â—â—â—_o sed_fw-la &_o i_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d caâ—_n â—â—_o audacious_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n as_o to_o claim_v the_o privilege_n to_o â—â—eepe_v into_o the_o canon_n beside_o he_o be_v as_o foâ—d_v in_o the_o consequent_a that_o they_o have_v make_v no_o change_n herein_o from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d church_n unless_o we_o can_v show_v that_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o god_n do_v give_v judgement_n or_o sentenâ—â—_n contrary_a to_o their_o trent_n declaration_n in_o a_o general_a council_n for_o if_o this_o be_v good_a reason_n the_o council_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v 〈◊〉_d the_o 3._o &_o 4._o book_n of_o esdras_n pastor_n their_o decretal_a epistle_n gregory_n siâ—tus_n yea_o what_o not_o &_o plead_v in_o the_o same_o manner_n that_o they_o have_v make_v no_o change_n they_o never_o be_v in_o your_o judgement_n i_o think_v condemn_v by_o the_o public_a authority_n of_o any_o general_a council_n in_o the_o ancient_a catholic_a church_n that_o do_v give_v judgement_n or_o sentence_n conâ—â—ry_o thereunto_o but_o if_o the_o church_n may_v be_v say_v to_o give_v â—â—â—_o judgement_n against_o the_o book_n of_o judith_n toby_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d by_o keep_v they_o out_o of_o the_o canoâ—_n as_o no_o doubt_n â—â—_o may_v practise_v be_v the_o best_a declareâ—_n of_o man_n judgement_n it_o shall_v be_v manifest_v sufficient_o that_o they_o have_v long_a 〈◊〉_d receive_v their_o doom_n for_o first_o they_o be_v always_o difâ—â—â—â—med_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o canon_n &_o rule_n of_o faith_n 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o jesuit_n have_v not_o produce_v one_o private_a 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v plain_a and_o convince_a for_o almost_o â—â—â—_o year_n 〈◊〉_d christ_n second_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d catalogue_n
angel_n and_o the_o resurrection_n and_o convince_v they_o for_o such_o by_o the_o scripture_n do_v you_o think_v this_o trick_n of_o popish_a deceit_n will_v have_v exempt_v they_o from_o censure_n or_o preserve_v they_o for_o saint_n sure_o if_o this_o jesuiteâ—nquired_v â—nquired_z after_o truth_n he_o will_v not_o thus_o spend_v himself_o with_o vain_a delay_n and_o exception_n if_o a_o sadduce_n shall_v now_o appear_v and_o teach_v the_o same_o doctrine_n as_o pope_n john_n notoriê_fw-la john_n council_n constan_n sess_n 11._o item_n quod_fw-la dictus_fw-la joannes_n papa_n vigesmus_fw-la tertius_fw-la â—apeè_fw-la &_o saepiùs_fw-la coraâ—_n diverâ—â—â—_n praelatis_fw-la &_o alijs_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o probis_fw-la viriâ—_fw-la pertinaâ—iter_fw-la diabolo_fw-la suadente_fw-la dixit_fw-la asseruâ—â—â—_a dogmatiâ—avit_n &_o adâ—â—â—uxit_fw-la vitam_fw-la aeternam_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la nequâ—_n aliam_fw-la post_fw-la hanc_fw-la quin_fw-la imo_fw-la dixit_fw-la &_o pertinaciter_fw-la 〈◊〉_d animaâ—â—_n 〈…〉_o &_o extinguâ—_n 〈…〉_o dixitque_fw-la 〈…〉_o die_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d contra_fw-la articulum_fw-la de_fw-la resurrectione_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr premissis_fw-la fuit_fw-la &_o est_fw-la dictus_fw-la joannes_n papa_n apud_fw-la clerum_fw-la &_o populuae_fw-la gravites_fw-la diâ—â—aâ—atuâ—_n sicque_fw-la ut_fw-la praediciâ—â—r_fw-la fuit_fw-la dictum_fw-la tentum_fw-la creditum_fw-la &_o reputatum_fw-la diciâ—urque_fw-la tenetur_fw-la creditur_fw-la &_o reputatur_fw-la palà m_fw-la publicâ—_fw-la &_o notoriê_fw-la the_o xxiiith_o do_v how_o will_v