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A90716 A word of prophesy, concerning the Parliament, generall, and the army. With A little of the first Adam. Wherein are divers objections answered, concerning that position of God, being the author of sinne. / By Henry Pinnell. Pinnell, Henry. 1648 (1648) Wing P2280; Thomason E1184_8; ESTC R210114 45,662 97

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aside to speake a word to thar and then re-returne to the examination of your charge 1. For the Supper First I never forbad the use thereof to any untill the coming of Christ Secondly If by the coming of Christ you understand it according to the vulgar sense for his last coming at the end of the world I leave you and every man to your faith therein But Thirdly Why may not the coming of Christ and that untill be come be understood of that coming of Christ in the spirit which he foretold before his departing out of the body 2. As for Baptisme I leave you and others also to the freedome of your faith therein But if you will impose the observation therof and the obedience thereunto upon me as to an Ordinance I must first be satisfied First Whether by Baptisme you understand Poedo-baptism Childish-baptism or the Baptisme of Children If so then where is either your precept or pattern for so doing Or Secondly If you will have Baptisme of water to be restrained and to belong only to those that are adult and of ripe yeares yet then where is your authority from any institution of Christ after his resurrection who had before by his death put an end to foregoing Types and Figures of himselfe Therefore 1. That place Mat. 18.19 will not hold Water nor serve your turne at all in the sense you urge it and would have it brought unto for those words into the Name doe rather exclude then imply in into or with water 2. Nor is it enough that you tell mee of the Apostles practise that they did baptize with water and that after the resurrection and ascension of Christ unlesse you produce a warrant from Christ authorizing them so to doe and commanding them and us by way of injunction to submit unto it as a necessary and binding duty But I say First If you will make the practise of the Apostles your rule in one thing why not in another the ground and authority being equall for both and therefore both alike binding And then why doe you not anoint your sicke with oyle as the Apostles did Ja. 5.14 and as Iames commandeth you Is the use and virtue of anointing lost and doth the efficacy of Baptisme last Will water keepe longer then oyle Againe why doe you not circumcise as Paul did You will say Circumcision is abolished but Baptisme is not Was Iohn any more then a servant as Moses was vvhy then must he abide in the House of God when the Son himself is come I doe not find that Paul did repent for shaking hands with Moses in circumcising Timothy more then he did for saluting Iohn in baptizing some of the Corinthians Yet Secondly I deny not but that the Apostles might have an indulgent dispensation given unto them sutable to the infancy of the Church then as others may have now answerable to the lownesse and weaknesse of the faith of some in these daies whom I leave to stand or fall to their owne Master But if Baptism be enforced as a Law I shall question two things and very much scruple 1. VVhether it be not an adding to the Booke of God to interline and insert the Baptism of Children into the Bible when there is no such thing mentioned by Christ or his Apostles in all the New Testament either by way of Command or Custome 2. VVhether to conclude Baptism of water so consequently to impose it on any from that in Mat. 28.19 be not a part of will worship a making void the command of Christ by mens traditions and a taking away from the Booke of God For whereas Christ there brings up Baptisme to its height fulnesse glory purity and perfection some goe about to empty weaken and make void the sense and scope of that Scripture by applying that to water which Christ expresly attributeth and appropriateth to the Father Himselfe and the Spirit I have not the faith to believe that the Ratiocinations and arguments of men the conclusions inferences and inductions of Reason are sufficient to make any Ordinance in the Church of Christ without an immediate plaine direct M. Denne M. Tomes c. punctuall and divine institution from Christ But enough hath beene said of this by others already Therefore Mr Baker I shall passe from the manner of your carriage and come to examine the matter of your charge You charge 1. You charge me that I should say the first Adam was borne or created blind and this you say is errour heresy and false doctrine Answer First I did say that every man by nature is borne blind in respect of discerning the things of God 1 Cor. 2.14 Secondly I said also That the first Adam in his created state was blind as to the understanding of the Mystery of God in Christ to be revealed unto him or as to the true knowledge of himselfe and the condition he was then in He had the sight of sense he saw his wife the tree and the apple that he did eate but he had not a sight of the imperfection and shortnesse of the present state he was then in to that which he was afterwards to be raised up unto in Christ For 1. If he had knowne the property of the Tree of life which represented Christ he would not have forsaken and rejected it but rather how eaten of the fruit thereof that he might have lived as the Apostle speakes 1 Cor. 2.8 If the Princes of this world had known the Wisedome of God they would not have crucified the Lord Jesus If Adam that was the chiefest and most excellent in knowledge above all other creatures in the world if he had knowne the mystery of Christ in the Tree of life hee would not have beene seduced by the Serpent to seeke his perfection in the forbidden fruit Man that is ignorant of Gods Righteousnesse goeth about to establish his owne Rom. 10.3 2. Why else is not the opening of their eyes affirmed of Adam and Eve till after their eating of the forbidden fruit Gen. 3.7 What coverings had they of the divine nature glory and righteousnesse of God in the day of their Creation and could they see the want thereof before their eyes were opened Let me further illustrate this thing thus A child as soon as it is born is said to be an innocent harmlesse child Phil. 3.6 free from the guilt or commission of any sin is his nature therefore pure perfect holy heavenly and void of all inclinations to sin Again Paul saith of himself that he was blamelesse as touching the righteousnesse of the Law before his conversion had he therefore an adequate righteousnesse every way agreeable and equall to the spirituality and holinesse of the Law Before the Law came he had little or no sin he was lusty and strong in his fleshly confidence he came into no misfortune or danger of his life but when the Law entred his sin abounded his strength weakned his life withered