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A38580	Nor truth, nor error, nor day, nor night, but in the evening there shall be light, Zach. 14. 6, 7 being the relation of a publike discourse in Maries Church at Oxford between Mr. Cheynel and Mr. Erbery January 11, 1646.	Erbery, William, 1604-1654.; Cheynell, Francis, 1608-1665.	1647 (1647)	Wing E3234; ESTC R26470	19,304	31

made known to the sons of men This is plainly foretold in the old Prophets and in that last Prophet of the New Testament who speaking of things to come in the apostacy and dayes of Antichrist saith That he saw a book written within and on the backside sealed with seven seals and no man in heaven or earth nor under the earth was able to open the book nor to look thereon Revel. 5. 1 3. This Book is the mystery of Christ the Word of God and the Book of God in whom both the will and good Will of God are written and by whom all the counsels decrees and deep things of God are declared the mysteries of heaven and all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hid in him yet manifested as I said to the Apostles and Prophets and primitive Saints But the Book was since sealed and that with seven seals that is perfectly sealed and sealed from the seven Churches that is from all the Churches comprised under the number of seven for the seven seals hath reference to those seven Churches now no Church yea no man in heaven or earth or under the earth none in Church-fellowship or not in fellowship no man of never so high apprehension or deep discoveries of spiritual things could open or read the Book or look thereon that 's more not look thereon that is since the apostacy no man hath had scarce an outward knowledge not a knowledge of the mystery of Christ in the Letter much less in the Spirit not seen what was written without much less within This the old Prophets spake by the Spirit also Isai. 8 16 17 Binde up the Testimony seal the Law among my Disciples The Testimony is the Book the Word in the Letter the Law is the Spirit the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ the mystery of Christ both in the Letter and Spirit of life were bound and sealed and that from the Disciples of Christ and therefore as John wept so Isaiah waits for him who hides his face from the house of Jacob and looks for him that is for Christ in whose face the glory of God shines that was hid from the whole Church the house of Jacob So Isaiah 29. 10 11. The vision of all is become as a Book that is sealed that neither learned nor unlearned could read it Neither Prophet nor Ruler nor Seer no Prophet in the Church no Ruling Elder nor the most seeing spiritual Member of the Church could see it to the Mystery nor look thereon yea the v●sion of all nothing was seen not in the Spirit scarce in the Letter the Reason is given Verse 13. Because the fear of me is taught by the precepts of men that is the knowledge and worship of Christ was taught by mens traditions forms framed by old Creeds and Councels new Catechisms and Confessions of Churches as if the Scriptures and Spirit were not sufficient to teach men all the knowledge of God and Christ clear enough therefore God proceeds to do a marvellous work and wonder The wisdome of their wise men shall perish and the understanding of the prudent shall be hid that both Fathers Doctors and Divines could not read the Book nor look thereon yet there is a promise Verse 18. That in that day the ears of the deaf shall hear the words of the Book They that erred in spirit shall come to understanding and they that murmured shall loarn doctrine Verse 24. Seventhly That Book which was sealed before shall be open again and so it is Revel. 10. 1 2. There the little Book is open The mystery of Christ in us is called a little Book in opposition to those huge Tomes and mighty Volumes of Fathers Councels and Commentators Treatises c. which have been all the dayes of Antichrist But in the day of Christ when Christ shall appear in the Saints then shall the Mystery be but a little Book ' ti● no more then God manifest in mans flesh if a man could manifest this Mystery to the World as the Apostles could there would be an end of the Church controversie this day for without controversie great is the mystery of godlinesse God manifest in flesh c. But this is that I would say That the mystery of God shall be more gloriously revealed in the last times after Antichrists destruction and deliverance of the Saints from the apostacy then ever it was by the Apostles themselves at first This I have shewn more fully in our private speakings and shall if called to give a publike account But now it is enough that when the seventh Angel begins to sound the mystery of God shall be finished as he hath declared by his servants the Prophets Revel. 10. 7. What is the mystery of God but the man Christ Jesus how that man is God how God is manifest in mans flesh this hath been declared by the Prophets more fully then in the writings of the Apostles excepting John and he gives but some hints of that high and heavenly Mystery which the Scriptures of the Prophets do more gloriously speak out by whom the Mystery is revealed though not to them Rom. 16. 27. 1 Pet. 1. 13. compared And as the Prophets did minister not to themselves but to the Apostles so the Apostles do minister many things of the mystery of Christ not to themselves but to us in these last times to whom the mystery of God shall be fulfilled which was to them revealed but in part Revel. 10. 7. I date not say that any thing of this Mystery is revealed to me nor yet dare I deny the teachings of God But what I have taught as I would no man to trust me so I wish all men to try me and to hold fast that which is good This is all that I know of this yet if yet I know any thing First That the Son and the Saints make one perfect man and that the fulness of the Godhead dwells in both in the same measure though not in manifestation Secondly That the fulness of the Godhead shall be manifested in the flesh of the Saints as in the flesh of the Son These two things which others see as Heresie and Blasphemy seems to me as Truths both in Scriptures and by that Spirit which speaks in me If any man can convince me by proofs or power of Argument I shall submit and be silent But because I am forcibly commanded and called forth to speak in publike I shall according to the power of God in me do these two things First Prove the Doctrines by plain Scriptures Secondly Then propound my Arguments from thence My proofs for the first are from Christ and his Apostles both to me teach this one thing viz. That the fulness of the Godhead dwells in the Saints as in the Son in the same measure though not in the same manifestation he being in this last sense Anointed above his fellows and God manifest in flesh But seeing we are his Brethren we

