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A45832 Saturday no sabbath, or, The seventh-day Sabbath proved to be of no force to the beleeving Gentiles in the times of the Gospel, by the law of nature, Moses, Christ being an account of several publique disputations held at Stone-Chappel by Pauls, London, between Dr. Chamberlain, Mr. Tillam, and Mr. Coppinger ... and Jer. Ives ... : together with an appendix in which the said question is more fully and plainly discussed ... / by Jer. Ives. Ives, Jeremiah, fl. 1653-1674. 1659 (1659) Wing I1104; ESTC R24396 120,548 256

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the_o seventh-day_n sabbath_n but_o there_o be_v text_n that_o require_v the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n to_o observe_v it_o and_o therefore_o by_o consequence_n believe_v gentile_n be_v to_o observe_v it_o if_o they_o be_v god_n people_n and_o servant_n mr._n ives_n sir_n what_o proof_n you_o have_v you_o may_v spare_v it_o till_o we_o be_v agree_v how_o to_o dispute_v however_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n let_v i_o tell_v you_o though_o you_o prove_v the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n be_v require_v to_o keep_v the_o seventh-day_n sabbath_n this_o will_v not_o reach_v our_o difference_n because_o the_o jewe_n be_v call_v both_o god_n servant_n and_o people_n who_o we_o say_v be_v bind_v to_o keep_v it_o but_o this_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o all_o believe_a gentile_n be_v bind_v to_o it_o mr._n tillam_n well_o if_o i_o make_v it_o appear_v by_o those_o or_o the_o like_a consequence_n that_o believer_n in_o gospel-time_n be_v to_o keep_v 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o join_v mr._n ives_n but_o mr._n tillam_n have_v confess_v some_o be_v except_v when_o he_o say_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o psalm_n 49._o do_v signify_v only_o such_o man_n that_o trust_v in_o their_o wealth_n and_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o show_v that_o adam_n or_o man_n have_v a_o more_o universal_a signification_n the_o 2_o of_o mark_n then_o in_o psalm_n 49._o since_o the_o ●●rd_n by_o his_o own_o confession_n be_v the_o same_o but_o i_o further_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v frequent_a in_o ●●ripture_n to_o apply_v thing_n unto_o man_n w●en_o yet_o do_v not_o intend_v every_o man_n as_o first_o it_o be_v say_v gen_n 8.21_o i_o will_v no_o more_o curse_v the_o ground_n for_o man_n sake_n etc._n etc._n whenas_o noah_n and_o his_o family_n be_v exempt_v from_o the_o curse_n again_o deut._n 5_o 2d_o it_o be_v there_o say_v that_o god_n do_v talk_v with_o man_z use_v he_o live_v now_o here_o the_o word_n man_z be_v so_o fit_a from_o signify_v 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