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A83515 The third part of Gangræna. Or, A new and higher discovery of the errors, heresies, blasphemies, and insolent proceedings of the sectaries of these times; with some animadversions by way of confutation upon many of the errors and heresies named. ... Briefe animadversions on many of the sectaries late pamphlets, as Lilburnes and Overtons books against the House of Peeres, M. Peters his last report of the English warres, The Lord Mayors farewell from his office of maioralty, M. Goodwins thirty eight queres upon the ordinance against heresies and blasphemies, M. Burtons Conformities deformity, M. Dells sermon before the House of Commons; ... As also some few hints and briefe observations on divers pamphlets written lately against me and some of my books, ... / By Thomas Edvvards Minister of the Gospel.; Gangraena. Part 3 Edwards, Thomas, 1599-1647. 1646 (1646) Wing E237; Thomason E368_5; ESTC R201273 294,455 360

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when it should be obeyed may be questioned upon that ground and nothing in Government should be certain but a man may say this Law this Order is null void for how doth it appeare the Universall represented people gave consent or the Representative acted in it from the instructions of the Universall 20. If this Doctrine were true that Magistrates might do nothing but what the greater part of the generality of a Land would have whether many good things would ever have been done that now are and whether in many Kingdoms would ever a Reformation have been effected and whether if the Parliament had gone by the Pole of tagge and ragge would ever Common-Prayer-book Bishops with many other things have been put down which yet I hope the Sectaries dare not say but the House of Commons did well in so doing A Catalogue of some Blasphemies of the Sectaries not mentioned in the First nor Second Parts of Gangraena A Sectarie said That the Prophets in the Old Testament Prophecied two and fifty lyes That in the ninth chapter of the Romans Saint Paul lyed and said he did acknowledge him self to be so to gain some to Christ The same Sectarie being stowed a place of Scripture which were the words of Christ took the book and threw it away and said that was not ordered by the Holy Ghost to be penned but it was the Rogue Printer that did put it in Another Sectary said there is no God or if there be a God the Devill is a God Master Saltmarsh the Sectary preached at Bath that as John Baptist wore a Leathern Girdle so the Doctrin that he preached was Leathern Doctrine A Sectarian Souldier at Bristoll finding fault with something a godly Minister had preached of Christ wondering at their unbeleif this Minister told this Souldier they were Christs words unto whom this Sectarian Souldier replyed Christ spake thus in his darknesse And another time this Minister speaking with the same Sectary about being justified by Christs Righteousnesse this Sectary replyed Christs Righteousnesse was a beggerly Righteousnesse A She-Sectary an Anabaptist said it boastingly again and again That she was every whit as good as Christ no way inferiour to him but equall to him and if she were not so the Scripture was a liar A Relation of some Passages in the Prayers of some Sectaries IT was for certain related to me and to many persons of worth that in June last when the King was with our Brethren of Scotland an Independent prayed publickly to God that God would deliver the King out of the hands of those evill Counsellors in whose hands he now wa● T is written to me in a Letter and testified under the hands of three witnesses that an Independent in a publick Church prayed thus Lord if thou art not pleased to blesse us in the seducing King and trayterous Queen then blesse us in the Prince his Son or the Duke And at another time the same man prayed thus Lord now that the Sword is drawn let it never be sheathed untill it be glutted in the bloud of the cursed Malignants A Great Sectary in London upon occasion of the City Remonstrance prayed as followes of which prayer many Citizens had Copies and I was told it from good hands it was brought in to the Court of Aldermen O Lord thou knowest there is a Remonstrance to go up to the Parliament which is much to thy dishonour and the hurt of thy Saints for Lord thou knowest the Kingdoms of the Earth by right belong unto us thy Saints Suffer not thy Saints any longer to be trampled upon but stand up for thy people and do not suffer the ungodly to go up with this wicked Remonstrance Confound their device and suffer it to take no effect And Lord we thanke thee that thou hast stirred up some of thy Saints with courage already to protest against it we beseech thee stir up more Lord stir up the women that lie in their husbands bo 〈…〉 es and the children to cry unto their parents every one to be helpfull to one another to stay this Remonstrance Lord we will fast and pray unto thee this day to morrow and the next day O Lord hear our prayers and let our cry come unto thee as thou ha●t been mercifull unto us so we beseech thee to continue thy