Nor Truth nor Error Nor Day nor Night But in the Evening There shall be Light ZACH. 14. 6 7. BEING The Relation of a PUBLIKE DISCOURSE IN Maries Church at OXFORD BETWEEN Mr. Cheynel and Mr. Erbery January 11. 1646. Printed in the Yeer 1647. TO THE READER WHen the little Book was open in the hand of the Angel the Angel cryed as when a Lion roareth and seven thunders uttered their voices c. That is when there was a powerful appearance of the Mystery of Christ when the Mystery of God which before was sealed Revel. 5. but afterwards to be finished and fully manifested began to be opened and that so powerfully even to the terror of the Christian world and of the Churches also for the seven thunders respect the seven Churches that 's all the Christian Churches under Antichristian Apostacy I say when the little Book began to be open John began to write c. that 's our weakness when any light breaks forth in us any new discovery of Truth be made out to us by the teachings of God in us we begin presently to be Teachers of men to write to publish it in Pulpit and Print or in our private Teachings This was Johns weakness also who was therefore commanded to seal those sayings and write them not till he had eaten the Book and better digested that heavenly secret The Mystery of God and of Christ afterward he was to Preach it and Prophesie to Nations Tongues People and Kings This is another Mystery in the next Chapter where that prophesying begins Those two witnesses who prophesie in sackcloth signifie a few Saints who yet make a full witness witnessing Christ in Spirit and against the spirit of Antichrist These are the two Olive trees as having their teachings immediately from God Zach. 4. 11 12. And these are the two Candlesticks the true Church in Spirit for the seven Candlesticks were faln and removed out of their place through the Apostacy but these two witnesses have the Testimony of Jesus which is the Spirit of prophecy Revel. 19. 10. Which Spirit is that fire going out of their mouth devouring their adversaries and that spirit of Antichrist appearing in several forms the Dragon the first beast second beast Babylon the great whore all is but the various appearances of that one spirit of Antichrist in the Christian Church for there Antichrists seat ever was and is set up this day though in a more glorious form which is but the flesh of the whore whose flesh is now fairer and her forms her array more fine in scarlet c. Revel. 16. 4. Yet these two witnesses in sackcloth who were also in former ages these few poor persecuted Saints still stand up burning her flesh with fire and by their prophesying though in silence plague men by shutting Heaven that the rain or waters from above the Teachings of God fall not on their fellowships and turning their waters into blood their formal worships and teachings of men from below into the blood of a dead man Revel. 16. 3 4. And all this those two witnesses do as oft as they will which needs must be none else but Christ in them God in their flesh coming forth in power and Spirit from them plaguing and tormenting them which dwell on earth i. e. earthly Christians and Churches also For this the two witnesses suffer their sufferings being shadowed forth by that sackcloth and bitterness of the Book in their belly yet all this is but the sufferings of their flesh and filth of it as 't were in the belly but yet they suffer with Christ and Christ suffers in them for they are slain where our Lord was crucified that 's spiritually fleshly Jerusalem Christian carnal Churches where spiritual Saints and Christ in Spirit is still slain and crucified but after three dayes and a half that 's a little longer then Christ in flesh lay buried the spirit of life enters into those dead and unburied witnesses who rise with Christ and Christ riseth in them yea they ascend in glory a greater glory at least in the Letter then Christ ascended for none but Disciples and friends were witnesses of his Resurrection and saw him ascend but the ascension of the Saints their very enemies shall behold The sum of all is this That which this man writes he writes not as a clear Truth to publish to the world not to put off his Earth that heap of Heresie and Blasphemy cast upon him by enemies to bury his name and make it rot nay he is content to lie unburied yet to the loathing of his person that the people who dwell on earth may look on rejoyce and glory over his dead C●●cass lying in the streets of the great City 'T is well if Truth shall rise in them that Read Farewell The Relation of a publike Discourse and Dispute at OXFORD January 11. between Mr. Cheynel and Mr. Erbery who spake thus CHristian friends and fellow Souldiers and worthy Schollars also I am your servant I am called this day to come here in publike from my private walkings not by my desire or seeking but as sought out and drawn forth by a twofold cord a publike charge and a private challenge The charge was publikely given out in a Pulpit of Heresie and Blasphemy against me the challenge was privately sent unto me by word and writing also in a Letter from Master Cheynel that I should give him a meeting in the Schools or some meeting place in the University the place appointed is Maries Church where I now present my self to wait on you all and to answer what shall be objected or to desire a satisfactory Answer to this my Quere I am questioned for That which I have in private I also profess in publike whatever I spake was not spoken as a Minister by outward call though twice I was made one nor as a guifted man knowing Christ though once I was accounted some body by others and by my self also but now I am nothing know nothing and let all men know so of me that I can neither see nor speak as Ministers or gifted men should with any clearness in my self or conviction to others but inquiring onely and seeking the Lord our God and David our King This is that condition the Church shall be brought unto into a Wilderness where no path nor company shall be to walk with but being left alone the Saints shall be all set in a seeking way as the Prophets have foretold That about Babylons destructions and their deliverance from thence Judah and Israel those who were a divided Kingdom in Church-fellowships shall come together in one to seek the Lord their God and the way to Zion that i● not the way to Church as the Churches this day are divided about by a confused preposterous way seeking that first which should be last as if they had found the knowledge of the Lord