rather enforceth them to the vttermost and oftentimes further then the partie himself doth or perhaps could doe And he was of this minde that he sayde he would not lett while he liued wheresoeuer he perceaued his aduersarie to say well or himselfe to haue sayd otherwise indifferently for both to say and declare the truth And therefore himselfe after the printing finding the bookes diuulged and commonly read of the Debellation of Salem and Bizanze albeit manie had read the place and found no faulte therein yet he finding afterwards that he mistooke certaine wordes of the Pacifyer without anie man's controulement meerely of himselfe reformed them The like he counselled his learned friends especially Erasmus to doe and to retract manie things that he had written whose counsell wherein he had a notable president in the worthie Doctour S. Augustine yf Erasmus had followed I trowe his bookes would haue bene better liked of by posteritie which perchance shall be fayne either vtterly to abolish some of his workes or at least to redresse and reforme them Here is now further to be considered in his writings that he neuer hunted after praise or vayne glorie nor anie vile and filthie gaine or commoditie yea so that enuenomed and poysoned bookes might be once suppressed abolished he wished his owne on a light and fayre fyre Yet did the Euangelicall bretheren after he had abandoned the office of Lo Chancellour as they otherwise spread and writt manie vaine and false rumours to the aduancement of their new Gospel and oppressing of the Catholike lay to his charge in their bookes that he was partiall to the Clergie and for his bookes receaued a great masse of monie of the sayd Clergie And Tindall and diuerse others of the good bretheren affirmed that they wist well that Sir THOMAS MORE was not lesse worth in monie plate and other moueables then twentie thousand markes but it was found farre otherwise when his house was searched after he was committed to the Tower where a while he had some competent libertie but after on a suddaine he was shutt vp very close at which time he feared there would be a new more narrower search in all his houses because his minde gaue him that folkes thought he was not so poore as it appeared in the search but he tolde his daughter Mris Rooper that it would be but a sporte to them that knew the truth of his pouertie vnlesse they should finde out his wiue's gay gyrdle and her goulde beades The like pouertie of anie man that had continued so long a Chancellour with the king and had borne so manie great offices hath I trowe seldome bene founde in anie lay man before and much lesse since his time As for his partialitie to the Clergie sauing the reuerence due to the sacred Order of priests by whome we are made Christian men in Baptisme and by whome we receaue the other holie Sacraments there was none in him and that they felt that were naught of the Clergie that had so little fauour at his hands that there was no man that anie medling had with them into whose hands they were more loath to come then into his but for fees annuities or other rewardes or anie commoditie that should encline him to be euer propēse partiall to the Clergie none cā be shewed First touching anie fees he had to his liuing after that he had left the Chaūcellourship he had not one groate grāted him since he first wrote or begāne to write the Dialogues that was the first booke that euer he wrote in matters of religion And as for all the lands and fees he had besides those of the king's guift was not nor should be during his mother in lawe's life who liued after he relinquished the office of Chaūcellourship worth yearely the sūme of 100. pound thereof had he some by his wife some left by his father some he purchased and some fees had he of Temporall men so may euerie man soundly guesse that he had no greate parte of his liuing of the Clergie to make him partiall to them Now touching rewardes or lucre which rose to him by his writing for which good Father Tindall sayd he wrote his bookes and not for anie affection he bare to the Clergie no more then Iudas betrayed Christ for anie fauour he bare to the Bishopps Scribes and Pharisies it is a most shamefull lye and slaunder as may appeare by his refusall of the 4. or 5. thousand pound offered him by the Clergie Concerning Tindall's false translation of the New Testament first it is to be considered as these good bretheren partely denye the very Text it selfe and whole bookes of the sacred Scripture as the booke of the Machabies and certaine others and Luther S. Iames's Epistle also and as they adulterate and commaculate and corrupt the whole Corps of the same with their wrong and false expositions farre disagreeing from the Comment of the ancient Fathers and Doctours and from the fayth of the whole Catholike Church So haue they for the aduancing and furthering of the sayd heresies of a sett purpose peruerted mistranslated the sayd holie Scripture And after such shamefull sorte that amōgst other their mischieuous practises whereas in