favour and love unto us I was told it also by an understanding godly Minister that this Summer about the time of Lilburns commitment by the House of Lord a great Sectary in one of their Conventicles prayed to this effect O Lord cast down or confound all Monarcks a●d Monarchies and lift up or advance thy servant Lilburne This Minister had it from some who said they were eare witnesses and I desired to speak with them about i● and he promised I should but having not yet spoken with them I do relate it but as a report and not with that confidence as I do things I hear or find written or that I have from godly persons I know who are eare witnesses Some of the Independents and Sectaries use to court God in prayer having as affected straines and strong lines as ever University Preachers used to have in their Sermons at Saint Maries One of them began his prayer Right Honourable Lord God another begins oft-times Immortall God and then makes a stop and pause and then comes on the Se●aphin●s tongues are tip● with thy praises and praying in an affected manner Another Independent spake to God in prayer by way of complaint against the Presbyterians Lord they hate us because we know more of thee then they do but we beseech thee Lord give 〈◊〉 still to know more of thee and let them hate us more if they will A Relation of stories and sundry remarkable Passages co 〈…〉 ng the Sects and Sectaries and amongst others of some Souldiers who are great Sectaries JVly the third 1646. two Citizens honest men related to me this story in the hearing of another Minister and that with a great deal of confidence one of them having la●en in the Town where the fact was committed and having spoken with many Inhabitants about it that summer was a two yeares Captaine Beamant and his company being quartered at Yakesly in Huntingtonshire there being a child in the Town to be baptized some of the souldiers would not suffer the child to be carried to Church to be baptized and the Lieutenant of the Troop drew out a pa●● of the Troop to hinder it guar●ing the Church that they should not bring the child to be baptized and instead of the child being baptized in contempt of Baptisme some of the souldiers got into the Church pissed in the Font and went to a Gentlemans stable in the Town and took out a horse and brought it into the Church and there baptized it and after they had done so such of the Townsmen as spake against them before they went away they did them mischeif and this was
will not be perswaded though never such reason be showed them yea if an Angel from he even or one of the old Prophets arising from the dead should speak against their Opinions and wayes 't is to befeared many of them would yet go on The strong delusion that God hath sent upon many of them to beleeve lies the great interest of divers in regard of preferment and profit the Popes Crown and the Monks bellies the deep ingagements of others to that way by many relations and having mens 〈◊〉 in admiration make it is hard work to convince men though there be never such evidence of Reason I may complaine of the Sectaries of our times as Paraeus doth of some Lutherans and others in his time that things are altogether carried by opinions yea by affections no Arguments no Apologies can take place They that at the will and pleasure of some men do not approve of unprofitable scandalous yea monstrous opinions they are cast off the right hand of fellowship denyed them although they preach Christ sincerely But now in the interim till that Treatise can come forth which I intend shall preoede the Fourth Part of Gangraena I wish the Sectaries to consult Baldwins cases of Conscience who handling that case of Conscience whether the Authors and maintainers of false opinions are to be spoken against by name resolves it affirmatively giving Scriptures and Reasons for it yea showing that false teachers are rather by name to be branded then those who lead only wicked lives and Calvins Tractate against the Libertins giving reasons of his owne practice and answering objections in not only writing against the opinions of the Libertines but naming Coppinus and Quintinus cheife heads of that fastion Secondly a man would wonder at it that the Sectaries should so rage and cry out against me and my Gangraenaes for meddling with matters of fact and nominating men when as long before I put pen to paper in that kind divers of them had in Pamphlets spoken against many Presbyterians by name both godly Ministers and other worthy persons as Master Calamie Doctor Burges Master Prynne c. Master Burton telling in 〈◊〉 Pamphlet a story of me by name a● Colchester but false and raking 〈◊〉 old matters at Bury against Master Calamie in another Pamphlet call'd Truth still Truth though shut out of doores and all before the First Part of Gangrana was printed and indeed the Sectaries have all along both before my Books came forth and 〈◊〉 since upon all occasions yea such of them as have spoken and written most against me for so doing as M. Saltmarsh M. Goodwin M. 