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A19948 A discourse of the conference holden before the French King at Fontain-bleau between the L. Bishop of Eureux, and Munsieur de Plessis L. of Mornay, the 4. of May 1600. Concerning certaine pretended corruptions of authors, cyted by the sayd Munsieur de Plessis in his booke against the Masse. Faithfully translated out of the French. 1600 (1600) STC 6381; ESTC S109408 46,856 60

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●_o ed._n 3_o p._n 498._o l._n 22._o allege_v by_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n in_o his_o book_n p._n 537._o li._n 31._o where_o he_o examine_v all_o the_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o the_o adversary_n do_v bold_o apply_v to_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n namely_o this_o out_o of_o jeremy_n 15._o istum_fw-la 15._o jerem._n c._n 15._o five_o 1._o si_fw-mi stererint_fw-la moses_n &_o samuel_n coram_fw-la i_o non_fw-la est_fw-la anima_fw-la mea_fw-la ad_fw-la populum_fw-la istum_fw-la though_o samuel_n and_o moses_n shall_v stand_v before_o i_o yet_o shall_v not_o my_o affection_n be_v to_o this_o people_n in_o which_o place_n have_v prove_v by_o s._n h●erosme_n theodoret_n s._n gregory_n hugo_n cardinal_n yea_o the_o gloss_n itself_o that_o this_o place_n be_v mean_v of_o the_o intercession_n of_o moses_n and_o samuel_n when_o they_o live_v between_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o people_n but_o not_o of_o any_o intercession_n of_o the_o dead_a saint_n 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and_o that_o indeed_o he_o allege_v it_o after_o the_o phrase_n of_o the_o gramarian_n oratione_fw-la obliqua_fw-la non_fw-la recta_fw-la in_o a_o overthwart_a and_o not_o direct_a speech_n by_o this_o word_n that_o he_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o that_o he_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o the_o course_n of_o the_o text_n to_o the_o other_o that_o in_o this_o allegation_n he_o have_v no_o other_o purpose_n but_o to_o show_v that_o chrisostom_n out_o of_o this_o place_n of_o jeremy_n have_v not_o gather_v as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n at_o this_o day_n do_v the_o intercession_n and_o invocation_n of_o the_o decease_a saint_n but_o contrariwise_o have_v collect_v this_o doctrine_n that_o we_o must_v not_o general_o stand_v upon_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n whether_o alive_a or_o dead_a in_o some_o upon_o other_o man_n prayer_n but_o that_o we_o must_v watch_v pray_v and_o endeavour_n as_o the_o apostle_n say_v to_o make_v sure_a our_o salvation_n with_o fear_n and_o tremble_a and_o 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wise_a have_v omit_v it_o if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v to_o be_v omit_v but_o thou_o will_v say_v the_o mother_n of_o our_o lord_n must_v be_v honour_v thou_o give_v we_o good_a warning_n but_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o queen_n must_v be_v do_v unto_o she_o with_o judgement_n the_o royal_a virgin_n note_n for_o unmeete_a honour_n need_v no_o false_a honour_n be_v as_o she_o be_v lade_v with_o the_o true_a title_n of_o honour_n wherein_o we_o be_v then_o to_o note_v the_o true_a period_n cite_v by_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n even_o that_o which_o concern_v the_o conception_n and_o the_o other_o that_o touch_v the_o false_a honour_n attribute_v to_o the_o holy_a virgin_n immediate_o and_o in_o one_o sequence_n whereby_o he_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o