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A67180 The jus divinum of presbyterie. Or, A treatise evidently proving by Scripture; all true ministers or embassadours of the Gospell to be rightly called divines or, Jure divino. Writer, Clement, fl. 1627-1658. 1646 (1646) Wing W3724; ESTC R220188 18,132 42

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c. which proves that our Assembly of Presbiters have the like Answ No more then it proves an Assembly of Episcopall Anabaptisticall Arminian or Arrian Presbyters have Divine Right nor more then it proves the Councell of Trent had Divine Right Objection Ours are godly Orthodoxe Divines the other an Hereticks Idolaters c. Answer Who but themselves and such onely as are their judgement will say so The same will each of the other respectively say of themselves and the contrary of their opposites But in this case man witnesse and as Christ sayes his own witnesse himself is not true Joh. 5. 31. 33. 35. Objection But thefe and other Texts in the New Testament do give Divine Right and power now to some to be Ministers of the Gospell Answer No more then the Book of the Prophesie of Jonah gives authority to some to preach to Nineveh Yet forty dayes and Nineveh shall be destroyed nor no more then the History of the Book of Kings gives authority to any to be Kings nor no more then the History of the Scribes and Pharises of the chief Captain of the Centurion or of Demetrius the Silver-Smith mentioned in the Acts of the Apostles gives authority to any to be such For as the Ministry of the Gospell is a Divine Office so it must necessarily be derived from a Divine power and bring with it suitable evidence without which the recitall in Scripture of such an Office proves no more one man then every man to be in that Office and no more then the recitall in Scripture of the Office of a King or chief Captain c. proves a man to be such without producing a lawfull Title and suitable evidence Objection True Ministers of the Gospell had Divine right and power whence then had they it if not from Scripture Answer They had it from Heaven and were therefore commanded to stay untill they were indued therewith from on high Luk. 24. 49. which was with the power of the Holy Ghost comming down upon them Acts 1. 8. Objection But Paul and Timothy with divers other are mentioned in Scripture to be true Ministers of the Gospell and to have Divine power yet received it not from on high as the former did Answer Though they received it not so immediately as the former did which first received it yet they received it from on High as well as they by the laying on of the hands of the Presbyters or true Ministers so Paul by the hands of Ananias Acts 9. 17. and Timothy by the hands of Paul 2 Tim. 1. 6. Yea the truth is all the Disciples and Believerr were indued with Divine Rights and power more or lesse for by the hands of Peter and John the Believers at Samaria both men and women received the Holy Ghost Acts 8. 12. 17. Likewise by the hands of Paul the Twelve Disciples at Ephesus received the Holy Ghost and spake with tongues and prophesied Acts 19. 1. 6 7. And as all the members of the Church were severally indued with these gifts of the spirit so they were to administer and do service accordingly As is evident by Rom. 12. 6 7. 1 Cor. 12. 27 28. Ephes 4. 11. So then it 's most apparent that the laying on of hands was no vain and fruitlesse ceremony as now it is Objection To what end then were the Books of the New Testament first writ if not for a ground and rise of true Ministers and Churches Answer They were writ for farther information and direction to true Ministers and Churches then in being and to whom also they were for the most part if not altogether sent but not to erect or impower any to become such These things considered I Quere Whether it be not justice reason and honesty for our Learned Clergy in pitie to their Lay and unlearned brethren from whom they and their predecessors have received such vast Revenews time out of minde for little or nothing either to give satisfaction in the premises or else for ever henceforth to forbear not onely their proud aspiring desires and endeavours of Domination over them but also to leave off their vile and reproachfull tearmes of Obloquie as of Sectaries Schismaticks Hereticks c. which usually from * VVitnesse Edwards his Book intituled Gangraena wherein the malitious Authour hath much discovered his own Orthodox ignorance impudence and folly Presse Pulpit they cast upon others farre more worthy then themselves Neverthelesse if after so many seven yeares servitude under our Ecclesiasticall Task-masters there be any yet so sottish who will not go free but will still vassalize themselves their judgments and consciences to any of that kinde Then by my consent let such have their ears bor'd thorow with an Awl and be made slaves for ever according to the Law Lev. 21. 6. Deut. 15. 17. But let the rest be uninslaved and go free according to right reason justice and their native priviledges especially they hauing redeem'd them at so deer a rate even to the eminent hazard of the totall vassallizing both of themselves and theirs for ever And yet notwithstanding all that hath been said I do not intend or suppose that pious and good men may not make a holy and comfortable use of the Scriptures No rather I earnestly perswade all men to the diligent reading thereof and meditation thereupon that so their hearts and mindes may be filled with the knowledge of the love of God to mankinde aboundantly there manifested and in the strength thereof to resolve to walk as becommeth true and reall Christianitie and no longer to conform themselves according to the fashion of this world under the meer name of Christians nor content themselves any longer with meer formalities and in drawing near to God with lip-service onely whilest their hearts run after covetousnesse or the vanities of this life as do the Gentiles but to live righteously soberly and godly in this present world that so their light may shine before men who seeing their good works may glorifie our Father which is in heaven And as any one shall increase in necessary and usefull knowledge I conceive it 's his duty to labour the strengthening of others and to beget the same knowledge in them And since no man commeth now with Divine authority and infallible demonstration and power to convince men as aforesaid let us all lay aside all peremptory insisting upon obscure and long controverted arguments all distinction of Clergy and Laity all anger and bitternesse all evill speaking judging and condemning one the other about difference of opinion and let our zeal be expressed who shall be most loving and tender-hearted and who shall exceed in doing most good each to other My aim is so far from discouaaging any one in making a right use of the Scriptures that I rather shew that all men have a like interest in the use thereof and a possibility to understand them as well and as truly as those who hitherto would be supposed to be by Divine Commission Ministers of Christ or Clergy to remove which long rooted Errour is my speciall work and to make known that any man of what calling or quality soever may lawfully publish or propose whatsoever he hath conceived from Scripture to the consideration of every particular mans understanding which is each mans judge other judge in these matters I finde none nor can I set limits to any mans understanding onely I advise since our condition herein is as it is That all things be duly and seriously weighed and that we be fully perswaded in our own mindes from an experimentall knowledge of the benefit and use of any thing we have a minde to propose or publish before we propose or publish the same and that all things be done without breach of love a rule easie to be understood and without breach of that good order which in discretion and upon mature deliberation may be agreed upon Let no man be startled for want of Learning as fearing he cannot understand the Scriptures aright though he have them in his own mother tongue because he understands not the Originall Languages wherein they were first written Objections of this Nature proceed from such as would hold captive the unlearned under the Superstitious Bond of a Romish necessity of an infallible Iuterpreter and dependance upon the Clergy and learned men but this way of theirs is palpable evill it would far better become those that say there are many errors in translations to amend them if they are able but if they are not able why boast they themselves above others if they can and will not mend them it is worse then if they were unable to mend them When they have said all they can to scarce people from trusting to their own judgements and understands of Scripture by the meer help of Translations they must confesse that the most skilful'st amongst them cannot prove they ever have had a sight of that which properly may be called an Originall and that they understand those things they have but imperfectly and are as little infallible as any others For there have alwayes been and still are more different and opposite judgements between the most learned and greatest Schollers then between any sort of men whatsoever which could not be if by all their Schollership they could attain to an infallibilitie or certainty of that which they pretend to know And therefore like true Christians they should rather rejoyce to observe in plain people so generall a desire after knowledge in the search of Scripture so great a love to Christian vertue and encourage them to a faithfull perseverance therein FINIS