the Latine Epistle of S. Paul is read in the olde translation fornicarij in the new they haue Sacerdotes that is priests for the good deuotion they beare to the sacred Order of Priesthood And their patriarche Luther with his translation of the sayd holie Scripture into the Dutch toung hath wonderfully depraued corrupted and defiled it as we could by diuerse proofes easily shewe whome his good schollar Tindall in his English translatiō doth matche or rather passe wherein he turneth the word Church into Congregation Priest into Senior or elder which word Congregation absolutely of itselfe as Tindall doth vse it doth no more signifye the Congregation of Christiā men then a fayre flocke of vnchristian geese neither this word Presbyter for Elder signifyeth any whitt more a Priest then an eldersticke manie other partes of his Translation are sutable to this as where in spight of Christ's and his holie Saints images he turneth Idolls into Images and for the like purpose of setting forth his heresie Charitie into Loue Grace into Fauour Confession into repentance and such like for which as also for diuerse of his false faythlesse hereticall assertions as well that the Apostles left nothing vnwritten that is of necessitie to be belieued That the Church may erre in matter of Fayth That the Church is only of chosen elects Touching the manner and order of our election Touching his wicked and detestable opinion against the free wil of man Touching his fond and foolish paradoxes of the elect though they doe abhominable haynous actes yet they doe not sinne and that the elect that doth once hartily repent can sinne no more he doth so substantially pleasantly confute and ouerthrowe Tindall that yf these men
did when Charles the Fift landed in England to see Queene Catherine his aunte And whensoeuer he had occasion either in England or beyond the sea to visite anie vniuersitie he would not only be present at their readings and disputations but would also learnedly dispute there amongst them himself to the great admiration of all the Auditorie for his skill in all sciences But when at Brugges in Flanders an arrogant fellow had sett vp a Thesis that he would answer whatsoeuer question could be propounded vnto him in anie art whatsoeuer Sir THOMAS made this question to be putt vp for him to answer thereto whether Aueria capta in Withernamia sunt irreplegebilia adding that there was one of the English Embassadours retinue that would dispute with him thereof This Thraso or Braggadocio not so much as vnderstanding those tearmes of our Common Law knew not what to answer to it and so he was made a laughing stocke to the whole Cittie for his presumptuous bragging 3. Now as he was vngrateful to vaine proude men so was he an intire and speciall good friend to all the learned men in Christendome and first he affected especially that famous man Cuthbert Tunstall lately Bishopp of London and then of Durham of whome Sir THOMAS speaketh in his epitaphe made by himself whilst he was in good health and state thus Then whome the whole world hath not a man more learned wise or better He speaketh also of him in his Vtopia thus The King sent me Embassadour into Flanders as a Collegue to that excellent person Cuthbert Tunstall vvhome lately he hath chosen to the congratulation of all men his Maister of the Rovvles of vvhose singular praises I vvill not speake for that I feare I should be suspected because he is so deare a friend vnto me but for that his vertues and learning are greater then I can expresse and also more knovven then that I should neede to goe about to declare them except I vvould seeme to sett a torche to lighten the sunne In this embassage manie things delighted me much first the long and neuer interrupted familiaritie vvhich I had vvith Tunstall then vvhome as there is none more learned so also no man more graue in his life and manners no man more pleasant in his manner of carriage and conuersation He wrote vnto him diuerse letters which may testifye what intire-friendshipp there was betweene these two excellēt men as this Although euerie letter vvhich I receaue frō you most vvorthie friend is verie gratefull vnto me yet that vvhich you vvrote last vvas most vvellcome for that besides the other commendations vvhich the rest of your letters deserue in respect of their eloquence and the friendshipp they professe tovvards me these last of yours yeelde a peculiar grace for that they containe your peculiar testimonie I vvould it vvere as true as it is fauourable of my Common Wealth I requested my friend Erasmus that he vvould explane to you the matter thereof in familiar talke yet I charged him not to presse you to reade it not because I vvould not haue you to reade it for that is my chiefe desire but remembring your discrete purpose not to take in hand the reading of anie nevv vvorke vntill you had fully satisfyed yourselfe vvith the bookes of ancient Authours which if you measure by the profitt you haue taken by them surely you haue alreadie accomplished your taske but if by affection