〈…〉 on c. writ against the Pres 〈…〉 rians by name and related all 〈…〉 of fact stories of them and in a disgracefull manner and way comparing them with D. Pockling 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and in a scoffing 〈…〉 ing abusive way dealing with them and 〈◊〉 hath not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 only by Independents to Presbyterians but the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 written Books and given us stories and that long before I 〈◊〉 thought of this way of 〈◊〉 Sectaries a● Anti 〈…〉 ians Anabaptists Familists and that by names with all particulars of their doings as well as opinions and of his judgement upon them as Master Wells his History of the Rise Raigne and Downfall of the Antinomians and some others in that kind so that in this I doe but follow them and write after their Copie and I appeale to the ingenuous Reader how they can with any colour blame that as a great evill and wickednesse in me which they account in themselves zeale of Gods glory and a doing God service especially considering that the Sectaries in their naming of Presbyterians and bringing in matters of fact and stories have proceeded in a sixfold manner and way all which in matters of this kind be the things most liable to blame and exception and which I have all along carefully shunned and declined First the Sectaries in writing Books against the Reformation and Presbyterians have not spared to write against and that in a most reproachfull and vild way whole bodies Assemblies Communities and those the highest and greatest as the House of Peers House of Commons the City of London and Common-Councell the Assembly the Kingdome and Generall Assembly of Scotland some scores of such Books written by Sectaries being in all mens hands whereas in my writing against Sectaries I have spoken only against particular persons but to whole Bodies and Societies I have tendred all due respect vindicating them and their power against the Pamphlets and aspersions of Sectaries Secondly the Sectaries in their writings of matters of fact have not only named ordinary persons but persons of the greatest quality and place abusing them by name as divers Members of both Houses the Speakers of both Houses some of the Lords and some of the Commons the Lord Major of London by name but I have all along declined the naming of persons in authority and Magistracie viz. in that way Thirdly the Sectaries in their personall matters and stories of the Presbyterians have still related things manifestly untrue of which there hath been no ground at all as Master Price ' s story of Master Bellamie 〈…〉 ding it unlawfull to sell Prayer Bookes as the Anabaptists in the Lord Majors farewell of the late Lord Major as some stories of Cretensis Master Burroughs and Master Burton of me the contrary unto them being the truth as a passage in Master Dels Epistle Dedicatory to the House of Commons concerning Master Ley of the Assembly most false as a passage in Master Burtons Epistle of his Conformities Deformity of the new Lord Major known to be untrue and so I could go on with instancing in passages in Master Saltmarsh Lilburne and other such Books manifestly untrue and indeed of all the stories and matters of fact the Sectaries have in their Pamphlets in disgrace of the Presbyterians I hardly know one true one whereas the stories related by me of them the most of them are knowne to many and are certain and I have beene all along carefull as by my Reply to Cretensis is evident Fourthly the Sectaries in their matters of fact have fallen upon Presbyterians with old matters many yeeres ago before Presbyterians yea gone back as farre almost as to their childhood as Master Price did to Master Bellamie and Master Burton goes back to Bury ten yeeres before to finde something against Master Calamie and so I might instance in others but I have confined my selfe within three or foure yeeres and to the times since they were Sectaries Fifthly the Sectaries have brought in against Presbyterians matters of bodily infirmities of their complexions and such like as Saltmarsh in his pretended Answer to my Second Part of Gangraena upbraids me saying Your face and complexion showes a most sadly parched burnt and withered spirit but I have forborne that least I should reproach my Maker for he that made me made them Sixthly many
Knollys p. 19. p. 48. 241. M. Peters p. 24. 27. 76 77. 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146. M. Tandy p. 54 57 58. George Young p. 64. M. Dell p. 63 64. 213. 262. M. Randall p. 25. Thomas Collyer p. 27 28 29 51 52. William Bowling and his errours p. 35 36 37. Captain Paul Hobson the Taylor p. 45. 49. John Sims a Shoomaker p. 50. 〈◊〉 ●●ckmoore p. 51. John P●●le p. 54. Floid a Preacher p. 62. Matthewes p. 66. M. Eaton p. 68. 264. M. Saltmarsh p. 72. 75 76. 113 114. Lamb p. 78. 113. Kiffin p. 78. Turner p. 78. M. Kendall p. 79. Thomas Moore p. 80. M. Wainwright p. 81. Heath a Collar maker p. 81. Rice a Tinker p. 81. Field a Bodiesmaker p. 81. Crew a Taylor p. 81. M. Feake p. 81. 147. M. Harrison p. 81. M. Downing p. 81 82. Henry Den p. 85 86 87. M. Beedle of Glocester p. 87. Andrew Debman p. 88. M. Erbury p. 89 90. 