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say_v simple_o you_o must_v for_o conscience_n sake_n do_v it_o or_o you_o be_v bind_v for_o conscience_n sake_n to_o do_v it_o for_o then_o all_o the_o human_a constitution_n and_o law_n of_o prince_n may_v be_v say_v to_o bind_v the_o conscience_n because_o saint_n paul_n will_v to_o obey_v they_o for_o conscience_n rom._n 13._o but_o by_o bind_v the_o conscience_n be_v mean_v that_o such_o law_n be_v lay_v upon_o the_o conscience_n to_o be_v observe_v as_o part_v of_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n when_o man_n be_v punish_v for_o not_o keep_v they_o as_o contemn_v god_n worship_n then_o be_v the_o christian_a liberty_n withstand_v but_o when_o y_z e_o discipline_n &_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n do_v compel_v man_n to_o observe_v the_o law_n which_o in_o matter_n of_o comeliness_n and_o order_n be_v make_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o apostle_n they_o be_v not_o punish_v for_o do_v or_o not_o do_v the_o thing_n themselves_o but_o that_o by_o do_v that_o which_o be_v 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