then you vvill neuer bring your sayd purpose to a perfect ende Wherefore I vvas afrayed that seing the excellent vvorkes of other men could not allure you to their reading you vvould neuer be brought to condescende vvillingly to the reading of my trifles and surely you vvould neuer haue donne it but that your loue tovvards me droue you more thereto then the vvorth of the thing itselfe Therefore I yeelde you exceeding thankes for reading so diligently ouer my Vtopia I meane because you haue for my sake bestovved so much labour And no lesse thankes truly do I giue you for that my vvorke hath pleased you for no lesse do I attribute this to your loue because I see you rather haue testifyed vvhat your loue tovvards me did suggest then the authoritie of a Censor Hovvsoeuer the matter is I cannot expresse hovv much I ioye that you haue east your vvhole account in liking my doings For I almost persvvade myself all those things to be true which you speake thereof knovving you to be most farre from all dissembling and my self more meane then that you should neede to flatter me and more deare to you then that I should expecte a mocke frō you Wherefore vvhether that you haue sene the truth vnfainedly I reioyce hartily in your Iudgement or vvhether your affectiō to me hath blinded your iudgement I am for all that no lesse delighted in your loue and truly vehement and extraordinarie great must that loue be vvhich could bereaue Tunstall of his iudgement And in another letter he sayth You deale very courteously vvith me in that you giue me in your letter such hartie thankes because I haue bene carefull to defende the causes of your friendes amplifying the small good turne I haue done you therein by your great bountie but you deale somevvhat too fearefully in regarde of the loue vvhich is betvveene vs if you imagine that you are indebted vnto me for anie thing I haue donne and do not rather challenge it of right to be due vnto you c. The Amber vvhich you sent me being a precious sepulcher of flyes vvas for manie respects most vvellcome vnto me for the matter thereof may be compared in coulour and brightnesse to anie precious stone and the forme is more excellent because it representeth the figure of a a hart as it vvere the hieroglificke of our loue vvhich I interprete your meaning is that betvveene vs it vvill neuer fly avvay and yet be alvvaies vvithout corruption because I see the fly vvhich hathvvings like Cupide the sonne of Venus and is as fickle as he so shutt vp here and inclosed in this glevvie matter of Amber as it cannot flye avvay and so embalmed and preserued therevvith as it cannot perish I am not so much as once troubled that I cannot sende you the like guift againe for I knovve you do not expect anie enterchange of tokens and besides I am vvilling still to be in your debt yet this troubleth me somevvhat that my estate and condition is so meane that I am neuer able to shevv myself vvorthie of all and singuler your friendshipp VVherefore though I cannot giue testimonie myselfe herein before other men yet must be satisfyed vvith mine owne inward testimonie of minde and your gentle acceptance He dedicated one of his bookes vnto him saying in this wise When I considered to vvich of all my friends I should dedicate these my Collections out of manie Authors I thought you most fitt for the same in respect of the familiar conuersation vvhich of long
time hath bene betvveene vs as also in respect of the sinceritie of your minde because you vvould be alvvaies readie to take thankefully vvhatsoeuer in this vvorke should seeme gratefull vnto you and whatsoeuer should be barren therein you vvould make a courteous construction thereof whatsoeuer might be vnpleasing you vvould be vvilling to pardon I vvould to God I had as much vvitt and learning as I am not altogeather destitute of memorie As for Bishopp Tunstall he was a learned man and wrote a singuler booke of the reall presēce And although during king Henrie's raigne he went with the sway of the time for who almost did otherwise to the great griefe of Sir THOMAS MORE yet liuing to the time of Q. Elizabeth whose Godfather he was when she berayed the fonte in his olde age seing her take strange courses against the Church he came from Durham and stoutely admonished her not to change religiō which if she presumed to doe he threatned her to leese Gods blessing and his She nothing pleased with his threates made him be cast into prison as most of the Bishops were where he made a glorious ende of a Confessour and satisfyed for his former crime of Schisme contracted in the time of king Henrie's raigne Sir THOMAS MORE 's friendshipp with the glorious Bishop of Rochester was neither short nor small but had long continued and ended not with their famous martyrdomes See how good Bishop Fisher writeth vnto him Lett I pray you our Cambridge men haue some hope in you to be fauoured by the king's Maiestie that our schollars may be stirred vp to learning by the countenance of so vvorthie a prince VVe haue fevv friends in the Court