add_v that_o which_o follow_v far_o enough_o off_o magnifica_fw-la gratiae_fw-la inventricem_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o have_v he_o undertake_v to_o set_v down_o the_o whole_a epistle_n he_o prosecute_v the_o reason_n in_o regard_n whereof_o the_o feast_n of_o the_o conception_n have_v no_o reason_n in_o a_o long_a discourse_n and_o towards_o the_o conclusion_n redouble_v the_o same_o sentence_n that_o he_o have_v set_v at_o the_o begin_n in_o his_o preface_n etc._n preface_n ibidem_fw-la sub_fw-la sinem_fw-la pag._n dico_fw-la gloriosam_fw-la de_fw-la spiritu_fw-la s._n concepisse_fw-la non_fw-la autem_fw-la &_o conceptam_fw-la fuisse_fw-la dico_fw-la peperisse_fw-la virginem_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la &_o partam_fw-la a_o virgin_n alioquin_fw-la ubi_fw-la erit_fw-la praerogativa_fw-la matris_fw-la domini_fw-la etc._n etc._n non_fw-la est_fw-la hoc_fw-la virginem_fw-la honorare_fw-la sed_fw-la honori_fw-la detrahere_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o say_v say_v he_o that_o the_o glorious_a virgin_n conceive_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n but_o not_o that_o she_o be_v conceive_v that_o she_o a_o virgin_n bring_v forth_o a_o child_n not_o that_o she_o be_v chill_v of_o a_o virgin_n otherwise_o what_o prerogative_n be_v it_o to_o the_o mother_n of_o the_o lord_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v no_o honour_v of_o the_o virgin_n but_o rather_o a_o abasement_n of_o her_o honour_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o say_v he_o levitatis_fw-la he_o et_fw-la paulò_fw-la post_fw-la cum_fw-la haec_fw-la ita_fw-la se_fw-la habeant_fw-la quaenam_fw-la iam_fw-la erit_fw-la festivae_fw-la ratio_fw-la conceptionis_fw-la quo_fw-la pacto_fw-la inquam_fw-la aut_fw-la sanctus_fw-la asseretur_fw-la conceptus_fw-la qui_fw-la de_fw-la spiritu_fw-la s._n non_fw-la est_fw-la ne_fw-la dicam_fw-la de_fw-fr peccato_fw-la est_fw-la aut_fw-la festus_fw-la habebitur_fw-la qui_fw-la minime_fw-la sanctus_fw-la est_fw-la libentur_fw-la gloriosa_fw-la hoc_fw-la honore_fw-la carebit_fw-la quo_fw-la vel_fw-la peccatum_fw-la honorari_fw-la vel_fw-la falsa_fw-la induci_fw-la videtur_fw-la sanctitas_fw-la alioquin_fw-la nulla_fw-la ei_fw-la ratione_fw-la placebit_fw-la contra_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ritum_fw-la praesumata_fw-la novitas_fw-la mater_fw-la temeritatis_fw-la soror_fw-la superstitionis_fw-la filia_fw-la levitatis_fw-la thing_n be_v at_o this_o pass_n what_o reason_n can_v there_o be_v to_o celebrate_v the_o conception_n i_o say_v how_o can_v we_o affirm_v the_o conception_n to_o be_v holy_a which_o be_v not_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n i_o will_v not_o say_v which_o be_v of_o sin_n or_o how_o shall_v we_o sanctify_v this_o conception_n which_o can_v be_v holy_a sure_o the_o holy_a virgin_n can_v be_v content_a to_o forbear_v this_o honour_n whereby_o her_o sin_n shall_v be_v honour_v or_o a_o false_a holiness_n bring_v in_o in_o another_o place_n no_o novelty_n presume_v without_o reason_n contrary_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n can_v she_o like_v of_o mother_n of_o rashness_n sister_n of_o superstition_n daughter_n of_o inconstancy_n or_o lightness_n then_o do_v he_o afterward_o refer_v himself_o to_o the_o decision_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o belong_v not_o to_o our_o purpose_n now_o let_v any_o upright_a mind_n judge_v whether_o there_o be_v any_o hold_n to_o be_v take_v against_o this_o place_n whereupon_o