250. Sir Worts p. 95. Potter a Smith p. 96. John Durance p. 96 97. M. Larkin p. 97. M. Powell p. 97. Brabson p. 97 98. Cornwell p. 98. M. Blackwood p. 98. M. Batcheler p. 102 103 104 105. Dagnall a Bookseller p. 105. Barre a Weaver p. 105. Hich p. 105. Carter p. 105. M. Bunniard p. 105. M. Postlethwait p. 105. M. Cra●ts p. 105. Oats a Weaver p. 105 106. Tench p. 106. M. Burroughs p. 107 108. 118 119. 164. 180. 181 M. Symonds p. 108. 131. Crab p. 110. Thomas We●b p. 111. Blunt p. 112. Emmes p. 112. Wrighter p. 112. Cretensis p. 114 115 116 117 118 119 120. 159 160 161. M. Cradock p. 131. 163. Richard Overton p. 148 149 150 151 152. John Lilburne p. 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 262 John Price p. 160 161 162. M. Sympson p. 163. Andrew Wicke p. 169 170. Katherine Chidley p. 170 171. John Hall p. 171. Lanceter p. 170 171. M. Symonds p. 241 242. M. Burton p. 242 243 244 245 246 147. Greene the Felt-maker p. 248. Spencer a Coachman p. 249. Gorton p. 249. Lievtenant John Web p. 251 252. 254. Colonell John Hewson p. 252 253. Major Axton p. 253. Margeret North p. 253. A New and further DISCOVERY OF The Errors Heresies Blasphemies and Proceedings of the Sectaries of these times HAving given the Reader an account in my First and Second Parts of Gangraena of many of the Errors Heresies Blasphemies and pernicious Practises of the Sectaries I shall now proceed to adde divers more Errors Blasphemies and insolent unheard of Practices by all which the Reader may observe those words of Paul fulfilled in our times viz. that evill men and Seducers shall wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived and that place speaking of false Teachers and Doctrines for they will increase unto more ungodlinesse and their word will eate as doth a Gangrene and in this Third Part I shall more particularly and largely set downe the corrupt Opinions and Principles that have been vented against the Civill Magistrate and the Government of Common-wealths as also relate more Practises and insolencies of those Sectaries who are Souldiers and belonging to the Army then I did in the former Parts And first of all I shall lay down the erroneous Opinions not enumerated in the former Catalogues which being added to the two hundred and fourteen set down in the First and Second Parts will amount with those in the Appendix too to neer upon three hundred The third Catalogue of the Errors Heresies and strange Opinions of the Sectaries of these times 1. THat God hath a bodily shape and proportion man was made according to the likenesse of God in personall shape and God the Creator beareth the same form in shape and person which man hath This Opinion was held by some Hereticks in the fourth Century first known by the name of Audiani and afterwards call'd Anthropomorphitae Augustine in his Book de Haeresibus ad Quodvult Deum cap. 50. writes of them Audianos quos appellant alii vocant Anthropomorphitas quoniam Deum sibi fingunt cogitatione carnali in similitudinem imaginis corruptibilis hominis Theodoret in his fourth Book Haeret. Fabul writes there was one Audaeus who said God was like to man and gave to God the parts of a man who fell into this Error by his misunderstanding of those places of Scripture which speak of God according to mans understanding Danaeus in his Tractate de Haeresibus fully confutes this Opinion and shows the story of it and in that this Heresie should be now pleaded for in Print it shows us how the Devill in these times revives old Errors dead and buried for many hundred yeers 2. The story of Adams eating the forbidden fruit and of the Serpent is an Allegory by the Serpent in that place is no other then concupiscence and by the fruit of the tree some other eating then the eating of a materiall Apple is understood This also is an Error revived held by David George who lived a hundred yeers ago In David Georges life written in Latin by his sonne in law Nicolaus Blesdikius pag. 161 162. 't is related that by the Serpent entising our first Parents he meant concupiscence and pleads for an allegoricall interpretation of the Serpent because the Historicall Narration of the Serpent as it is laid down by Moses saith David George draws divers absurdities with it 3. In marriage there are no degrees of bloud or affinity forbidden but a man may marry the next of kin to him a brother may marry his Sister an Uncle his Neece a Sonne his Fathers Wife and so in any degrees without exception so that if this liking to marry happen betwixt the nearest of kindred then it is also the most naturall the most lawfull and according to the Primitive purity and practise The maine scope of this booke called Little Nonsuch or certaine new questions is to plead for Incestuous Marriages where the Author sets himselfe to evade all the Scriptures in the Old and New Testament saying T is not marriage simply with Sisters Brothers Wives c. that is forbidden so long as a man keeps wholly to such a one having taken her for wife but the committing fornication with them not being married Now I shall show the falsenesse of this by two Scriptures The first in Leviticus 18. where both in the generall verse 6. and in particular the several degrees are forbidden expressely verse 7. 8 9 10 c. of the Fathers wife of the Sister of the Fathers Sister c. And whereas the Author of that wicked Pamphlet pleads that uncovering of nakednesse is meant of fornication only and not of marriage I Answer The Holy Ghost in that Chapter expounds the uncovering of nakednesse to be marrying verse the 18. and makes taking to wife and uncovering nakednesse to be the same