vvich can or vvill commende our causes to his royall Maiestie and amongst all vve accounte you the chiefe vvho haue alvvaies fauoured vs greatly euen vvhen you vvere in a meaner place and novv also shevv vvhat you can doe being mised to the honour of knighthood and in such great fauour vvith our prince of vvhich vve greately reioyce and also doe congratulate your happinesse Giue furtherance to this youth vvho is both a good schollar in Diuinitie and also a sufficient preacher to the people For he hath hope in your fauour that you can procure him greate furtherance and that my commendations vvill helpe him to your fauour To this Sir THOMAS MORE answereth thus This Priest Reuerend Father vvhome you vvrite to be in possibilitie of a Bishopricke if he might haue some vvorthie suiter to speake for him to the king I imagine that I haue so preuayled that his Maiestie vvill be no hindrance thereto c. Yf I haue anie fauour vvith the king vvhich truly is but litle but vvhatsoeuer I haue I vvill employ all I can to the seruice of your Fatherhood and your schollars to vvhome I yeelde perpetuall thankes for their deare affections tovvards me often testifyed by their louing letters and my house shall be open to them as though it vvere their ovvne Farevvell vvorthie and most courteous prelate and see you loue me as you haue donne His loue and friendshipp with yong Poole afterwards a famous Cardinal may be seene by their letters he maketh mention of him with great praise in a letter he wrote to his welbeloued daughter Margaret Rooper in this wise I cannot expresse in vvriting nor scarcely can conceyue it by thought hovv gratefull to me your most eloquent letters deare daughter Margarett are Whilst I vvas reading them there happened to be vvith me Reinald Poole that most noble youth not so noble by birth as he is singularly learned and excellently endevved vvith all kinde of vertue to him your letter seemed as a miracle yea before he vnderstoode hovv neare you were besett with the shortenesse of time and the molestation of your vveake infirmitie hauing notvvithstanding sent me so long a letter I could scarce make him belieue but that you had some helpe from your Maister vntill I tolde him seriously that you had not only neuer a maister in your house but also neuer another man that needed not your helpe rather in vvriting anie thing then you needed his And in another to Doctour Clement a most famous phisitian and one that was brought vp in Sir THOMAS his owne house he sayth thus I thanke you my deare Clement for that I finde you so carefull of my health and my childrens so that you prescribe in your absence vvhat meates are to be auoided by vs. And you my friend Poole I render double thankes both because you haue vouchsafed to sende vs in vvriting the counsell of so great a phisitian and besides haue procured the same for vs from your mother a most excellent and noble matrone and vvorthie of so great a sonne so as you do not seeme to be more liberall of your counsell then in bestovving vpon vs the thing itselfe vvhich you counsell vs vnto VVherefore I loue and praise you both for your bountie and fidelitie And of Sir THOMAS MORE 's friendship Cardinal Poole boasteth much after his martyrdome in his excellent booke De vnitate Ecclesia saying yf you thinke that I haue giuen scope to my sorrowe because they were my best beloued friends that were putt to death meaning Sir THOMAS MORE and Bishop Fisher I do both acknowledge and professe it to be true most willingly that they both were deare vnto me aboue all others For how can I dissemble this seing that I doe reioyce more of their loue towards me then if I should boaste that I had gotten the dearest familiaritie withall the princes of Christendome His frienshipp also with Doctour Lea afterwards the worthie Archbishopp of Yorke was not small nor fayned although he had written an excellent booke against Erasmus his Annotations vpon the new Testament Erasmus being then Sir THOMAS his intire friend and as it were the one halfe of his owne hart For Sir THOMAS writeth thus vnto him Good Lea that you request of me not to suffer my loue to be diminished tovvards you trust me good Lea it shall not though of myselfe I incline rather to that parte that is oppugned And as I could vvish that this Cittie vvere freed from your siege so vvill I alvvaies loue you and be glad that you do so much esteeme of my loue He speaketh also of Lupset a singular learned man of that time in an epistle to Erasmus Our friend Lupsett readeth with great applause in both toungs at Oxford hauing a great auditorie for he succeedeth my Iohn Clement in that charge What familiaritie there was betwixt him and Doctour Collett Grocine Linacre and Lillie all singuler men we haue spoken of heretofore VVilliam Montioy a man of great learning and VVilliam Lattimer not Hugh the heretike that was burnt but another most famous for vertue and good letters were his verie great acquaintance as also Iohn Croke that read Greeke first at Lipsia in Germanie and was after King Henrie's Greek maister
