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A07963 The vvoefull crie of Rome Containing a defiance to popery. With Thomas Bells second challenge to all fauorites of that Romish faction. Succinctly comprehending much variety of matter ... Bell, Thomas, fl. 1593-1610. 1605 (1605) STC 1833; ESTC S101554 53,995 85

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THE VVoefull crie of Rome Containing a defiance to popery With Thomas Bells second challenge to all fauorites of that Romish faction Succinctly comprehending much variety of matter full of honest recreation and very profitable and expedient for all sorts of people but especially for all simply seduced Papists Goe out of her my people that ye be not partakers of her sins and that ye receiue not of her plagues Apocal. 18.4 LONDON Printed by T.C. for William Welby and are to be sold at his shop in Paules Church-yard at the signe of the Grayhound 1605. Academiae Cantabrigiensis Liber TO THE RIGHT HONOVRAble my very good Lord Thomas the Lord of Ellesmere Lord high Chauncellour of England SAint Paul that chosen Vessell of God Right Honourable made a base reckoning of all other things in the world in respect of the knowledge of our Lord Iesus Christ. This knowledge was so deare to the Princely Prophet Dauid that he desired to be but a doore-keeper in Gods house rather then to dwel in the goodly Pallaces of great Parsonages esteeming one day better in Gods Church then a thousand otherwhere This knowledge yeelded so sweete a sauour in the nosethrels of holy Moses that he chose rather to be the childe of God then to be called the sonne of King Phoraohs daughter This knowledge was to the wisest King so precious that hee reputed it not onely the beginning of wisedome but euen the finall ende which he aymed at with the loue of which knowledge hee was so rauished Oh most excellent knowledge that hauing in his owne free election what hee would receiue at Gods hands hee desireth neither long life which the greater part of people thirst after nor riches which are the greatest ioyes of al couetous worldlings nor yet the death of his enemies which the dauncing Damosell preferred before a Kingdome but he humbly asked an vnderstanding heart that he might discerne between good and euil and iudge aright Gods people committed to his charge a most wise and holy request This petition pleased God so well that he gaue the King a wise and vnderstanding heart so that there was neuer any either before or after him comparable or like vnto him And no marueile that the true Children of God desire the true knowledge of God before all other things For as our Sauiour himselfe teacheth vs this knowledge is life eternall the ioy of all ioyes But my good Lord it may here bee demaunded how this most excellent knowledge can bee attained To which I answere euen by dilligent reading of the holy Scriptures For Saint Paul writing vnto Timothie commendeth his knowledge in the holy Scriptures which he had attained of a childe and he yeeldeth this reason therof because forsooth saith the Apostle the Scriptures are able to make him wise vnto saluation Is this possible is it so indeed euen so doubtlesse Gods Spirit cannot lye Howe then commeth it to passe that the late Byshops of Rome now Cat ' e'xochen called Popes doe this day suppresse the light of the Gospel and forbid the Lay-people to read the holy Scriptures in their vulgar language How chanceth it that none may read any Commentaries vpon the old and newe Testament nor any other bookes compiled for the furtherāce of mans knowledge in that behalfe vnlesse either the said bookes Commentaries be composed by professed papists or the readers being the Popes sworne vassals haue his dispensation and licence so to doe This my good Lord is the reason that cannot in truth be denied They that doe euill hate the light fearing that it should reproue their naughtie deedes And for this end is it that the Pope can not endure the manifestation of Gods word which is a lanterne vnto our feete a bright shining light vnto our soules directing vs the path-way to heauen For this light if the pope did not smoother it vnder the ashes and violently keepe it vnder a bushell would in short time so enlighten the hearts of all well disposed people that all the world would detest the Pope all popish superstition heresies and blasphemies and all his bloodie tyrannicall and plaine antichristian dealing In regard hereof most honourable Baron and most worthy zealous christian vpright and religious Magistrate because it is not enough for a Christian to know God himselfe but he must withall heartily wish and effectually procure so much as lyeth