Babes and Children but now they were all taught of God and needed not that any one should teach them When he had done speaking some of the company stood up and opposed him as not being satisfied in what he had said telling him it was not only Errour but Blasphemy to deny Christ to be God and brought some Scriptures to prove it as in 1 John 5. 7. speaking of the Father Word and Holy Ghost the Apostle saith These Three are One unto which Master Erbury replyed It was not so in the Originall but some of the people re-joyned they knew not the Originall but they beleeved it was so and however they were assured that he was the Sonne of God Master Erbury objected again those words were not in the Greek but put in by some who were against the Arrians and so the meeting broke up the people who met being much offended at him For confutaion of this Heresie and to confirm the people in the Doctrine of the true Faith that Christ is God let them remember 1. these Scriptures the first chap. of the Gospel of John In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God and indeed every word proves him to be God In the beginning was the Word and so in the rest upon which words Beza Calvin Rollock do fully show Christ to be God Essentially and Eternally Calvinus in John 1. 1. v. Ne quis de divina Christi Essentia scrupulus maneat clare assetit esse Deum Rolock in John 1. 1. v. quare sensus hujus propositionis mihi videtur esse● 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 cum esset in principio essetque apud Deum erat quoque ipse Deus Beza in principio id est a principio id est tum quam omnes re● creatae existere inciperent Est autem haec sententia Sermonem non capisse existere quum Deus initium faceret creandi quicquid est conditum Nam inquit Johannes jam tu● existebat Sermo ille quum res creatae con●i coeperunt ac proinde ante omnium illarum rerum principium jam erat Est proprietas ipsius verbi ●●va● observanda quod quidemuni Deo proprie convenit Vide plur Tit. 2. 13. Christ is called the great God and our saviour not a lesser God then God the Father The first of the Heb. from the second to the ninth verse wherein besides that the Sonne is said to be God who hath a throne for ever and ever he is called the brightnesse of the Fathers glory and expresse image of his Person which cannot be affirmed of a creature 1 John 5. 20. John speaking of Jesus Christ saith This is the true God not in name or qualities only like to God as Magistrates and Angels are called gods but the true God as spoken by the Holy Ghost foreseeing these evasions This relative bic must be referred to Christ to the person last spoken of which was Christ so Calvin Relativam 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ad proxim 〈…〉 personam restringi solet and Beza saith postulat pronominis istius propria significatio ut ad Christum hee referatur Deinde peculiare ubique est Johanni per vitam aeternam Christum significare 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Continet igitur hic locus expressum divinitatis Christi testimonium Tamet●● hunc locum eludere Arriani conati sunt illis bodie subscribunt quidam bic tamen insigne hobemus Divinitatis Christi Elogium Calvinus in locum 2. Divine worship belongs to God and to God only as the Scriptures show in many places Maath 4. 10. Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve And therefore man may not worship the greatest Angels Revela 19. 10. Rev. 22. 8 9. and that upon this reason given in those places they must worship God But now the most excellent glorious creatures are commanded to worship Christ the highest Angels as well as men Heb. 1. 6. Let all the Angels of God worship him and men are commanded in the highest manner and way to worship the Sonne as well as the Father Besides we are Baptized in the name of the Sonne as well as of the Father Matt. 28. 19. As for that place in 1 John 5. These Three are One supposing it be not found in the ancientest Greek Copies yet there are so many other places as that in 1 John 5. 20. c. of which there can be no such question which prove Christ to be God But Secondly for this place 1 John 5. 7. these learned Commentators write as followes Calvin viz. That though this whole verse was omitted by some yet Hierome thinks it was done out of malice and that he did willingly embrace this as the Originall because he found it in the best Copies and those most approved Beza saith it seems to him that this verse should be retained and though the Syriack nor old Latine Interpreter doth not read it neither some other Authors Hilarie Augustine c. Yet Hierome reads it and t is in some of the most ancient Books of of Stephen Sed legit Hieronymus legit Erasmus in Britanico codice ex●at in Complutensi editione in nonnullis Stephani nostri veteribus libris A Passage sent in a letter dated June 16. 