which though king Henrie did not very well like of because it was disgustfull to his passionate lust yet the manner of Sir THOMAS his discourse and collection was so wisely tempered by his discreete communication that he tooke them at that present in good parte and often had conference of them againe By which manner of Sir THOMAS his counsell and sincere carriage one may easily gather what vnspotted conscience this vpright man had who for no hope of gaine or anie feare of disgrace would once swarue from the true dictamen of his Conscience and if the rest of king Henrie's counsell had bene as backward to hinder this beginning of dissolution as Sir THOMAS was no alteration of religion had by all likelyhood happened in England for from this onlie spring of K. Henrie's intemperance proceeded all the succeeding calamities which haue daily increased yet haue not anie hope of amendement All which change Sir THOMAS MORE either like a very wise man foresawe long before or rather like a prophete prophecied thereof to my vncle Rooper who on a time of a certaine ioy beganne to commende to his father-in-lawe the happie estate of this realme that had so Catholike and zealous a prince that no heretike durst shew his face so learned and vertuous a Cleargie so graue and sounde a Nobilitie such louing and obedient subiects all agreing togeather in one faith and dutiefulnesse as though they had cor vnum animam vnam but one hart and one soule Sir THOMAS thus replyed againe Truth it is indeede sonne Rooper as you say and going through all estates with his commēdations of them he went farre beyond my vncle and yet sonne quoth he I pray God that some of vs as high as wee seeme to sitt now vpon the mountaines treading heretikes vnder our feete like antes doe not liue the day that we gladly would wish to be in league with them to suffer them to haue their churches quietly to themselues so that they would he content to lett vs haue ours peaceably to our selues VVhen mine vncle Rooper had tolde him manie reasons why he had no cause to say so well sayd he I pray God some of vs liue not till that day and yet shewed he noe reason for all these his speaches whereat my vncle sayd in a choller By my troath Sir it is very desperately spoken I cry God mercie saith my vncle I vsed vnto him that very word By which speach Sir THOMAS perceauing him to be somewhat angrie sayd merrily well sonne Rooper it shall not be so it shall not be so But yet himself founde the predictiō too true for he liued vntil the fiueteenth yeare of Q. Elizabeth's raigne when he saw religion turned topsie turuie and no hope of anie amendement This spiritt of prophecie no doubt was a signe of Gods loue vnto Sir THOMAS being so deare in his sight that he would make him partaker of some parte of his secretts but that which he wrought in the conuersion of this his sonne in lawe was not a signe only but an euident demonstratiō of God's great fauour vnto him For when Mr. VVilliam Rooper was a yong man he vsed austeritie to himselfe more then discretion afforded and by this meanes he grew wearie of the Catholike fasts and religious discipline and hearing of a new and easie way to heauen which the preachers of nouelties did promise to their followers he beganne to reade diligently the bookes of heresies which came ouer and were spread in euerie place of England in so much that being wearie of Auricular Confession fasting the lent and vigiles he grew vehement in his new opinions and zealous in breaking of them to others so as that he would be alwaies talking what a readie way to heauen was now found out no bodie needing to sue to Saints or mens prayers but Gods eare was open still to heare and his mercie readie to forgiue anie sinner whatsoeuer when he shall call to him by fayth which was only necessarie to saluation and hauing that only which he assured himself of he needed not doubt but that he was an elect and saued soule so that it was impossible for him to sinne or fall out of God's fauour Of this dangerous poison of securitie he hauing druncke a full draught he came on a time to Sir THOMAS to request him because he was highly in the king's fauour that he would gett him a licence to preache what the spiritt had taught him for he was assured that God had sent him to instruct the world not knowing god wote anie reason of this his mission but only his priuate spirit to whome Sir THOMAS in a smiling manner replyed Is it not sufficient sonne Rooper that we that are your friēds should knowe that you are a foole but that you would haue your follie proclamed to the world After this he often disputed with him about matters of religion yet neuer could he bring him to hearken to anie reason euerie day seeming more obstinate then other vntill at length he sayd in sober sadnesse I see sonne noe disputation will doe thee good henceforth therefore I will dispute with thee no more only will I pray for thee that God will be so fauourable as to touch thy hart and so committing him to God they parted And he earnestly