in him that others may also know and worship the euer-liuing God with him I haue employed my studie diligence care and industrie to deliuer a very compendious enchiridion to al simple seduced Papists to other thankfull Readers wherein they may behold as cleerely as the noone-day the original of popish falsly pretended Primacie the meanes by which the Byshops of Rome aspired thereunto the royall titles and power plaine diuine ascribed to the Popes the liues maners and conversation of Popes the rotten foundations vpon which and by which Poperie is builded and vnderpropped the originall and sundry grounds of Popish Purgatorie the vanitie and vncertaintie of Popish Succession the popish execrable Excommunications Superstitions Adorations and many other matters of great moment By the due and serious consideration whereof the indifferent Reader cannot but behold the abhomination of late Romish Religion and consequently loath detest and vtterly renounce the same for euer The worke such as it is I haue dedicated vnto your Honour for two speciall causes First to intimate to the world my inward conceiued comfort ioy and solace which either is or at least ought to bee common to my selfe with all other honest and true harted English Subiects of your Lordships most honorable zealous christian conscionable vpright painefull and religious care vigillancie holy constant indeuours vnder God and his most exellent Maiestie both for the indifferencie of iustice extended at al persons aswel to the poore as to the rich which is not the vsuall practise of many Magistrates alas for the pittie and also generally for the common good and peaceable gouernment of this Kingdome Secondly to giue at the least some smal signification of a thākfull minde where power is wanting for your Lordships most honourable yea vnspeakable fauours towards me from time to time euen such and so great as without which I could not this day breathe vppon earth much lesse make vse of my small talent Quod sentio quam sit exiguum for the common good of others The Almightie giue your Lordship many long ioyfull and happy yeares with much increase of vertue holy zeale and true honour in this life and with life eternall in the world to come Amen From my Studie this first of Aprill 1605. Your Lordships most humble and bounden T. Bell. Thomas Bels defiance to Poperie with a second challenge CHAP. I. Of the originall of Popish Primacie I Haue proued at large elsewhere how Poperie crept into the Curch by peece-meale and how she receiued her daily
case in most plaine termes and blushed no whit thereat These are his expresse wordes Nec me latet D. Thomam praeuia maxima deliberatione asserere Rom. pontificem non posse propria dispensatione continentiae solemne votum monachorum tollere paulo post oportet tamen primam opinionem defendere ne qua passim fiant evertantur omnino Englished thus Neither am I ignorant that Saint Thomas affirmeth after exceeding great deliberation that the Byshop of Rome can not by his owne proper dispensation take away from Monkes their solemne vowe of chastitie This notwithstanding the former opinion must bee defended least those things which are vsually done by the pope in euery place be ouerthrowne and turned vp side downe Thus writeth this famous papist Out of whose wordes I note many very profitable Lessons for the benefite of the thankfull Reader First that the papists can not agree concerning their popes authoritie this is a point of great consequence Secondly that great learned Papists among whom Aquinas is one whose Doctrine sundry Popes haue confirmed doe roundly controwle the Popes vsurped authoritie Thirdly that their opinion must perforce bee defended which agreeth with the Popes vsuall practise and dealing because otherwise all the popes doings would soone bee ouerthrowne and poperie it selfe turned vpside downe This is a memorable obseruation wherein my bare relation would neuer carry credite if the truth thereof proceeded not from the pen of a famous popish writer Fourthly that the Popes Doctrine and popish Religion is most miserable which must bee vnderpropped and maintained by such poore sillie and beggerly shifts Fiftly that the papists haue no cause to exclaime against Priestes Marriage seeing the pope dispenseth at his pleasure with his owne Monkes in that behalfe Sixtly that the Doctrine of Aquinas which sundry popes haue approued confuteth the popes Religion So then the popes doings must needes bee defended because otherwise poperie can not stand Alas alas how hath the late Romish Religion seduced vs CHAP. XIII Of popish false forged purgatorie COncerning this point of doctrine genle Reader whosoeuer