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A44834 An answer to a declaration put forth by the general consent of the people called Anabaptists in and about the city of London which declaration doth rather seem a begging of pardon of the Caveliers then [sic] a vindication of that truth and cause once contended for : I seeing so much wickedness ... / from a true lover and owner of the people called Quakers ... Richard Hubberthorn. Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. Answer to a declaration of the people called Anabaptists. 1659 (1659) Wing H3218; ESTC R16813 19,429 25

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differ from you and why not to the Quakers is it enough for any man to believe that they are irregular because you say so without any proof or dare you not mention wherein you judge it so least they should disprove you but you say there is not any they have expressed more contradiction to in matters of Religion then against you Answ. That is false for they have more contradicted the common Priests of the Nation as their books and sufferings will witness although they have according to truth contradicted you and also have more of your contradictions and confusions to declare concerning you which is not yet published but what do you account their irregular practises is it because their yea is yea and their nay is nay in all their communications and yours not so or is it because they cannot swear at all or is it because they cannot have any mans person in admiration because of advantage or because they cannot respect the person of the rich nor honour the person of the mighty is it because they do unto others as they would have others to do unto them or because they speak the Truth every one to his neighbour without partialitie or hypocrisie or is it any thing relating to these things above named if not in your next mention in what or else the wise in heart will judge you to speak onely from your imaginary conceit but what is your end in so secret smiting them do you think to excuse your selves by accusing them and who is it that doth charge you with countenancing the Quakers in their practises either Regular or Irregular I know none that hath any ground so to charge you but to men of understanding who can see beyond words you rather appear to be begging a pardon of the Episcopal and Presbyter and the wilde Boyes and Apprentices of London by accusing the Quakers as hereafter will appear and that fearfulness and unbelieving is entered into your hearts and so your spirits is betrayed into a slavish fear but if ever you be accepted or owned of God you must own that for your strength which the Quakers live in and if ever any Rule for God in this Nation they must own that light life and spirit which they are guided by and then they will not despise but have unitie with the Quakers To the fourth you say Whereas we are further charged with endeavouring an Vniversal Tolleration of all miscarriages both in things Religious and Civil under pretence of Liberty of Conscience it is in both respects notoriously false And we do before the Lord that shall judge both quick and dead yea before Angels and Men declare our utter detestation of such a Toleration for in matters Civil we desire there may not be the least Tolleration of miscarriage in any much lesse in our selves Nor do we desire in matters of Religion that Popery should be Tolerated the blood of many thousands of the people of God having been barbarously shed by the Professors thereof or any Persons tolerated that worship a false God nor any that speak contemptuously and reproachfully of our Lord Jesus Christ nor any that deny the Holy Scriptures contained in the Books of the Old and New Testament to be the Word of God and yet we are not against tolerating of Episcopacy Presbytery or any stinted form provided they do not compel any others to a compliance therewith or a conformity thereunto For whatever composers of any form of worship may possibly err it is derogating from God and his Holy Word and injurious to men to compel any to the Practise thereof Answ. What confusion is here and contradiction both to your selves and to the example of Christ as to Religion you will not tolerate Popery because the blood of many of the people of God have been barbarously shed by the Professors thereof neither will you have any persons tolerated that worship a false God nor any that speak contemptuously and reproachfully of the Lord Jesus Christ nor any that deny the Holy Scriptures contained in the books of the old and new Testament to be the Word of God And yet you are not against tolerating of Episcopacy Presbytery or any stinted form why will you not tolerate Popery as well as Episcopacie hath not the Professors of Episcopacie murthered and slain and do labour to murther and slay the people of God as well as the Papists and why will you tolerate the Common Prayer among the Episcopacie and not the Mass among the Papists seeing that the Mass was the substance out of which the Common-Prayer was extracted hear is nothing but partialitie to tolerate one thing and not another of the same kind and why will you not tolerate the persons of those that worship a false God nor the persons that deny the Scriptures to be the word of God nor the persons of those that speak contemptuously nor reproachfully of the Lord Jesus Christ An. If you will not tolerate their persons then you will murther or destroy their persons and herein you have proved the accusation against you to be true that you have a design to murther and destroy those that differ from you in matters of Religion as for instance those that worship a false God they differ from you in maters of Religion and you will not have any of their persons Tolerated then their persons must be destroyed for differing from you in matters of Religion and they that deny the Scripture that is the writings to be the Word of God that is to be Christ whose Name is called the Word of God you will not tolerate their persons then you will destroy them because they differ from you in matters of Religion and those that speak reproachfully of Jesus Christ you will not tolerate their persons then you will destroy their persons because they differ from you in matters of Religion and thus having contradicted your selves you have also contradicted the example of Christ for he came among those that worshipped false Gods even Stocks and Stones and Graven Images the works of mens hands and he was not against tolerating their persons neither came he to destroy mens lives because of such things but had a Gospel to Preach unto them whereby they might learn to know the living God and turn from dumb Idols and those that spoke Reproachfully against him and said he had a Devil yet he was not against Tolerating their Persons but Preached the Kingdom of God to them and did bid them seek it and the Righteousness thereof and told them that the Kingdom of God was within them and he was among such as denyed that there was a God or Christ Resurrection Angel or Spirit and this is more then to deny the Scriptures to be the Word of God which indeed is words and not the Word And Christ was not against Tolerating of any of the Persons as you have express'd your selves to be and so shewed forth a murthering Spirit but seeing that you