powred out his deuotions before the Diuine mercie for that intent And beholde my vncle not long after being inspired with the light of grace beganne to detest his heresies and as another S. Austin was wholy conuerted so that euer after he was not only a perfect Catholike but liued and dyed a stoute and valiant Champion thereof whose almes in charitable vses was so great that it is sayd that he bestowed euerie yeare to the value of fiue hūdred pounds especially in his latter daies in which he enioyed an office of great gayne and commoditie and after his death I haue heard it reported by thē that were seruants in his house that whilst his bodie lay vnburied for three or foure daies there was heard once a day for the space of a quarter of an hower the sweetest musike that could be imagined not of anie voices of men but angelicall harmonie as a token how gratious that soule was to Almightie God and to the quires of Angells Now this was a more speciall fauour which God grāted to Sir THOMAS his deuout prayers then the raysing of a dead man to life by how much more the death of the soule is of more danger then the death of the bodie yet it is certaine also that this glorious man begged also corporall life for some of his deare friends On a time his daughter Margaret wife to this William Rooper fell sicke of the sweating sickenesse of which manie dyed at that time who lying in so great extremitie of the disease that by no inuentions nor deuises that anie cunning phisiciā could vse at that time hauing cōtinually about her most
precisely the king's Supremacie or plainely to deny it Here may we see that those verie men which seemed to crye before vnto him Osanna benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini say here tolle tolle crucifige eum this is the ficklenesse of the worldlie men But to this as appeareth by the examinations sett out at the ende of his English Workes they could neuer bring him because he was loath to aggrauate the king's displeasure against himselfe saying only that the Statute was like a two-edged sworde if he should speake against it he should procure the death of his bodie and if he should cōsent vnto it he should purchase the death of his soule 6. After all these examinations came Mr. Rich afterwards made the Lo Rich for his good seruice donne in this point then newly created the king's Sollicitour Sr. Richard Southvvell and one Mr. Palmer Mr. Secretarie's man were sent by the king to take away all his bookes Mr. Rich pretending to talke friendly with Sit THOMAS sayd thus vnto him as it proued after of sett purpose For as much as it is well knowen Mr. More that you are a man both wise well learned in the lawes of this realme in all other studies I pray you Sir lett me be so bolde as of good will to putt vnto you this Case Admitt there were an act of Parlement made that all the realme should take me for king would not you Mr. More take me for king Yes Sir said Sir THOMAS that I would I putt the Case further sayd Mr. Rich that there were an act of Parlement that all the realme should take me for Pope would not you then take me for Pope For answer sayd Sir THOMAS to your first Case the Parlement may well Mr. Rich meddle with the state of Temporall princes but to make answer to your other Case suppose the Parlement should make a lawe that God should not be God would you then Mr. Rich say that God should not be God No Sir sayd he that would I not For no Parlement can make such a lawe No more reported he that Sir THOMAS should say but indeede he made no such inference as he auouched after to Mr. Rich his face could the Parlement make the king supreame head of the Church and vpon this only reporte of Mr. Rich Sir THOMAS was shortly after indited of high treason vpon the new Statute of Supremacie At this time Mr. Lieutenant reported that Mr. Rich had so vile a smell about him that he could scarce endure him which Sir THOMAS also felt 7. He had a little before this begunne a diuine treatise of the passion of Christ but when he came to expounde those wordes of the Ghospell And they layde hands vpon him and held him these gentlemen tooke from him all his bookes Inke and paper so that he could write no more Which being donne he applyed himselfe wholy to meditation keeping his chamber windowes fast shutt and very darks the occasion whereof Mr. Lieutenant asking him he answered when all the wares are gone the shoppe windowes are to be shutt vp Yet still by stealth he would gett little peeces of paper in which he would write diuerse letters with a coale of which my father left me one which was to his wife which I accounte as a precious Iewell afterwards drawen ouer by my grandfathers sonne with inke 8. What respect Sir THOMAS had not to displease the king in anie of his deedes or answers may be seene by his discreete behauiour in all his proceedings For first in his bookes he neuer handled exactly the Popes Supremacie though vrgent occasion were giuen him by the bookes which he tooke in hand to confute secondly whatsoeuer writing he had touching