1646. from a worthy Minister in the West to a Citizen in London to communicate it to me Sir YOu may further acquaint Master Edwards with this Passage I lately met with a worthy Knight who being mer●ily disposed would needs try an experiment upon a Papist how that generation was affected towards Independents therefore riding by a Gentlewomans house and a great Papist not farre from Reading he was resolved to go in and counterfeit himself an Independent this Gentlewoman conceiving him to be such entertained him with as great friendly respects as she could have done any Jesuit in the world she professed she loved the Independents with all her heart and if any men in the world did them right it would be the Independents this the foresaid Gentleman related to me himself July 25. A godly Minister told me that an Anabaptist and Antinomian pleaded against asking forgivenesse of sinnes saying it was no more lawfull to pray for the pardon of sinnes then to pray for our election It was answered there was an expresse command for one none for the other it was replyed where in the Scripture answer was made in the Lords Prayer the Anabaptist answered the Lords Prayer was only for that time A Lieutenant Colonel a man both valiant and godly told me he had heard a Captain who was a Sectary preach that these Wars should not end till all the wicked in the Land on both sides were destroyed and saith he if you observe it t is commonly they that are slaine still it may be now and then one of the godly About the beginning of June last a Parliament man had a letter from a godly Minister in Lynn acquainting him with
Saltmarsh Cre●ensis Walwin Webb and divers other Sectaries who hath been a Man-midwife to bring forth more monsters begotten by the Divell and borne of the Sectaries within this three last years then ever were brought into the light in England by all the former Licensers the Bishops and their Chaplaines for fourescore years he hath licensed Books pleading for all so●ts of Sectaries as Seekers Antinomians Anab●ptists c. as S●●t 〈…〉 sh and Walwins Books and for Antibaptists denying since Christs death all Baptisme by water as W●bb● Book page 6. where is ●id down that I 〈…〉 Baptisme which was water did end at the coming of Christ and that there is no Baptisme by water instituted by Christ yea for Antiscripturists Arians Anitrinitar●ans Questionists and all Blasphemers as is apparent by his licensing that late wicked Pamphlet call'd Some modest and humble Queries concerning a printed paper Intituled an Ordinance presented to the Honourable House of Commons c. where if the Reader do but compare the former part of that Ordinance in what cases only that Ordinance inflicts death viz. upon the wilfull and obstinate publishers of such damnable Heresies and Blasphemies with the second Quere made upon that Ordinance whether it be agreeable to the mind of Christ for men to inflict the heavie censure of death upon their Brethren for holding forth such Doctrines or opinions in Religion suppose contrary to admonition which for ought the Inflicters know except they make themselves infallible may be the sacred truths of God he must needs find thus much pleaded for that therefore such blasphemies and Heresies contained in the Ordinance yea Atheisme it self for that is in the Ordinance that God is may not be punished with death because for ought any man knowes they may be the ●acred truths of God and the maintainers and publishers of them our Brethren So that at once in this Quere upon the Ordinance all the fundamentalls of Christian Religion are overthrown and such Doctrines and opinions as are contrary unto them for ought any man knowes except he make himself in●allible may be the sacred truths of God yea grosse Scepticisme and Atheisme is brought into the Church This Master Bachiler hath Licensed severall Pamphlets for a Toleration yea no● only for a limited bounded Toleration of some Sects and opinions as suppose Anabaptists Independents but for a Universall g●nerall Toleration of all consciences and opinions as may be seen in Walwins Books licensed by him yea he hath licensed unlice 〈…〉 sed Books printed before he was borne as a Pamphlet entituled Religious Peace made by one Leonard Busher and printed 1614. wherein there is a pleading for a Toleration of Papists Jewes ●very person or persons differing in Religion and that it may be lawfull for them to write dispute confer print and publish any matter touching Religion either for or against whomsoever And that the wickednesse of Master Bachiler the Independent may the more appear I desire the Reader to observe in his licensing this and some other Books these following particulars First He gives not a bare Imprimatur to his Book of Bushers but gives his Imprimatur with a speciall Recommendation in these words This usefull Treatise entituled Religious Peace long since presented by a Citizen of London to King James and the High Court of Parliament