notwithstanding_o for_o the_o satisfy_n of_o his_o importunity_n it_o be_v pronounce_v that_o it_o have_v be_v good_a to_o distinguish_v the_o two_o place_n of_o s._n bernard_n in_o oneself_o book_n namely_o of_o this_o self_n epistle_n by_o one_o etc._n etc._n which_o nevertheless_o albeit_o repeat_v in_o two_o several_a place_n do_v immediate_o follow_v each_o other_o the_o nine_o place_n out_o of_o theodoret._n the_o nine_o be_v take_v out_o of_o theodoret_n upon_o the_o 113_o psalm_n allege_v by_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n pag._n 218._o lin_z 9_o in_o these_o word_n 13_o lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr euchar_n ch_n 2._o edit_n 1._o p._n 218._o l._n 9_o edit_n 2._o p._n 234._o l._n 21._o edit_n 3._o p._n 195_o l._n 13_o god_n say_v he_o do_v what_o he_o please_v but_o image_n be_v make_v as_o it_o please_v man_n they_o have_v the_o habitation_n of_o the_o sense_n but_o sense_n they_o have_v none_o be_v herein_o inferior_a to_o the_o fly_n flease_v and_o all_o vermin_n and_o it_o be_v meet_v that_o they_o that_o worship_v they_o shall_v loose_v both_o reason_n and_o sense_n and_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n have_v take_v the_o most_o substantial_a clause_n of_o this_o psalm_n but_o the_o lord_n of_o eur._n pretend_a falsehood_n in_o two_o respect_n in_o the_o translation_n because_o he_o express_v simulacra_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o image_n for_o he_o will_v have_v it_o ido●●●_n in_o omission_n because_o he_o have_v not_o set_v down_o a_o gentibus_fw-la cul●a_fw-la worship_v or_o s●●ued_v by_o the_o gen●●●s_n to_o distinguish_v they_o say_v he_o from_o the_o image_n of_o the_o christian_n to_o the_o first_o the_o lord_n of_o plis●is_n answer_v that_o these_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d simulach●a_n imagine_v do_v usual_o pass_v for_o one_o and_o this_o do_v the_o lord_n of_o plis●is_n offer_v he_o to_o prove_v but_o he_o will_v not_o enter_v thereinto_o and_o indeed_o in_o the_o 40._o of_o esay_n where_o the_o old_a interpreter_n say_v simulacrum_fw-la the_o septuaginte_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d image_n and_o in_o the_o 4._o of_o deutronomy_n the_o old_a interpreter_n translate_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d imaginem_fw-la the_o septuaginte_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o same_o old_a interpreter_n translate_v in_o the_o 33_o of_o the_o chronicle_n simulacrum_fw-la that_o which_o the_o septuaginte_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o first_o of_o the_o roman_n where_o s._n ●a●●_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lombard_n caietan_n stapuiensis_n osor●us_fw-la &_o c._n ●●ue_v translate_v simulacrum_fw-la in_o the_o scripture_n they_o be_v therefore_o indifferent_a for_o the_o father_n etc._n father_n just_a martyr_n in_o tryphone_n pag._n 251_o edit_n hierca_fw-la commel_n grae._n lat._n qut_fw-la per_fw-la mose_n ●●sanxit_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ne_fw-la qua_fw-la omnino_fw-la sieret_fw-la vel_fw-la imago_fw-la vel_fw-la simditudo_fw-la neque_fw-la corum_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o coelo_fw-la sunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n justm_n martyr_v layth_n that_o god_n forbid_v moses_n to_o make_v any_o image_n or_o similitude_n where_o the_o septuaginte_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d seruius_fw-la 〈◊〉_d tertullianus_n de_fw-fr idolelatria_n ch_n 3._o ex_fw-la edit_fw-la pa●●chi_n ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la necessaria_fw-la est_fw-la vocabusi_fw-la in●●_n pret●tio_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d graece_fw-la f●rm●m_fw-la sonat_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la per_fw-la diminutionem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d deductum_fw-la aeque_fw-la apud_fw-la nos_fw-la formu_fw-la 〈…〉_o igitur_fw-la omnis_fw-la forma_fw-la vel_fw-la sormulo_fw-la idolu_fw-la se_fw-la dici_fw-la expos●it_fw-la inde_fw-la idololatria_fw-la omnis_fw-la circa_fw-la omne_fw-la idolum_fw-la samulatus_fw-la &_o seruius_fw-la tertullian_n e●●●s_o in_o greek_a signify_v form_n or_o figure_n whereof_o come_v the_o diminutive_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o we_o do_v interpret_v a_o small_a form_n or_o figure_n therefore_o every_o form_n or_o small_a sorgne_n must_v be_v call_v idolum_fw-la and_o thereof_o idolatry_n all_o honour_n and_o service_n that_o be_v do_v circa_fw-la omne_fw-la idolum_fw-la to_o any_o form_n or_o figure_n again_o lapideas_fw-la again_o f●_n cap._n 4._o qui_fw-la seruitis_fw-la lapid●bus_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la imagine_v sacitis_fw-la ●●●cas_fw-la &_o arge●●eas_n &_o ligneas_fw-la &_o lapideas_fw-la you_o that_o serve_v the_o stone_n and_o that_o make_v jmage_n of_o gold_n and_o of_o silver_n and_o of_o wood_n and_o of_o stone_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o speak_v of_o the_o gentile_n idololatria_fw-la gentile_n item_n eo●um_n ima●●●●_n 〈◊〉_d imagia●●●_n c●●sc●ratio_fw-la idololatria_fw-la their_o image_n be_v jdol_n the_o conse●ratioon_n of_o image_n be_v jdolatry_n minu●ius_n fel●x_n upon_o the_o reproach_n of_o the_o heathen_a celsus_n cast_v in_o his_o dish_n that_o the_o christian_n have_v no_o image_n colere_fw-la image_n min●●_n ●elix_fw-la pag●5_n ●5_z edit_fw-la heidelberg_n quis_fw-la dubitat_fw-la hotum_fw-la imagine_v cons●●ratas_n vulgus_fw-la orare_fw-la &_o publicae_fw-la colere_fw-la who_o doubt_v say_v he_o but_o the_o
heathen_a direct_v their_o prayer_n to_o the_o image_n that_o these_o man_n have_v consecrate_v as_o also_o that_o they_o honour_v they_o public_o with_o religious_a service_n and_o within_o three_o line_n after_o he_o call_v they_o notwithstanding_o simulachra_fw-la etc._n simulachra_fw-la mox_fw-la quod_fw-la si_fw-la in_o animum_fw-la quis_fw-la inducat_fw-la tormentis_fw-la quibus_fw-la &_o quibu●_n machinis_fw-la simulacrum_fw-la omne_fw-la formetur_fw-la erubescet_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o a_o man_n shall_v imagine_v with_o what_o tool_n every_o image_n be_v frame_v etc._n etc._n wherefore_o also_o it_o come_v that_o jsidore_n mean_v no_o other_o subtlety_n 8._o subtlety_n isider_v originun_n li._n 8._o ca._n 8._o simulacra_fw-la say_v he_o a_o similitudine_fw-la nuncupata_fw-la eo_fw-la quòd_fw-la manu_fw-la artificis_fw-la ex_fw-la lapide_fw-la aliàue_fw-la materia_fw-la eorum_fw-la vultus_fw-la imitantur_fw-la in_fw-la quorum_fw-la honorem_fw-la firguntur_fw-la jmage_n so_o call_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o similitude_n because_o by_o the_o workman_n hand_n whether_o of_o stene_n or_o other_o substance_n they_o imitate_v the_o countenance_n of_o those_o to_o who_o honour_n they_o be_v feign_v even_o among_o the_o schoolman_n thomas_n call_v that_o fit_n that_o thomas_n in_o 1._o ad_fw-la corinth_n cap._n 8._o lect_n 1_o simulacrum_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la similitudine_fw-la alicuius_fw-la rei_fw-la natrualis_fw-la fit_n image_n that_o be_v