that Controuersie he either made them away or burnt them before his troubles as also a booke which the Bishopp of Bath had written of that matter thirdly he would neuer take vpon him to aduise any man in that point though much vrged thereto by letters especially of Doctour Willson his fellow prisoner in the Tower knowing himself being a lay man not to be bound to perswade a Clergie man much lesse a Doctour of Diuinitie Fourthly when he was brought from the Tower to Westminster to answer his Inditement therevpon arraigned at the King's-Bench-barre where he had often asked his father's blessing he openly tolde the Iudges that he would haue a bidden in law and demurred vpon the Inditement but that he should haue bene driuen thereby to confesse of himselfe that he had denyed the kings Supremacie which he protested he neuer had donne And indeede the principall faulte there Layde to his charge was that he maliciously traiterously and Diabolically would not vtter his minde of that Oath Whereto Sir THOMAS pleaded not guiltie reserued to himselfe aduantage to be taken of the bodie of the matter after verdict to auoyde that Inditemēt adding moreouer that if only those odious tearmes were taken out he saw nothing that could charge him of anie Treason THE TENTH CHAPTER THE ARRAIGNEMENT condemnation of Sir THOMAS MORE 1. Sir Thomas Mores arraignement at the kings-benche 2. His vvorthy resolute and discreet ansvver to his inditement 3. Maister Riche his false oath against Sir Thomas cleerly reiected 4. The Iurours verdict excepted against by Sir Thomas vvith a noble confession of ecclesiasticall supremacy 5. Sentence of condemnation pronounced against Sir Thomas 6. He deliuereth fully plainly his iudgemēt touching the act and oath supremacy 1. AFter that the king had endeauoured by all meanes possible to gett Sir THOMAS his consent vnto his lawes knowing that his example would moue manie being so eminent for wisedome and rare vertues and could by no meanes obtaine his desire he commaunded him to be called to his Arraignemēt at the kings-bench barre hauing bene a prisoner in the Tower somewhat more then a twelue-moneth for he was Committed about midde-Aprill and this happened the seauenth of May 1535. the yeare following He went thither leaning on his staffe because he had bene much weakened by his imprisonment his countenance chearefull and constant his Iudges were Andley the Lo Chancellour Fitz Iames the Lo Chiefe Iustice Sir Iohn Baldvvin Sir Richard Leister Sir Iohn Port Sir Iohn Spilman Sir Walter Luke Sir Antonie Fitzherbert where the king's Attornye reading a long odious Inditement contayning all the crimes that could be layd against anie notorious malefactour so long as Sir THOMAS professed he could scarce remember the third parte that was obiected against him but the speciall faulte was that of the refusall of the oath as is before spoken for proofe whereof his double examination in the tower was alleaged the first before Cromevvell Thomas Beade Iohn Tregunnell c. To whome he professed that he had giuen ouer to thinke of titles either of Popes or Princes although all the whole world should be giuen him being fully determined only to serue God the
Apelles for his excellēt workemanshipp therein But the booke that carrieth the price of all his other Latin bookes of wittie inuention is his Vtopia he doth in it most liuely and pleasantly painte forth such an exquisite plattforme patience and example of a singular good Common-wealth as to the same neither the Lacedaemonians nor the Athenians nor yet the best of all other that of the Romans is comparable full prettily and probably deuising the sayd Countrie to be one of the Countries of the New-found Lands declared to him in Antvverpe by Hythlodius a Portingall and one of the sea-companions of Americus Vesputius that first sought out and found those lands such an excellent and absolute an estate of a Commō Wealth that sauing the people were vn-Christened might seeme to passe anie estate and Common wealth I will not say of the olde Nations by me before mentioned but euen of anie other in our time Manie great learned men as Budeus Ioannes Paludanus vpon a feruent zeale wished that some excellent Diuines might be sent thither to preache Christ's Gospell yea there were here amongst vs at home sundrie good men learned Diuines very desirous to take the voyage to bring the people to the fayth of Christ whose manners they did so well like And this sayd iollie inuention of Sir THOMAS MORE 's seemed to beare a good countenance of truth not only for the creditt Sir THOMAS was of in the world but also for that about the same time manie strange and vnknowne nations and Countries were discouered such as our forefathers neuer knew especially by the wonderfull nauigation of the shippe called Victoria that sayled the world round about whereby it was foūd that shipps sayle bottome to bottome that there be Antipodes which thing Lactantius and others doe flattely denye laughing thē to scorne that so did write Againe it is found that