he_o stop_v his_o mouth_n do_v you_o think_v that_o he_o will_v be_v force_v from_o necessity_n to_o urge_v the_o scripture_n why_o the_o 〈◊〉_d urge_v they_o here_o and_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o he_o can_v be_v content_a with_o they_o in_o other_o matter_n also_o if_o they_o will_v afford_v they_o the_o like_a â—â—elter_n but_o those_o that_o be_v strangle_v must_v needs_o make_v mouth_n though_o they_o can_v speak_v nothing_o 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reply_v pag._n 9_o whatsoever_o the_o jesuite_n pretend_v there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n in_o josephus_n whereby_o he_o can_v prove_v the_o beginning_n of_o the_o sadducee_n their_o opinion_n of_o deny_v angel_n or_o indeed_o when_o they_o begin_v to_o be_v a_o sect_n for_o in_o the_o place_n antiâ—â—â—â—_n place_n lib._n 1â—_n antiâ—â—â—â—_n allege_v by_o he_o josephus_n tell_v we_o that_o there_o be_v three_o sect_n among_o the_o jew_n one_o of_o the_o pharisee_n a_o other_o of_o the_o sadducee_n &_o the_o three_o of_o the_o essenes_n who_o be_v account_v sect_n not_o in_o their_o inchoation_n but_o perfection_n about_o 143._o year_n before_o christ_n in_o the_o time_n of_o this_o high_a priest_n and_o the_o same_o author_n in_o a_o other_o place_n 〈…〉_o place_n 〈…〉_o express_v thing_n do_v some_o 11._o year_n after_o christ_n show_v that_o the_o jew_n be_v divide_v into_o sect_n a_o 〈◊〉_d retrò_fw-la 〈◊〉_d which_o can_v not_o be_v if_o they_o begin_v in_o the_o time_n assign_v by_o 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purpose_n prove_v strong_o that_o to_o be_v a_o heresy_n the_o original_a whereof_o he_o be_v no_o way_n able_a to_o demonstrate_v unto_o we_o which_o enervate_v &_o cut_v asunder_o the_o very_a heartstring_n of_o his_o argument_n the_o grecian_n câ—â—cassians_n georgian_o syrian_n egyptian_n habissine_n muscovite_n &_o russian_n say_v the_o most_o learned_a primate_n dissâ—â—t_v at_o this_o day_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o many_o 〈◊〉_d will_v you_o take_v upon_o you_o to_o show_v in_o what_o bishop_n day_n these_o several_a difference_n do_v first_o arise_v to_o this_o the_o jesuite_n repli_v i_o will_v s_o â—_o and_o by_o god_n help_n perform_v it_o also_o out_o of_o the_o learned_a work_n of_o our_o modern_a catholic_a â—â—iters_n â—_o â—â—iters_n reply_v pag._n â—_o but_o before_o this_o be_v perform_v the_o jesuite_n must_v remember_v what_o their_o own_o 12._o own_o a._n c_o his_o true_a relation_n of_o sundry_a conference_n pag._n 11._o 12._o require_v of_o we_o in_o 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principio_fw-la reply_v pag._n 20_o etc._n etc._n here_o any_o man_n may_v see_v that_o this_o jesuite_n dare_v not_o stand_v to_o his_o accept_a motion_n to_o be_v try_v by_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n the_o sacred_a scripture_n and_o therefore_o he_o labour_v to_o weaken_v the_o strength_n thereof_o but_o let_v he_o mantle_n himself_o in_o his_o pretence_n never_o so_o much_o this_o be_v sufficient_a to_o declare_v that_o a_o change_n have_v be_v make_v which_o be_v all_o that_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n desire_v to_o conclude_v so_o that_o if_o we_o can_v declare_v that_o papist_n no_o protestant_n in_o their_o change_n make_v have_v fall_v from_o the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o primitive_a time_n the_o jesuite_n will_v rest_v like_o a_o franciscan_a novice_n demure_a and_o tongue-tied_a for_o ever_o for_o the_o three_o first_o instance_n we_o confess_v that_o a_o change_n have_v be_v make_v and_o that_o herein_o we_o 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