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A20744 Tvvo sermons the one commending the ministerie in generall: the other defending the office of bishops in particular: both preached, and since enlarged by George Dovvname Doctor of Diuinitie. Downame, George, d. 1634. 1608 (1608) STC 7125; ESTC S121022 394,392 234

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