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A19569	A triall of our church-forsakers. Or A meditation tending to still the passions of unquiet Brownists, upon Heb.10.25 Wherein is iustified, against them, that the blessed Church of England 1 Is a true Church. 2 Hath a true ministry. 3 Hath a true worship. By Robert Abbot ...	Abbot, Robert, 1588?-1662?	1639 (1639)	STC 60; ESTC S100380	140,135	286

Booke it hath three degrees the Beginning Middle and End of it In the beginning of it there is reading of Psalmes principally to raise up our affections and of other Scriptures both of the Old and New Testament to confirme our judgements in the truth and to helpe us to search whether things heard are so or no. There is confession of our faith that wee may professe it as a briefe rule from Scriptures to try whether we stand in the faith whereto we may referre the truths of faith in the Scriptures And we have Prayers wherein wee are not long at once or with a breath but have distinct and divided salutations praises and Petitions for our selves chiefe members and the Church that we may the better hold out unto the end without distractions All this I am sure none if they understand can justly blame Onely there is one thing worth notice which doth hardly relish to some fewe and can by no meanes be indured by the Brownists and that is the Litany This stickes most because they are more carefull to make objections against it then answers for it that they may have comfort and peace with us Therefore with Christs helpe I shall indeavour two things to shew the reason of the name and how they may satisfie themselves against such scruples as may arise It is called a Litany which is an humble prayer whose use is most for adversity It comes of a word that signifies to supplicate from whence comes suppliant prayers The ancient Churches were full of them as I could shew which usually beganne with Lord have mercy upon us Christ have mercy upon us and why should ours be empty seeing wee would be accounted as good Christians as they There are divers exceptions against ours therefore let us see next how they may satisfie themselvs against them There is no Church that I know but must have a favourable construction of some things and so must ou●s yet in this I see not but that all excepters may be fully satisfied The exceptions that I have yet met with are against the manner of this prayer and against the matter of it Against the manner they say that it is with repetitions of the people and interlocutary passages As for that I finde that in the scriptures God hath commanded publicke prayers that is that Presbyter and people should pray but he hath not commanded any forme or manner to carry their prayers in but onely that it bee done to edification Therfore he hath left that free to the wisdome and judgement of the governours And this we have often experience of that if a continued prayer be but halfe so long some will bee nodding before it bee done whereas if they be kept busie by the matter in hand they are more vigilant But say they he hath given us the Lords prayer all in one length and set Amen in the latter end This is true yet marke he said to his disciples when yee pray say Our Father and Amen too and hee hath not told them in what manner they should say it when they pray together whether one should say the Petitions and the rest Amen or whether all should say the Petitions and Amen too In this he hath left them to edif●cation and us also But it is said that some parts of the Litany are so said that the reader shewes onely what they must pray for and the people make the suite as when they say from such and such a thing good Lord deliver us and this seemes to bee absurd That the people should make it without the minister is not injoyned that the minister doth not intend and make the suite is false except hee bee carelesse and wicked As the people say Amen aloude and the minister saith it too though happly not so loude so the minister intends and saith Good Lord deliver us though the people in turnes exceede in voice Against the matter of this prayer many things are objected few things weighed and nothing proved but evident quarrels There are exceptions against words and phrases and against suites conveyed in them The wordes and phrases are by thy crosse and passion by thy pretious death c. Which some of them out of the le●ity of minde call conjuring some out of worse cal swearing as if none could out sweare the Litany Let them take heede how they blaspheme the piety of Gods servants It was none of Elies goodnesse when hee reproached the prayers of Hannah as if shee were drunke when shee made them Let them apply this to themselves It will not be denied but that Christ brought us a great benefit by all these For what hee did as a publicke person hee did for us and our salvation in one degree or other Now what is this but a praying that all these acts and passions of Christ in their vertue and merit bee applyed to us by Gods love that wee may finde the profit of them But now the suites that wee convey in the words of that good Prayer are troublesome to them both when we sue for things and Persons As for things wee pray against two things which they doe not like against sudden death and against the sinnes of our forefathers As for the first there is a double sudden death sudden in time and sudden for want of preparation God hath said that hee will come before that wee are aware like a thiefe in the night His will bee done wee pray not against that But wee pray that his comming may not be so sudden but that through wisdome given we may set our houses in order and bee as the wise virgines having our lampes and oyle in a readinesse and from such sudden death good Lord deliver us As for the sinnes of our forefathers which being dead are now out of the state of forgivenesse wee pray not that their sinnes bee forgiven them but that they bee not remembred to be punished in us God punisheth to the third and fourth generation and the Psalmist saith Let the iniquitie of his fathers be remembred before the Lord and let not the sinne of his mother be blotted out that their posterity bee cut off and in the generations following their names bee blotted out And because these comminations have conditions of Repentance annexed to them doe not wee well to repent and cry to God remember not the iniquity of forefathers for feare of those sinnes that have gone before us But yet they like not the Persons that we pray for when wee say that God would have mercy upon all men For Christ saith he prayed not for the world but our Church cares not whom they pray for Indeed because wee finde that wee have a Precept pray for all men and an holy practise Let the People praise thee O God let all the People praise thee therefore wee doe as wee are bound in praying for all men