then sitting I allow to be reprinted and so to some of Saltmarshes Books Smoake in the Temple Groanes for Liberty Reasons for Vnity Love and Peace c. We have Imprimaturs with speciall approbations and discourses of the lovelinesse exellenty sweetnesse glory shining in them Secondly in the reprinting of this Book for generall Toleration call'd Religious Peace Master Bachiler made some materiall alterations and writ in the margins of such places in the Book where some speciall passages were for Toleration that they should be printed in a great letter differing from the letter in which the body of the Book was printed for that end no doubt that the Reader might better observe them and this I was told from a person of some quality and a Scholler who saw the Originall Book wherein such alterations were made and told me they were the same hand with that whi●h gave License to the Book I shall give the Reader an instance or two and no more whereas Bushers Copie page 16 is thus Therefore I humbly desire his Majestie and Parliament with all godly carefulnesse to consider that 't is not possible that the Church of Rome called Catholick or those that ate descended of her and have received their Faith and Discipline from her ever was or could be the Apostolick Church call'd Primitive Church or shee that is descended from her Master Bacheler changes it from Faith and Discipline into Ministery and Ordination reading it thus and have received their Ministery and Ordination from her That passage in the old Edition page 11. printed in the same letter the whole Book is viz. Therefore as the Papist when they complaine of the Turks and Pagans for their bloody persecution do therein condemne themselves because they are found to do the same yea worse for 't is a greater tyrannie for one Christian to force and kill another then for Turks and Pagans to kill a Christian for that is no such great wonder seeing it is a Paganish part who have no better knowledge but Christians should have better knowledge and more mercy then to play the Pagans against Christians is in this new Edition printed in a different character a greater letter neither is this the only Book wherein 't is discovered John Bachiler treads in the steps of some Licensers who went before him being acquainted with Index Expurgatorius but in Webbs Book he altered and changed as in the second part of Gangraena I at large have shewed The man hath justified and acquitted the former Licensers Doctor Baker Doctor Bray Doctor Heyward Doctor Weeks and the rest of that race who in the point of licensing were Saints to him who hath licensed such books and things that I am confident none of them durst have done for feare the people would have risen up and torne them in peeces and certainly the people would never have borne with such books in the Bishops dayes besides should any man before the sitting of this Parliament have writ or licensed such Books of which good store have been both writ and licensed within this three last years that man or men whoever they had been had without all question been first questioned and proceeded against by this Parliament of all men This Bachiler is such a desperate Licenser that nothing now in that kind can stick with him having swallowed down those wicked Queries upon the Ordinance against Heresies and Blasphemies and I am afraid that if the Devill himselfe should make a book and give it the Title A plea for liberty of conscience with certaine Reasons against Persecution for Religion and bring it to Mr. Bachiler hee would license it and
or any of the money Upon this he went to a Counsellor at Law one Mr. W. related his case desiring his councell in it He advised him to make no words of it say nothing but at the Sessions endite him and get a Warrant of a Suddain before he could take councell to fetch him away and it may be being so surprised he would pay him the money rather then stand it out to answer it at the Sessions The Citizen followed his advise when the Sessions came had a bill drawn against him the Atturney who had seen the Bond witnessed there was such a speciall tye the Bill was found and a Warrant sent out for to attach him the Officer serving it and threatning presently to carry him away thereupon this Sectary confessed his evill he entreated his mercy that he would not shame him publikely it should be a warning to him for ever after and so he paying the money the man prosecuted him no further A Relation of some remarkeable Passages of divers Sectaries and of the Contents of severall Letters written up here to London from good hands conc●rning them THere is one Mr. Knollys an Anabaptist spoken of in my first part of Gangraena and in this third part page 48. 