vnder the Zodiake where Aristotle and others say that for the immoderate excessiue heate there is no habitation is the most temperate and pleasant dwelling and the most fruitfull countrie in the world These and other considerations caused manie wise and learned men nothing lesse to mistrust then that this had bene nothing but an Inuentiue drift of Sir THOMAS MORE 's owne imagination for they tooke it for a verie sure true storie wherein they were deceaued by Sir THOMAS as too wittie and as well learned as they were In this booke amongst other things he hath a very goodlie processe how there might be fewer theeues in England and a maruelous opinable probleme of sheepe that whereas men were wont to eate the sheepe as they doe in other countries now contrariewise sheepe in England pittiefully doe deuowre men women and children houses yea townes withall Like a most thankefull man he maketh honourable mention of Cardinall Morton Archbishop of Canterburie and Lo Chancellour of England in whose house as we haue sayd himselfe was in his tender youth brought vpp albeit it be by the dissembled name of the sayd Hythlodius whome he imagineth to haue bene in England and to haue bene acquainted with the sayd Cardinall And as this booke in his kinde is singular and excellent contayning and describing a Common wealth farre passing the Common-wealthes deuised and vsed by Lycurgus Solon Numa Plato and diuerse others So wrote he in-another kinde sorte a booke against Luther no lesse singular and excellent King Henry the Eight had written a notable and learned booke against Luther's booke De Captiuitate Babylonica most euidently and mightily refuting his vile and shamefull heresies against the Catholike Fayth and Christ's holie Sacraments which did so grieue Luther to the hart that hauing no good substantiall matter to helpe himselfe withall he fell to scoffing and sawcie ieasting at the king's booke in his answer for the same vsing nothing throughout the sayd Answer but the figure of Rhetorike called savvce-malepert and played the very varlett with the king To whome Sir THOMAS MORE made reply and doth so discipher and lay open his wily wrested handling of the Sacred Scripture his monstrous opinions and maniefolde contradictions that neither he nor anie of his generation durst euer after putt penne to paper to encounter and reioyne to his reply in which besides the deepe and profound debating of the matter itselfe he so dresseth Luther with his owne scoffing and ieasting rhetoricke as he worthily deserued But because this kinde of writing albeit a meete Couer for such a Cuppe and verie necessarie to represse beate him with his owne follie according to the Scripture Responde stulto secundùm stultitiam eius seemed not agreable and correspondent to his grauitie and dignitie the booke was sett forth vnder the name of one Gulielmus Rosseus only suppressing his owne name He wrote also and printed another proper and wittie treatise against a certaine Epistle of Iohn Pomeran one of Luther's stādard-bearers in Germanie And after he was shutt vp in the Tower he wrote a certaine expositiō in Latine vpon the Passion of Christ not yet printed which was not perfited and is so plainely and exquisitely trāslated into English by his neece Mrs Bassett that it may seeme originally to haue bene penned in English by Sir THOMAS MORE himselfe Some other things he wrote also in Latine which we pretermitt and now we will somewhat talke of his English Workes which all besides the life of Iohn Picus Earle of Mirandula the foresayd life of king Richard the Third and some other prophane things concerne matters of religion for the most parte The first booke of this sorte was his Dialogues made by him when he was Chancellour of the Dutchie of Lancaster which bookes occasioned him afterwards as according to the olde prouerbe One businesse begetteth another to write diuerse other things For whereas he had amongst manie other matters touched and reproued William Tindall's adulterate and vitious translation of the New Testament Tindall being not able to beare to see his new religion and his owne doings withall to haue so fowle an ouerthrowe as Sir THOMAS MORE gaue him after great deliberation with his Euangelicall bretheren tooke in hand to answer some parte of his dialogues especially touching his aforesayd corrupt Translation but what small glorie he wanne thereby is easie to be seene of euerie man that with indifferent affection will vouchsafe to reade Sir THOMAS MORE 's reply whereof we shall giue you a smal taste but first we will note vnto you the integritie sinceritie and vprightnesse of the good and gracious nature and disposition of the sayd Sir THOMAS MORE in his writing not only against Tindall but generally against all other Protestants First then it is to be considered in him that he doth not as manie other writers doe against their aduersaries all Protestants doe against him other Catholikes wreathe and wreste their wordes to the worst and make their reasons more feeble and weake then they are but