have now done and commend you all to the word of Gods grace which is able to save your soules though no Bownist nor Anabaptist had ever beene hatched Live in peace and the God of peace shall bee with you Give not way to any opinion whereby the unity of spirit and the bond of love may be broken Play the men be strong and of a good courage Have prepared hearts to dye for Christs cause but to bee sticklers in such poore quarrels as can neither bring peace to the Church nor comfort to you at last abhorre Wee must all appeare before the Iudgement seate of God where colours shall doe us no good because we shall be iudged naked where pretences shall doe us no good because the bookes shall bee opened and where no authors or favourers of Sects or Schismes shall shelter us because we must stand before the man Christ Iesus to whom I ever leave you and in whose name ye shall have the prayers of Yours to be used in the service of the Gospel ROBERT ABBOT The Contents of this Meditation is thus summed up In Section 1. The state of Christians and their care to keepe it Section 2. The way to keepe a Christian state is publick communion in assemblies Section 3. The vice of those that forsake publick communion and first of the prophane Section 4. The forsakers of our assemblies that would be accounted holy and first of their name of Iustice Brownists which is due to them Section 5. Of that name they would have Separatists and how unjustly it is expected and assumed by them Section 6. Of the Brownists opinions upon which they forsake our Church and first whether we be a true Church Section 7. Of their first exception against us about the nature of a visible Church Section 8. Of their second exception against us about our enterance into a true Church where of their covenant Section 9. A question by the way because some of them question it about baptizing of Bastards of impenitent Christians Section 10. Of their third exception against us about the head of our Church Christ and the King under him Section 11. Of their fourth exception against us about the members of our Church where is debated of wicked professors comming to the Lords table Section 12. Of their last exception against our Church about the government of it and first of the power of Governement whether in the whole assembly Section 13. Of their exceptions against the persons governing Bishops and the exercise of their goverment in ordination excommunication imposing oathes Section 14. Of their second opinion upon which they separate from us because wee have not a true ministery where of ordeyners titles callings infirmities and maintenance Section 15. Of their last opinion upon which they separate from us because wee have not a true worship where of Ceremonies of order and significant and of stinted prayers Section 16. Of their maine exception in their former argument to witt our common prayer booke where of the order of divine service and their exceptions against kneeling Crosse and responses or answers in Baptisme Section 17. Of the use that is to bee made of all good assemblies to learne consideration and exhortation because the day is approaching which is applied to our foasakers A Postscript GOod Reader there are two texts of scripture whereupon the Brownists do build their frame besides many other in particular questions These thou shalt finde cleared as I judge in conscience in most Sections as thou goest along These are 1 Cor. 6.17 whereupon they ground their separation and Mat. 18.15 16 17 18. 1 Cor. 5. whereupon they ground the new Parish discipline Thou shalt finde these cleared Section 5. and 12. But before thou readest I would intreate thee to correct the errours of the presse printed at the latter end of the booke and then learne with me or learne me A TRIALL OF OVR CHVRCH FORSAKERS OR A meditation to still the passions of unquiet Brownists upon Heb. 10.25 Not forsaking the assembling of our selves together as the manner of some is but exhorting one another and so much the more as yee see the day approaching SECTION I. The estate of Christians and their care to keepe it THe better our estate is the more wee must labour to keepe it A poore man takes no great thought for iron bolts and barres a wooden latch a pin serves his turne and yet hee sleepes securely A rich man whose treasure is great and whose heart is nailed to it hath lockes bolts and barres of strongest assurance Thus must it be with a Christian He is not now in a beggerly estate he is crowned with loving kindnesses and tender mercies unspeakable He hath liberty to enter into heaven hee hath a way made to leade him thither and he hath an able guide for his conduct The holiest is set before him His liberty to enter is purchased by the bloud of Iesus His way thither is Christs flesh consecrated by the fulnesse of the God-head dwelling in him bodily His guide is the high-priest over the house of God Christ the Lord Christ alone purchased this liberty he alone is this way by the marriage of our flesh hee alone is this guide who hath authority over the house of God and cannot bee defeated His liberty is of the surest tenure by purchase with the bloud of the sonne of God His way is of the firmest sooting surest foundation and best making by Christ himself And his guide is truth it selfe one that cannot deceive even our Iesus Christ who is all and in all What therefore should hee now doe Let them get an estate in meanes offered which may present to God this coate o● armes A field of heavenly truth and sincerity the royallest in Gods eies charged with a cleane washed body opened for all the world to looke upon In the midst an heart sprinckled from an ill conscience breathing out by degrees a full assurance of faith And because he is a souldier and many enemies will assault his colours to win them that he may never give them againe let him not only have such christian armes but hold fast the profession of his faith without wavering that he doe not loose his crowne and honour with Christ But Lord how hard is this The Christian is weak and his enemies many mighty It is true therefore let him be strong in the Lord and run to such meanes as God hath appointed who knowes best how to give and how to guard all his graces given And what meanes are they The publike and private communion of Saints mentioned in these words The publicke is not to forsake the assembling of our selves together The private is upon due consideration of our selves to exhort one another These will make the christian keepe his ground not loose his colours not quit the field but overcome in living and bee more then Conquerours in dying