49. a Letter of his is printed this man preaches up and down in severall Churches in London and Southwark● and that with all fiercenesse against Childrens Baptisme and against our Ministers as being Antichristian and having no call to baptize and among other places where he hath preached lately he preached this Novemb. the 15. at Georges Church in Butolph-lane in the afternoone on these words He that beleeveth and is baptized shall be saved where after he had spoken of beleeving in the latter part of his Sermon comming to speak of baptizing he used these words I have spoken to you of the first part of the Gospell believing I must be faithfull and speak to you of the second viz. baptizing and of that there is as great a necessity as believing and therefore I advise and charge all you who believe to be baptized and whereas it may be you will object you are baptized already I answer that is a lye indeed you were rantized but not baptized and that too was into the name of your God-fathers which was blasphemy and not into the name of the Father Sonne and Holy Ghost besides they who did it had nothing to do with Baptisme as being no Ministers but Antichristian and whereas heretofore these Ministers of the Church of England rantized into the name of their Godfathers now to mend the matter they do it into the name of their Fathers There is one Mr. Symonds a great Sectarie Mr. Cradocks Colleague who came to London since the wars and preached at little Alhallowes Thames-street and at the Tower where I have been informed from godly understanding men as well Ministers as others that he hath preached severall strange things as for a Toleration and liberty for all men to worship God according to their consciences and in favour of Antipaedobaptisme and so preaching once at Andrewes Vndershaf● for Mr. Goodwin he preached high strains of Antinomianisme as that Christ was a legall Preacher and liv'd in a dark time and so preached the Law but afterwards the Gospel came to be preached and preaching at Laurence Pountneys summer was twelvemoneth on the day of thanksgiving for taking of Sherborn Castle he spake of the great Victories the Saints had obtained for us viz. the Independents and yet now the Parliament was making Lawes against these Saints with other things to that purpose and as at London he hath preached thus so since he left London this last Summer he preached at Bath before the Generall strange stuffe as I have been told from understanding men who heard him viz. against Presbytery saying it was a limb of Antichrist pleading for liberty of conscience and for those who would not have their children baptized till they came to years of understanding and for Weavers and ignorant mechanicks preaching and speaking of these mens guifts and having the spirit before learned men and men bred at Universities with a great deale of this stuffe insomuch that Mr. Bode● Minister of the Bath as I was informed confuted his Sermon the next Lords day and spake against it insomuch that ●ome of the Independent Souldiers as C. B. c. ●lung out of the Church in the midst of the Sermon and would not heare him out and truly 't is a sad thing that Sir Thomas Fairfax that valiant and well-affected Gentleman should have such kind of Chaplains and Preachers upon all occasions to preach before him as Mr. Dell Mr. Saltmarsh Mr. Peters Mr. Cradock M. Symonds M. William Sedgwick and such like and I have spoken the more of this Mr. Symonds because I hear he is nominated for one of the Itinerary Preachers of VVales that so the Country and Ministers may be ware of him where he comes and that the Assembly when he comes to be approved of may doe their duties and not let him passe so easily as they did Mr. Cradock There is Mr. Burton of London a great Independent who hath these five last years written many wild and weak Pamphlets beginning with his Pr●testation Protested and ending with his Conformities Deformitie in which Pamphlets the poore man hath laid down many grounds of Donatisme and pure Brownisme yea of Libertinisme and of a generall Toleration of all Religions and hath laid about him striking all who have come neere him without feare or wit whether whole Assemblies and Societies or particular persons he hath cast durt in the face of the Church of Scotland and their generall Assembly our Assembly this famous City of London and the Honourable Court of Common Councell the Ministers of Sion Colledge particular Ministers M. Calamie my selfe and others nay he hath not spared his Brother Prynne his Brother Bastwick his good old friend M. Vicars and in all these five years among all the Books he hath put forth notwithstanding all the damnable Hereticks and Blasphemers among us hath not had the heart to speak one word for God against them which gives too just ground for the world to thinke M. Burtons former oppositions of Arminianisme Popery c. was not out of zeale for God and his truth and hatred of those errours but out of discontent and spleen against the Bishops who had crossed him in his hopes of preferment For if it had been out of zeale against the errours and not out of anger against the men how could he thus patiently beare all the injuries and dishonours of Christ and his truth done by other men even a hundred times worse then before Did Mr. Burton know what some of his wisest Brethren have said and do say of his Books he would give over writing as that his writings are weake and do more hurt then good would to God he would give over his writing Shall I tell M. Burton what Mr. Nye