make_v to_o the_o resemblance_n of_o any_o natural_a thing_n also_o durand_n probatur_fw-la durand_n durand_n lib._n 1._o c._n 3._o in_o summario_fw-la art_n 4._o idolorum_fw-la immodicus_fw-la usus_fw-la reprobatur_fw-la modicus_fw-la probatur_fw-la the_o immoderate_a use_n of_o jdol_n be_v reproove_v the_o moderate_a approve_a 1_o of_o image_n and_o in_o the_o same_o chap._n nonsacies_fw-la idolum_fw-la thou_o shall_v not_o make_v thou_o any_o idol_n also_o simulachra_fw-la gentium_fw-la argentum_fw-la &_o aurum_fw-la the_o jmage_n of_o the_o gentile_n be_v silver_n and_o gold_n etc._n etc._n by_o such_o authority_n say_v he_o the_o excessive_a and_o immoderate_a use_n of_o image_n be_v condemn_v etc._n etc._n holcor_v likewise_o expound_v a_o place_n of_o the_o book_n of_o wisdom_n chap._n 3._o against_o the_o idolater_n l_o in_o this_o part_n do_v the_o holy_a ghost_n begin_v to_o condemn_v jdolater_n and_o those_o that_o do_v honour_n and_o serve_v image_n and_o artificial_a figure_n again_o similitudinem_fw-la again_o ibid_fw-la exodi_fw-la 2_o dicitur_fw-la non_fw-la facies_fw-la tibi_fw-la imaginem_fw-la neque_fw-la ullam_fw-la similitudinem_fw-la thou_o shall_v not_o make_v thou_o any_o image_n etc._n etc._n translate_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o image_n so_o new_a a_o matter_n be_v this_o distinction_n between_o idol_n and_o image_n among_o the_o christian_n figuras_fw-la christian_n idem_fw-la lib._n 1._o c_o 3_o ex_fw-la his_fw-la &_o similibus_fw-la auctoritatibus_fw-la reprobatur_fw-la nimius_fw-la imaginum_fw-la usus_fw-la holcot_n in_o lib._n sapien._n lect_v 157._o in_o vers_n 10._o cap._n 13._o in_o hac_fw-la parte_fw-la spiritus_fw-la s._n consequenter_fw-la aggreditur_fw-la reprobare_fw-la idololatras_fw-la qui_fw-la colunt_fw-la imagine_v &_o artificiales_fw-la figuras_fw-la yea_o even_o so_o far_o forth_o that_o pope_n pius_n the_o five_o expound_v the_o ten_o commandment_n confound_v they_o in_o these_o word_n ●●ei_fw-la word_n pius_fw-la quintus_fw-la in_o exp●●ca_n de●●l●gi_fw-la ●●ae●●pto_fw-la 2._o in_o scripture_n iussu_fw-la d●i_fw-la simula●ra_fw-la &_o imagine_v e●●ictas_fw-la le●●●us_fw-la cheru●●●_n serp●ntis_fw-la ●●ei_fw-la in_o the_o scripture_n we_o d●eread_v that_o by_o god_n commandment_n they_o make_v image_n and_o likeness_n as_o of_o the_o cherubin_n of_o the_o serpent_n etc._n etc._n now_o against_o these_o authoritye_n which_o the_o lord_n of_o plessis_n will_v have_v allege_v to_o the_o lord_n of_o eur._n he_o appeal_v for_o help_v to_o henry_n stephens_n thesaurus_fw-la he_o shall_v have_v join_v with_o it_o the_o card._n of_o sens_n his_o calepine_n where_o against_o they_o may_v with_o more_o reason_n have_v oppose_v the_o old_a glosser_n s●mula●rum_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lakenes_n image_n jdoll_n picture_n where_o all_o these_o word_n be_v confound_v together_o thus_o much_o for_o the_o falsehood_n commit_v in_o the_o translation_n now_o for_o the_o second_o in_o the_o omission_n of_o these_o word_n a_o gentibus_fw-la culta_fw-la worship_v or_o serve_v by_o the_o gentile_n the_o l._n of_o pl●_n answer_v that_o of_o themselves_o they_o do_v sufficient_o supply_v in_o that_o the_o psalm_n speak_v direct_o against_o the_o image_n or_o idol_n of_o the_o gentile_n consider_v also_o that_o in_o those_o day_n the_o christian_n have_v no_o image_n as_o be_v already_o sufficient_o prove_v which_o notwithstanding_o be_v no_o let_n but_o that_o that_o psalm_n and_o text_n may_v at_o these_o day_n 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