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A61521 An answer to Mr. Cressy's Epistle apologetical to a person of honour touching his vindication of Dr. Stillingfleet / by Edw. Stillingfleet. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699.; Clarendon, Edward Hyde, Earl of, 1609-1674. 1675 (1675) Wing S5556; ESTC R12159 241,640 564

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