shall marke attentiuely what I shall sincerely God willing deliuer euen from the pen of a famous popish writer M. Doctor Fisher late Byshop of Rochester about 22. Miles distant from London can not doubtlesse but haue beare and conceiue in euerlasting hatred alienation of minde and resolute detestation not onely against popish purgatorie but also against all the rest of late hatched popish doctrine These therefore are the expresse words of this famous popish writer Sed graecis ad hunc vsque diem non est creditum purgatorium esse Legat qui velit Graecorum veterum commentarios nullum quantum opinor aut quam rarissimum de purgatori● sermonem inveniet Sed neque latini simul omnes at sensim huius rei veritatē conceperūt sequitur non absque maxima sancti spiritus dispensatione factum est quod post tot annorum curricula purgatorij fides indulgentiarum vsus ab orthodoxis generatim sit receptus quamdiu nulla fuerat de purgatorio cura nemo quaesiuit indulgentias Nam ex illo pendet omnis indulgentiarum existimatio si tollas purgatorium quorsum indulgentijs opus erit his n si nullum fuerit purgatoriū nihil indigebimus contemplantes igitur aliquandiu purgatorium incognitum fuisse deinde quibusdam pedetentim partim ex reuelationibus partim ex scripturis fuisse creditum atque ita tandem generatim eius fidem ab orthodoxa ecclesia fuisse receptissimam facillimè rationem aliquam indulgentiarum intelligimus quum itaque purgatorium tam serò cognitū ac receptum ecclesiae fuerit vniuersae quis iam de indulgentijs mirari potest quod in principio nascentis ecclesiae nullus fuerat carum vsus caeperunt igitur indulgentiae postquam ad purgatorij cruciatus aliquandiu trepidatum erat Englished thus The Greekes to this day doe not beleeue that there is a purgatorie Read who list the Commentaries of the auncient Gretians and hee shall finde either very seldome mention of purgatorie or none at all For neither did the Latin Church conceiue the truth of this matter at one and the same time but by leisure and by little and little Neither was it done without the great dispensation of the holy Ghost that after so many yeares Catholiques both beleeued there was a purgatorie and also receiued the popes pardons generally so long as there was no care of purgatorie no man sought for pardons For of it dependeth all that estimation and credite which is ascribed vnto pardons If thou take away purgatorie to what end shall pardons be needfull For if there be no purgatorie we shall haue no need of pardons Considering therefore how long purgatorie was vnknowne then that some beleeued it by little and little partly by revelations and partly by the Scriptures and so at the length the whole Church receiued it wee doe easily vnderstand the cause of pardons Since therefore purgatorie was so lately known and receiued of the vniuersall Church who can now admire that there was no vse of pardons in the Primitiue Church pardons therefore then began when the people being bewitched stoode in the feare of purgatorie-paine and torment These are the expresse words of this famous popish Byshoppe when hee writing against M. Luther did with might and maine to the vttermost of his power and hee was able to say write as much as any papist in the world defend the popes authoritie and his late hatched Romish Religion which the vulgar sort of people being pitifully seduced Alas alas that they will not hearken vnto the truth which the maister-papists are enforced to confesse doe zealously embrace humbly obey wonderfully admire and terme it but most falslie and ignorantly the old religion I would gladly doe thee good gentle Reader and take any paine to my selfe to profite thy soule perswade thy selfe that I deale faithfully with thee and that I doe in none of my bookes which I either haue written or shall by Gods permission write in time to come charge the papists with any thing but the meere truth For I doe assure thee that my proceeding in the discouery of popish superstiōs vanities enormities falshoods dissentions schismes crueltie tyrannie errours heresies blasphemies is such so sincere as vppon a saluo conducto as they terme it granted from any king Christian licence procured of my gracious dread souergaine I am will be most willing to repaire into any prouince in Christendom there to giue an account and to make tryall of the same This offer gentle Reader I made aboue ten yeares agoe when I published my booke of Motiues as the Reader may easily find in peruse thereof but to this day no papist euer durst accept the same or answere either that booke of Motiues or any other that I haue written I therefore here make the same offer againe and I adde thereunto